Obama may not lift stem cell limits

[biopowertoday]

I missed this earlier. This is sad.


http://www.politico.com/n...s/stories/0109/17540.html


Obama may not lift stem cell limits
By CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN Updated: 1/17/09 10:23 AM EST



Political observers had expected him to move swiftly to reverse President Bush’s 2001 executive order.
Photo: AP




PHILADELPHIA – President-elect Barack Obama signaled Friday that he might not use his executive authority to reverse Bush-era limits on stem cell research, but instead might wait for Congress to change the policy.

Obama pledged during the campaign to lift the restrictions, and political observers had expected him to move swiftly to reverse President Bush’s 2001 executive order – most likely with his own executive order.

But the president-elect suggested Friday that he would wait for Congress to weigh in on the issue.

[ejbr]

1. Why is backbone lacking when most needed? n./t

[FrenchieCat]

7. Why don't folks be a bit more thoughtful before buying media bullshit?

[Pirate Smile]

8. Do you understand the reasoning? There is a logical reason which has nothing to do with backbone.

[ejbr]

18. Meanwhile, people wait and die. Good reasoning. n/t

[Connie_Corleone]

22. If it's done by legislative action, the next president can't overturn it.

Yes it is good reasoning.

[ejbr]

30. As long as her pursues those sons of bitches for torture and

the rest, then I will try to be patient with these types of announcements. But his being soft on these types of crimes makes me suspicious of everything right now. Sure, he just got into office, I'm just sayin'.

[leftofthedial]

41. nothing prevents both.

executive order to move things along now.

Congress can get to it when and if the Senate "democrats" ever figure out how to pass anything.

[Joe the Revelator]

29. Or people 4,8,12 or 16 years from now die because funding it pulled when a republican is back in

office.


Big picture.

[ejbr]

33. He needs to unequivacally prosecute for war crimes

that's the big picture that he has so far seemed to have hinted has gotten away from him. So "big picture" assessments are not what I expect from his at the moment. Just sayin'.

[Joe the Revelator]

34. You're just looking for a reason to shit on him tonight

Cool.

[ejbr]

35. Not really

I'm just not going to forget the bullshit that has occurred and hope that our new president won't either. However, I must be suspicious because he has made me so. Sorry.

[Joe the Revelator]

36. Sure you are. You jumped from one topic to one completely unrelated topic once your orginal whine...

was shot down. Classy

[ejbr]

39. If I had to stare at the fuck called Warren,

I reserve the right to be "classy". Sorry.

[FrenchieCat]

11. And when someone with 92 posts puts up something negative

on inauguration night, ask yourself why.... Doh!

[Mid_FL_voter]

2. It's probably a "good thing" to let Congress do it. n/t

[Kdillard]

3. We'll see what happens. I am sure he has his reasons.

[Pirate Smile]

4. The reason - if it was ended through congressional legislation signed by President Obama then

it can't be overturned by an Executive Order - which it could be if he just did an executive order.

[Cha]

9. THAnks for bringing some

logic into this.

[Kdillard]

12. Thanks. I knew there had to be some thought process behind it.

[ecstatic]

23. Precisely. I heard his explanation and I agree

Politico grossly simplified what President Obama said. :eyes: And the OP thought it was a good idea to slam President Obama on his Inauguration night with incomplete facts.

[AZ Criminal JD]

32. But it can be overturned by any future congress

Get real.

[Pirate Smile]

37. If we had a Republican President but could filibuster it in the Senate or if we controlled the

House then a future President can't undo it.

You get real. There is a big difference in the staying power of an Executive Order vs. a Law passed by Congress and signed by the President.

[FrenchieCat]

5. Not at all.

He stated that congress passing legislation is stronger and a better way to go,
most likely due to getting specific funding.

BUT He didn't say he wouldn't do a thing if they didn't pass it.

Stem Cell is a winner as something to vote for.

[Enrique]

27. it's even better when you don't have to vote

why alienate pro-lifers unnecessarily when congresspeople can take the hit?

on edit: this pro-life source sees it as bad for them...

http://www.lifenews.com/bio2702.html

Although Obama couched his potential decision to wait on Congress in terms of making it a representative one, doing so also makes it more difficult for a future pro-life president to reverse Obama's actions.

Instead of issuing a subsequent executive order, a future pro-life president would be forced to rely on Congress to approve a bill putting the Bush protections back in place. With a Congress strongly in favor of embryonic stem cell research funding, that appears unlikely.

[Seen the light]

6. If this doesn't get done, he won't get my vote in 2012

Period. It would be a gamechanger for me politically.

However, I have no doubt that it will get through within the next few months. It's idiotic to not just sign an executive order, but whatever. As long as it gets done.

[Joe the Revelator]

15. Its not idiotic, its super smart.....an Executive order would be overturned the next time a

Republican President got elected.

[Seen the light]

19. If that's true and this is the only way possible for it to be done then I understand

I'm pretty impatient though.

[Joe the Revelator]

28. I'm probably the most impatient person on here when it comes to stem cells

but I want it done right, and water tight.

[Connie_Corleone]

10. Obama wants Congress to do this through legislative action.

Politico is just trying to stir up folks emotions.

Don't fall for the okey doke.

[ErinBerin84]

20. yes, he said this on his interview with John King the other day

Christ. Way to give some context, politico.

[Captain Hilts]

13. GOOD GRIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nt

[H2O Man]

17. He might not

overturn Good Grief, either. But so long as he deals with Bad Grief, I'll be happy.

[firedupdem]

14. Fuck off politico! How the hell do they know? jeez n/t

[bluestateguy]

16. Here we go with the rumors, leaks, assumptions, bromides and anonymous sources

and the usual "outrage" from the same people who like being miserable all the time.

[FrenchieCat]

21. Yeah. I'm starting to see a pattern here.....

even by those who "pretend". Must be hard to pretend.

[BlooInBloo]

26. The pattern has been plain for weeks, if not months.

[TZ]

24. well since that link doesn't work....

I smell a rat or even something worse.

[BlooInBloo]

25. I'm surprised it took you folks *hours* to start in on him.

I really thought it would be *minutes*.

[babylonsister]

31. fyi, politico sucks when it's in their best interest to trash a Dem. This

is another case in point.

[Thrill]

38. You mean he wants to do it. The way its SUPPOSED to be done

Bush abused Executive orders

[leftofthedial]

40. well, that's a change.