ddeclue
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Fri Jan-09-09 12:06 PM
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Republicans opposing equal pay for equal work - Buck McKeon (CA-R) leading the opposition! |
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Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 12:31 PM by ddeclue
SCOTUS made a perverse ruling in the last couple of years that unless you filed a discrimination claim within 180 days of the first time it occurred you lost your right to sue over it. It also requires businesses to use BUSINESS reasons only to differentiate pay between a man and a woman.
Congress is now passing a bill (HR12) to prevent companies from retaliating against employees who discuss their salary with their peers and which overturns the SCOTUS ruling.
The Republicans are whining about lawsuits with Buck McKeon leading the opposition instead of just having the grace and decency to just agree and pass it.
Someone needs to run against Buck and through his a** out in 2010...
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Zynx
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Fri Jan-09-09 12:13 PM
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1. I was in favor of a compromise where companies would post what all of their |
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workers make without disclosing names. Basically the following:
"Salary #of positions at that pay" "$35,000 27"
Something like that for all levels so that people understand what they are making relative to the company. I think it would get some people off their asses and make them want to organize.
I would prefer workers were allowed to openly discuss it, but that was a compromise I thought of while debating a right-winger.
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ddeclue
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Fri Jan-09-09 12:34 PM
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2. That would be a worthless compromise. |
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People should be allowed to discuss their salaries with whomever they like - simply as a free speech issue.
Even leaving sex discrimination aside, unless Bob and Joe who work together can discuss their salaries, how will they ever know that one of them has been screwed over?
Forced secrecy is the cloak behind which corporations hide to prevent people from organizing and forcing their employers to pay them fairly regardless of the reason.
I'm not arguing that the company should be forced to publish everyone's salary and make it a matter of public knowledge. I'm arguing that EMPLOYEES should have the freedom to discuss or not discuss their salary if they wish.
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ddeclue
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Fri Jan-09-09 12:35 PM
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3. Tom Price R-GA6 is another neanderthal. |
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Somebody in Atlanta needs to run against this clown.
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merh
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Fri Jan-09-09 12:51 PM
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We have a poster on this board that works as a nurse. She knows that the 2 male nurses make $10 more an hour than the female nurses, many of whom have more experience. I asked why she didn't file an EEOC complaint and she said she would be fired if she did, it is against company policy to discuss salaries. The person that told her that the males make more money would also be fired.
You cannot compromise on this. Companies should not be allowed to make rules which allow them to be protected from the law.
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Zynx
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Fri Jan-09-09 12:56 PM
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8. Free speech really only pertains to political speech, but I still agree. |
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I really don't believe people in their places of work should be able to say whatever they like about anything. For example, I don't think they should be able to go up to their boss and say what a disgusting fat ass they are.
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Fri Jan-09-09 12:46 PM
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4. In state government we have salary grades - |
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like (not really accurate) Grade 56 pay range 26,500 - 29,900. You know your grade, and you know your co-workers' grades and you know what ballpark you are in, but you don't know exactly what anyone makes.
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Fri Jan-09-09 12:54 PM
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7. I currently work in state government and that system seems good to me. |
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I can't see the private sector ever doing it, though.
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Fri Jan-09-09 12:50 PM
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5. Private salaries are part of the "private property" malaise that ruined this nation |
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