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Sun Jan-18-09 03:26 PM
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Back to say........If you don't already feel and see the change, then you are not paying attention! |
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Sun Jan-18-09 03:29 PM
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1. Which change is your favorite? nt |
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Sun Jan-18-09 03:44 PM
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5. Attitude and approach thus far! |
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Sun Jan-18-09 03:46 PM
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6. With a few exceptions (such as Garth Brooks) I agree. nt |
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:35 PM
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:05 PM
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24. Did you know that Brooks created and distributed country western 'music'? |
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Still think that he is a "good guy"?
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:26 PM
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35. WTF is wrong with country-western music? |
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So I guess you hate Willie Nelson too?
What a bunch of classist BS.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:52 PM
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Willie Nelson has engaged in some highly inappropriate behavior, such as creating and distributing country music.
What a bunch of classist BS.
Which class am I discriminating against?
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Sun Jan-18-09 06:43 PM
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45. Broken. Fucking. Record. |
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You keep spewing "...has engaged in some highly inappropriate behavior, such as creating and distributing country music." instead of answering why "creating and distributing country music" is "highly inappropriate behavior."
You are sounding like an asshole who thinks "country music = dumb hick music", which is why I called you classist.
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Sun Jan-18-09 07:03 PM
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48. "instead of answering why" - You're right, I never answered your question. |
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Creating and distributing country music is offensive and inappropriate behavior because country music causes suffering and woe for all who hear it. Some people think that they like it, but then they verbally lash out at those around them, calling people names. Its really sad.
dumb hick music
I never considered 'dumb hick' to be a class, but I guess that it could be in some sense of the word. Are there other 'hick' classes I should be aware of?
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Sun Jan-18-09 06:33 PM
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42. I was an avid fan of Garth |
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in the 90's...
I know a lot about who he is... and what I do know is that he is a good man with a great heart..... and a passionate performer.
and I am a classically trained vocal soloist... and appreciate most forms of music...
31 flavors and all that.
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Sun Jan-18-09 06:45 PM
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46. "and I am a classically trained vocal soloist..." |
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Have you looked into getting your money back?
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Sun Jan-18-09 06:49 PM
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Sun Jan-18-09 07:09 PM
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"I was an avid fan of Garth" + "and I am a classically trained vocal soloist..." = You were hoodwinked.
I am noticing the word, 'was' in your sentence, "I was an avid fan of Garth". Perhaps you were a fan, but then after your training, you realized your mistake. If this is the case, then money well spent!
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Sun Jan-18-09 08:27 PM
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50. Well, that makes two of us who were hoodwinked, then. nt |
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:38 PM
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11. WTF are you talking about... |
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Garth I suspect is a liberal. One of his hits back in the 90's was "We Shall Be Free," which even goes so far as supporting gay rights. I don't see how anyone could have a problem with Obama having him as part of the celebration. He is a hell of a performer.
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:53 PM
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16. Brooks creates and distributes country western 'music'. |
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I personally find that sort of behavior to be offensive.
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:55 PM
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LOL, not exactly. More like pop/rock/country. His music is more pop than country.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:13 PM
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29. You're fooling yourself, Brooks is country, but I will compromise with |
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saying that Brooks is pop country. That seems to be a fair description of the diseased droppings he refers to as music.
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Sun Jan-18-09 08:31 PM
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51. Well, sheesh, don't listen then..... nt |
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Sun Jan-18-09 03:29 PM
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Yes it is! A new beginning!
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Sun Jan-18-09 03:32 PM
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3. I can't stop smiling! This is a great time to be alive! |
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Sun Jan-18-09 03:33 PM
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4. Close Gitmo! Fund ESC research! Fund alternative energy research! nt |
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Sun Jan-18-09 03:46 PM
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7. Support marriage equality!!! nt |
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:20 PM
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9. That much is a given adding here: this is more than a mere changing of the gaurd... |
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:42 PM
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:40 PM
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12. Yup, black clouds are definitely parting! |
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:45 PM
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14. Calm down, it's just a concert. |
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Have you ever been to a concert before?
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:50 PM
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15. I think you're missing the OP's point. |
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I don't think it's just about a concert.
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:54 PM
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17. So "change" is a bunch of performers on the stage whoring themselves out for publicity? |
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Change is single-payer health care. Change is marriage rights for gay couples. Change is allowing embryonic stem cell research.
How much money was spent on this concert? Couldn't this money have been put to better use? Is this really "change you can believe in"?
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:00 PM
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:02 PM
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21. Actually, I'm just fine. |
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Hundreds of people are struggling to put food on the table, yet we should jump for joy when a bunch of celebrities show up for a concert?
"Change" to me is not one-upping George W Bush in the celebration department. Barack Obama is better than that.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:05 PM
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23. You're not fine, you're miserable |
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But you can't ruin it for the rest of us, so why keep trying?
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:07 PM
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26. Actually, I'm just fine. |
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Edited on Sun Jan-18-09 05:09 PM by EconomicLiberal
Do you have anything constructive to offer, or are you just going to call people names?
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:11 PM
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28. Here's something constructive |
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Watch the wonderful concert we just saw - it's on again at 7:00.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:23 PM
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33. It's not how I would have chosen to celebrate. |
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But I'm not reducing this to an either/or thing. Those hungry people would still be hungry whether there were a thousand celebrities performing, or just one juggler. This celebration isn't the reason they're hungry, and canceling it wouldn't be a cure for that hunger either.
Symbolism plays a huge part in our lives, from Coke signs to the crucifix. This celebration is symbolic to millions as a sign of change, of moving on to better times (as all these things are). To you (and myself, for the most part) it's symbolic of wasted money. And we're both right.
While your point is certainly one worthy of listening to (being dirt poor myself), the issue of hunger and poverty doesn't hinge on the Inauguration.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:04 PM
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22. Welcome to my ignore list. Every single person who performed |
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on that stage today has done more to help others than you most likely ever will.
EconomicLiberal my ass! Thank God during DU Amnesty you can change your name! I'd suggest "IHateEverythingButHaveNotOneFuckingAnswer"
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Sun Jan-18-09 06:42 PM
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:18 PM
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31. yeah..it's all those whores that attended.. |
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By the way...here are some more one-liners you might find useful...
Change we can make believe/not believe/ in! don't see any f*cking change except for the worst! Not the change I voted for Not change, this is creeping conservatism Change to the new right Get behind the DLC and march along like good little soldier Obama is a centrist perpetuating DLC Corporate crap Obama made clear promises made that are now being broken. Obama is Certainly not what he represented to us in the primaries. Obama is the third Clinton term Obama is a DLC stooge Obama is ingnoring progressives that are the only reason he was elected. Obama is going to face a severe backlash "from the population that elected him" Obama is a Trojan Horse. He is in disguise to bring the DLC Centrists back in power. Obama is so blind he is appointing a nazi Obama has a seat for everyone at the table except those who elected him. I want my money/vote back.
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Sun Jan-18-09 06:37 PM
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43. Change is competence and the desire to put our interests first. |
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Aside from that, your characterizations of these patriotic performers and the wonderful gift they brought to everyone who watched this FREE concert shows what a truly disgusting character you possess.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:16 PM
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30. Have you ever been to D.C. before |
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for an inauguration? None so blind and those who will not see.
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Sun Jan-18-09 04:59 PM
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19. I'm paying attention, I just don't feel it. |
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I know things are already in motion, and I know things will get better in many, many ways over the next 4-8 years. But emotionally I'm just not feeling much of anything right now (politically speaking, that is). I feel like a huge battle has been one, but that there's still so many more that are just starting. We've spent 20 of the last 28 years under full on Republican rule, and I'm all tuckered out for a month or two.
I am very excited for people like yourself, who I know have been with Obama all along. I'm excited for Democrats in general, and hope we do something with the opportunity.
I haven't started any threads being a downer, and I haven't really even said much about it in any threads, pretty much keeping it to myself. But I had to chime in and say that it has nothing to do with not paying attention.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:06 PM
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Sound like you are from the "I'll wait and see" part of the party.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:26 PM
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34. I'm from the "I'll wait and see" part of the human race. |
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:08 PM
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27. Don't Worry---There's No Shortage Of Downer Posts At DU Today |
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:31 PM
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36. I think Dems tend to be a more cynical, or maybe just skeptical, lot. |
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For the most part it's a good thing. There's too many things wrong for anyone to be fully contented, and being cynical to an extent I think makes one a little more likely to hold someone's feet to the fire earlier.
But it can go too far as well, and we see some of that here lately. It's DU...it has to be expected. :)
I think there are some people like me who are just feeling more burned out than anything, and then there are a few holdovers that just really don't like Obama.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:21 PM
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32. It is unfortunate that so many look |
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at Obama, and do not notice all those that are in attendance. They are the ones who will bring 'change'. Not Obama, and certainly not people here on DU.
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:33 PM
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37. That's a great point! |
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Many of the most striking images of Obama's run have been of those seeing him, and hearing him. You can see so clearly how he's reached these people, and what he's already inspired in them.
Great post stillcool!
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:55 PM
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39. How can that be? He hasn't been inaugurated yet. |
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Sun Jan-18-09 05:55 PM
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40. Does change have a smell? |
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are you tasting the Change? Or just tossing about an ambiguous feel good slogan?
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Sun Jan-18-09 06:13 PM
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41. Competence. Good Intentions. And people are proud of their president again. The change is undeniable |
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