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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:25 PM
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Obama spy choice won't call waterboarding torture
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama's choice for top U.S. spy declined on Thursday to call waterboarding "torture," only days after his attorney general nominee condemned the interrogation practice as precisely that.

Retired Adm. Dennis Blair replied cautiously when pressed on the waterboarding question at a hearing on his nomination to be director of national intelligence, of which the CIA is a part.

The caution reflected a public debate over whether to prosecute CIA employees who used the simulated drowning technique. Torture is banned by U.S. and international laws.

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Obama on Thursday moved to ban abusive interrogations, but suggested before he took office that he did not favor prosecutions. The CIA has acknowledged waterboarding three terrorism suspects and defended it as effective, but says it discontinued the technique in 2003.

more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/usPoliticsNews/idUKTRE50L63F20090122?24234
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:39 PM
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1. It doesn't really matter if he thinks it's torture or not, his boss does.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:46 PM
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2. No it does matter. His boss isn't going to be able to review his every action
Obama isn't omnipotent. I trust him to set the tone and to establish policy but this isn't something that a subordinate of this level should be confused about. I guess my follow up would be what changed in our definition of torture since WWII or Vietnam when we prosecuted even our own for the practice and sent Japanese to the gallows over it.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:35 AM
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5. It does raise the question as to what else he does not think is torture, and
will he be informing his boss about every type of interrogation technique the agency uses.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:54 PM
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3. not surprised, seeing that he aided death squads in east timor.

"Today is the confirmation hearing for Admiral Dennis Blair as National Intelligence Director. We speak with investigative journalist Allan Nairn, who says he has new information that reveals that as commander of Pacific forces, Blair offered US aid to the general in charge of a massacre that took place in a Catholic Church in East Timor."
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/22/report_intel_nominee_adm_dennis_blair
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:28 PM
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4. with our open government we should see what goes on
waterboarding IS torture period
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meli224 Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:39 AM
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6. Intelligence Pick Calls Torture Immoral, Ineffective
Retired Adm. Dennis C. Blair, President Obama's nominee to lead the U.S. intelligence community, told Congress yesterday that torture "is not moral, legal or effective" and that "there will not be any waterboarding on my watch."

more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/22/AR2009012203658.html?hpid=topnews
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:45 AM
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8. The problem is he won't say what he believes to be torture
It's kind of like being in AA but not being sure what alcohol is.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:43 AM
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7. It seems to me that he clearly believes it *is* torture.
He just doesn't want to speak preemptively, IMO.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:46 AM
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9. I don't see how Reuters came to that conclusion.
He clearly states that "there will be no waterboarding on my watch. There will be no torture on my watch."

It seems to me he thinks it's torture.
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