global1
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Tue Jan-20-09 12:53 AM
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Does Anyone Else Get The Feeling That * Is Just Daring The Obama Administration To..... |
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investigate and prosecute his *Co. I'm thinking that if any investigations are held on the Bush Administrations doings for the last 8 years that the Repugs will make the most of it by badmouthing the Dems & Obama for not doing what is important and just holding a witch hunt. I think that this is one of the reasons that Bush didn't use his power of pardon to his fullest extent. He can't admit that they did anything wrong and not using the power of pardon - just in his mind confirms that. So if the Dems go after his administration - the Repugs will make noise to make it look like the Dems are just vindictive and going on a witch hunt when they should be about the country's business.
I think this is just Bush daring the Dems to do something.
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Tue Jan-20-09 12:56 AM
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1. Me, I think Bush couldn't care less about any of his former staff. |
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:29 AM
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11. I bet he cares about the ones who can implicate him in conspiracies to break laws |
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Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 01:40 AM by kenny blankenship
I wouldn't be surprised however to learn that there was some kind of gentlemen's agreement between Bush and Obama about this. What can Bush offer in return for Obama's assurances not to prosecute, or not to allow prosecutions to go anywhere? It could be lots of things: information about what really has gone on between the US and Saudi Arabia concerning Saudi support of Al Qaida terror during the past 8 years, information concerning the Iraq War that Obama would not get except from Bush, or Bush loyalists. Cooperative assistance from the outgoing Executive during a transition in which the country has troops in the field from the Himalayas on over to the Arabian peninsula could be very important and attractive to the incoming Executive, especially if he is not planning to withdraw immediately from his predecessor's campaigns. And obviously he is not. The continued presence in the Dept. of Defense of Secretary Robert Gates, -the Bush family retainer appointed by the elder Bush to CIA Director for his service in the Iran-Contra secret war and arms trade scandal and for his politicizing of intelligence regarding the USSR during the Reagan years- might be a good sign that such a deal is in place. Gates isn't just the currently serving SecDef, he's also more intimately connected to the "operations" side of the Bush "Family Business" than anyone else living. He wouldn't still be there at DoD unless that met with approval from Poppy and Junior. You can believe they got something from Obama in exchange for that approval.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:46 AM
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14. Nah. I highly doubt there's any quid pro quo between Bush and Obama. |
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Other than the customary transfer of power in our system. My take on Obama - while an adroit politician he sees the means as important as the end. That's in complete counter to the Bushco crowd, who melded the means at will to fit a predetermined end. In any other role, I doubt Obama would give Bush the time of day.
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Tue Jan-20-09 03:44 AM
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18. Enjoy it while it lasts |
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Tue Jan-20-09 12:56 AM
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2. There will be no investigation because said investigation would inevitably reveal Democrats |
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were complicit with the administration's bullshit.
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Tue Jan-20-09 12:58 AM
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3. Unfortunately, that is correct. |
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It will be like the S&L fiasco in the 80s, which both parties agreed not to talk about in the '88 campaign because both were in it up to their necks.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:07 AM
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5. And how did that work out for us? |
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Not so hot.
Neither did Clinton sweeping Iran/Contra criminality plus cocaine under the rug.
Not this time?
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:08 AM
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6. Very true. Capitulation to the worst people on earth never works well for us. |
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But I think we are about to see it again, and this time it is being sold to us a "pragmatism" and "reaching out."
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:15 AM
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8. I'm not so sure it will fly. My bet is they go after something limited |
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and resolve it without any jail time or fines. Maybe a public apology?
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:23 AM
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9. This is the way I see it. And the way it is. |
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The entire Dem leadership was herded up in that room and was told everything that was going on. They didn't say a peep, and we keep voting them into office. There will be no investigation and no one will be held accountable. That's why we're "looking forward" and "not back"
And no.. I don't blame Obama for this. I don't expect the guy to burn his own house down. I do hope that he can slowly over time shake the rotten war mongering apples from the tree however.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:24 AM
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10. And they should be in shackles and orange coveralls like the rest of 'em. |
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Tue Jan-20-09 02:16 AM
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:02 AM
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4. Who would pardon Bush? |
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I think he'll spill all the beans if there is an investigation but only if he is offered immunity.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:10 AM
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7. Between whistleblowers coming out of the woodwork |
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and all the circular finger pointing that might go down after tomorrow, I'm hoping it will help force the Obama administration to prosecute.
It might be that ANYONE left defending this administration will be "on their own" and that the Repugs will want to join in and help cleanse us from what was "just a bad bunch of guys". Here's hoping.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:35 AM
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12. Republicans do not admit wrongdoing. Pardoning his administration would be an admission |
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of criminality. Bush governs with his balls, not with his brain.
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Tue Jan-20-09 01:35 AM
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13. You of course realize that pardoned people forego 5th Amendment privileges. |
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Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 01:36 AM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: Subject typo.
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Tue Jan-20-09 02:01 AM
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15. may be obama is smart enough to hold his powder til 2012 |
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after he is re-elected and the returds can't do a damn thing cause the ire has built up and georgee looks worse than ever cause obama got osama in 2010 and the economy is better too.
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Tue Jan-20-09 02:33 AM
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17. The only way an investigation and/or prosecution will happen |
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is if a number of high-level Republicans sign off on it. It MUST be seen as bipartisan. And I actually think that could happen. It is the only way they can reclaim any moral legitimacy as a party.
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