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Wed Jan-14-09 05:05 PM
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MSNBC: Obama to end "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" |
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Chris Matthews just reported that.
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:06 PM
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1. Reported or opined? n/t |
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:07 PM
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Matthews is not a journalist. He's an opinionated commentator. He might have just been opining, like you said.
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:52 PM
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17. I also saw a lengthy report on this at CNN... |
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maybe all of us 'complainers' are having an effect.
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Wed Jan-14-09 06:16 PM
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24. This has been Obama's stated position since the very beginning. |
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You would think after a two year campaign, people would know things like that.
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Wed Jan-14-09 06:19 PM
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25. Of course I knew that... |
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I just found it interesting that it was suddenly being promoted as a news story in the mainstream media. They also seemed to indicate this would be happening "soon".
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Wed Jan-14-09 06:28 PM
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27. It's not being promoted, they're responding to questions about it. |
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The press is asking, they're answering, and the press is writing about it.
The only timeframe anybody is committing to at this point is some time this year. It does have to go through Congress, after all.
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Wed Jan-14-09 06:42 PM
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28. And again, I find it encouraging that the press is specifically asking about this... |
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it means that they are responding to issues that their audience is interested in.
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:14 PM
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3. The Obama spokespeople have confirmed it many times. |
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It's part of their platform.
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:23 PM
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4. Chuck Todd on hardball says it could be a mistake..... |
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says he'll get caught up like Clinton did basically trying to appease gay folks? Suggested people will say he needs to concentrate on the economy and not this issue.
Damned if he does, Damned if he doesn't.
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:27 PM
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5. And, I don't like chuck todd so |
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his opinion means less than zero to me. :)
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:50 PM
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14. Chuckie T does not do politics well, numbers maybe |
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Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 05:51 PM by Jennicut
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:53 PM
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18. I can't believe they picked him to be their WH correspondent |
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Wed Jan-14-09 06:07 PM
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:57 PM
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20. screw chuck todd. his opinions turn out to be wrong most of the time anyway. nt |
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Wed Jan-14-09 06:25 PM
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26. Obama refuses to get caught up in that culture war bullshit |
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I don't think he'll trip up on that like Clinton did. Now, next stop: DOMA!
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:31 PM
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:38 PM
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7. good luck...the reactionary jackass Ike Skelton heads the House Armed Services committee |
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and he's an odious homophobe.
it seems that all the crappy "Dems" get the good committee chairmanships...I wonder why?
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:40 PM
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8. What does that even mean? |
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Are gays going back to being more directly and openly hunted down in the military? Or is he going to do what Clinton should've done 16 years ago: issue a presidential directive to end orientation discrimination in the armed services?
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:43 PM
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9. One would hope that a directive would be issued. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 05:43 PM by Rockholm
On edit: bad spelling.
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:47 PM
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11. Technically you can't issue a directive to change the UCMJ. |
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Nor can you undo an act of congress with a directive. It has to go through the same process as any other bill.
And what do you think it means? "More directly and openly hunted down"? Like Obama's going to go backwards? :eyes:
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:48 PM
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12. Well since you asked. |
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:50 PM
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15. That's a very lovely rock you've been living under. :-) nt |
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:51 PM
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It says GLBT on top of it. nuff said.
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:56 PM
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Is Bush taking his "signing statement" pen with him?? Can we take up a collection and get one for Obama?
:dilemma:
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Wed Jan-14-09 06:13 PM
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23. Nothing to put a statement on--DADT is established US law. |
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As such, it needs to be repealed through the Congress.
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:45 PM
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10. And now it's being reported it's being put on hold. |
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:50 PM
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13. Actually no, that's just CNN trying to create a story where there isn't one. |
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It's the same thing that Conyers said a week or two ago that was completely distorted by Politico, et al: that the economy is the highest priority, well ahead of anything as non-critical as DADT. That doesn't equate to "it's on hold" or, as Politico fantasized, that it was being put off until after 2010.
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Wed Jan-14-09 05:58 PM
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21. Not at all.Read the article again... |
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During the presidential campaign, Obama said he would work to end the policy, but because it is dictated by federal law, he can not ended it unilaterally.
Congress must pass legislation overturning the policy, which was put into place at the beginning of the Clinton administration. Former President Bill Clinton tried to overturn the "don't ask, don't tell" policy when he took office in 1993, but he was strenuously opposed by the military leadership.
In the last Congress, a bill was introduced in the House by Rep. Martin Meehan, D-Massachusetts, that would have implemented "a policy of nondiscrimination on the basis of sexual orientation."
The bill had 149 co-sponsors, but it never came up for a full vote in the House. It has yet to be re-introduced in the new Congress, which began last week.
"The key here is to get bills that pass the House and the Senate, that we can get to President-elect Obama to sign, and I think that we can do that, certainly, the first year of the administration," one of the co-sponsors, Democratic Rep. Ellen Tauscher of California, told CNN in November.
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