Make it Howard Dean for Health. Scream for it

[TheBigotBasher]

I know many Republicans do not like him - but that is because he delivered the Democratic Party an election victory. In politics the winning Candidate always gets the credit, but winning is not just down to the Candidate (as everyone points out when that person does not win). Although to some the Primaries are still a source of bitterness, it is because of that he would be ideal to deliver health. If you can stand up and defend an agreed position against what was considered, at the time, to be the Democratic Party's biggest Political machine, you can face down the Insurance Companies.



Plus put your views to the WhiteHouse.

www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

If there are lots - it may happen.

[amitten]

1. I want Dr. Dean! n/t

[avaistheone1]

14. He reallly would be a great choice. Dean has both successful executive experience and he is an

expert in health care.

Nominate Dean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WeDidIt]

All he lacks is expertise in moving legislation through Congress

which was what Daschle brought to the table.

[avaistheone1]

20. Obama himself, did not have that experience yet he became president.

[WeDidIt]

22. Actually, yes he did have it

As a Senator, he moved legislation through the Congress.

Plus, being elected to a position is different than being confirmed to an appointed position.

[avaistheone1]

42. Dean was governor of the state of Vermont.

I thnk he can handle the legislation just fine. lol

[WeDidIt]

49. State legislation v.s Federal Legislation

is apples to oranges.

[WyLoochka]

41. Daschle never moved

any legislation through Congress, at least that I remember. He was too busy capitulating to everything the Repubs wanted.

At least Dean moved kid's health reform through the VT lege. So he's got more points than Daschle on this issue.

[karynnj]

45. I think Dean's VT kid's health insurance was the VT version of SCHIP

which did pass the Senate when Daschle was the leader in 1997. (I don't know his role - given that Kennedy and Hatch were the sponsors and Kerry and Dodd co-sponsored it.)

[tavalon]

60. Experience is a red herring

He had no experience as the head of our Party when he took that job and he aced it. He's the reason Obama is in Washington along with many new Democrats in Congress. Obama had no executive experience and yet, here he is, hitting it out of the park, two weeks in. Two weeks!

Nope, the experience meme was BS when it was used in the primaries and it still is.

Do you remember Daschle, he made Reid seem like a fully spined powerhouse? He was a horrible leader. Should we expect different this time around or should we expect that he might dance with the ones that brung him, ie: the insurance companies, the last people we want at the table discussing healthcare- they are one of the two biggest problems in our current healthcare "system" if by system, you mean sewer system.

[lostnfound]

71. If he has enough backing from Obama (and by O's direction, Rahm) he wouldn't need it

Let's have some of that Audacity of Hope. If the primary goal is to get it through 'the sausage factory' that is legislation, Daschle was a good choice. If the goal is to make sure you have a healthy and affordable product at the end of the line, Dean is a better choice. What he lacks in legislative expertise could be compensated by his strengths in numerous other areas, and bolstered by other Obama team members.

The Sec'y of HHS is more than a legislative birthing coach; it is also a position that calls for executive experience.

[bunnies]

2. Yep.

It shoulda been Dean in the first place.

[WeDidIt]

3. I would love it, but it'll never happen.

Never.

[avaistheone1]

8. Yeah, and a black man will never be president either.

YES, WE CAN!!!

[lostnfound]

72. Aw, the Audacity of Hope.

Take out your pencils, begin.
On the cusp, anything is possible. :)

Praise song for walking forward in that light.

[Mira]

24. Why?

[WeDidIt]

26. Every time any candidate withdraws during confirmation

for whatever reason, the next appointment is ALWAYS further in the direction of the opposition party.

Dean is NOT to the right of Daschle on Healthcare, ergo, Dean will NOT be appointed.

Obama is doing things the way they';ve always been done where the politics of confirmation are concerned, so I don't expect him to do any differently in this one.

[Dawgs]

29. Wrong place...

:hi:

[Mira]

51. thanks for the explanation of your comment - I'll be watching.....

[rucognizant]

70. Instinctively I didn't like him ( Dascchle)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Daschle
Following his election defeat, Daschle took a position with the lobbying arm of the K Street law firm Alston & Bird. Because he was prohibited by law from lobbying for one year after leaving the Senate,<21> he instead worked as a "special policy adviser" for the firm.<22><23>

Alston & Bird's health care lobbying clients include CVS Caremark, the National Association for Home Care and Hospice, Abbott Laboratories and HealthSouth.<7> The firm was paid $5.8 million between January and September 2008 to represent companies and associations before Congress and the executive branch, with 60 percent of that money coming from the health industry.<8> Daschle was recruited by the former Republican Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole.<24> Daschle's salary from Alston & Bird for the year 2008 was reportedly $2 million.<25>

Daschle was also a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. In addition, he served as National Co-Chair of ONE Vote ‘08 (an initiative of ONE.org), along with former Senator Bill Frist. He and former Senators George Mitchell, Bob Dole, and Howard Baker formed the Bipartisan Policy Center, dedicated to finding bipartisan solutions for policy disputes.<5>
same old same old......................

[FSogol]

4. Kick. Nominate Dean. n/t

[RiverStone]

5. Dean would be a great choice!

K&R

[dpbrown]

6. Howard Dean for Health!

Bring on the doctor!

[MNDemNY]

7. Nope, it's going to be Bill McGuire.

[Bill219]

9. I really hope not...

My wife used to work for United Health Care in Hartford CT

She left her great paying job there as an analyst because she could not stomach how the company was being run

[MNDemNY]

12. I'm joking, I hope.

[avaistheone1]

10. Let's get someone who can actually do the job - Howard Dean.

[harun]

11. K & R

[mzmolly]

13. Republicans respect Dean, even if they don't "like" him.

That's what matters. They don't like Obama either ~ ask me if I care. ;)

[w4rma]

15. Its absolutely true. (nt)

[riona]

16. I agree.

It seems a waste that he hasn't been considered for a position so far. What has he done that caused this? He did a great job as Chairman.

[Sebastian Doyle]

17. K&R&Y

You know what the "Y" means by now. :evilgrin:

[jesus_of_suburbia]

18. HELL YES! I want Dean! He will do what's best for ALL people.

[jwirr]

19. Is Dean for single payer system?

[TheBigotBasher]

21. Obama is not

The position on healthcare is pretty much a compromise position anyway- before it starts going through the House or Congress.

Any more compromise is not really needed.

[fadedrose]

23. R & K

[1776Forever]

25. Who really is more qualified for this position then Howard Dean? I am 100% for it!

Go Dean - One more time baby!

:headbang: :fistbump: :headbang: :fistbump: :headbang: :fistbump:

[TheBigotBasher]

27. Potentially Hillary.

Or even had it not been for playing away Edwards (more so his wife). That is not going to happen (and I know Mrs Edwards is ill), so AFAIK - no one.

[karynnj]

47. Even before being caught, Edwards was clearly not liked by his

former Senate peers - none endorsed him and Feingold absolutely skewered him. The fact is that neither of the Edwards really had long term credentials on healthcare. EE did not become an advocate on healthcare until after 2004 when she was diagnosed with cancer. (I know she said in a Daily Kos diary that she was a long time supporter of universal health care and that is why she pushed JRE to have a strong program even before she was diagnosed with cancer. This however is not true as JRE had one of the most modest 2004 programs that covered just kids - he blasted Kerry's near universal program as "too expensive" in one of the last primary debates.) She has already been an incredible advocate for early detection, but she has no executive experience, no legislative experience and no policy making experience.

[JFKfanforever]

65. JE hasn't rehabilitated himself yet.... So, I'd say HD for HD!

Howard Dean for the Health Department!

[CitizenLeft]

28. I already did!

:hi:

[Dawgs]

30. Me too!!

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[progressoid]

39. Me three!

[Usrename]

31. The best person for the job is Dean.

Agreed!

[bdamomma]

32. sent a e-mail but the WH comment line is still busy.

202 456 1111

[Phx_Dem]

33. It doesn't help to nominate someone who couldn't get

health care thru Congress. I am a HUGE Howard Dean fan, but Congress is definitely not. Health care is too important to play favorites while stabbing ourselves in the back. Republicans hate Howard Dean and lot of Dems in Congress do too. It wouldn't work.

[TheBigotBasher]

37. It is not just Congress and the House UHC is up against.

Any Secretary of Health will have to face down the Insurance and Drugs lobbies. Both hugely powerful, with bottomless pits of money. UHC is compromised already - soo it needs someone to be able to force it through as the drugs and insurance lobby will do everything to stop it.

[tavalon]

61. Big pharma and the insurance companies will do anything and everything

to stay in the biz and as a hospital worker, I can tell you they are the two things that completely destroyed our system. I'm amazed that it still looks like a system from outside, because from inside, it looks like a cancer riddled corpse.

[Phx_Dem]

34. Scream all you want. It will never happen.

And I say that as a huge fan of Howard Dean. Accept the truth -- Dean will not be HHS.

[brentspeak]

35. You're right, it won't. Thanks to Obama's "centrism"

and especially his DLC hit-man, Rahm Emmanuel.

[karynnj]

46. Dean was a centrist governor of VT

and he was an advisor to HRC in 1993 when she worked on health care. His own 2004 was not more leftish than Obama's 2008 plan. I don't think the issue is where he is on the spectrum. I also don't think he would be a bad choice.

If he isn't picked, it might be more his image or personality (or at least perceived personality). Though it can't be true that Obama doesn't want combative people - he picked Emanuel.

[mzmolly]

38. Why?

:shrug:

[rvablue]

40. I said the same thing on another thread and got a "you hate Obama" thrown in my face

my point that is while I DO WANT Dean to get the appointment, I'm not going to throw a hissy fit if he doesn't.

I think he would do a stand-up job. And I appreciate if Obama picked him. But I think that he might decide otherwise. I'll wait and see.

[JFKfanforever]

64. Why not? It'd be a change I could really belive in. HD for HD!

Howad Dean for the Health Department...

[FloridaJudy]

36. Message sent to Whitehouse.

K&R.
:kick:

[fadedrose]

43. Done with pleasure - R & K

[Thrill]

44. Dean won't get it. Because you have to work with Repukes to get Healthcare passed

[quiller4]

48. Dean has as many enemies in the Democratic Party

as he does in the Republican Party, maybe more. I'm one who would scream bloody murder if Dean were nominated.

[tavalon]

62. What specifically bothers you about him?

[rucky]

50. done.

[defendandprotect]

52. What does it matter who Repugs like--??? Did Dems like Bush appointees???

The problem isn't Repugs ... it's the health care insurance companies

who bought government and elected USHR/Senate -- and DLC --!!!

[defendandprotect]

53. I'm sticking with open e-mail . . . [e-mail]

And, we should insist on our Senators/Reps having open e-mail as well . . .

it's all too time consuming to go in and out of websites with even one comment . . .

leave alone if you wanted to make more than one comment to two Senators and a Rep ---

PLUS, let's say Pelosi and Reid and Conyers --- and the President!!!

Stick with open e-mail!!


PS: Done --!!!

[Lugnut]

54. Yeeeaaarrrggghhh!

Dr Dean has my support.

[Deep13]

75. Well someone had to say it.

:7

[Lugnut]

84. You know it.

Long live the Dean scream. :D

[TheBigotBasher]

93. Actually all that was wromg with that scream was

there was no real scream behind it.

Dealing with the media response was the issue, not the scream.

[Cronopio]

55. Done! Dr. Dean, and let Rahm's Massive Ego be damned. K&R. nt

[midnight]

56. You scream, I scream, we all scream for Dr. Dean.

[BigBearJohn]

57. .done.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

58. Rec #56

Governor Dr. Howard Dean brings everything to the table that Daschle did not. He's no lobbyist, he has medical experience, he favors single payer, and he's squeaky clean. And by now, I bet he knows his way around Washington pretty well. All principled people have enemies, and Dean has proven himself over and over as a leader. Remember in his campaign, he repeated that we're the only industrialized country without affordable, quality health care.

[bluestateboomer]

59. Done!

K&R

[ClayZ]

63. Done!

K and R

[Sherman A1]

66. This is what I sent yesterday...

With the withdrawl of Sen. Daschle, I would urge the administration to give strong consideration to Gov Howard Dean for the post of Secretary of HHS. I believe that he would prove to be a strong leader & help us on the road to Universal Single Payer Health Insurance that our people need to protect their health & businesses need to be competitive in the world.
Thank You!

[akbacchus_BC]

67. Please enlighten me ... does Dean want a position in the

administration? I thought he would be upfront for medicare but I have no Idea why President Obama is reaching across the aisle. As far as I am concerned, the Dems should impeach Bush, Rove and Cheney!

[geckosfeet]

68. Done. But I am nots sure that he would accept the position even if nominated.

[TheUnspeakable]

69. Done K&R!

[SoFlaJet]

73. Me likey

HD rawks!

on edit; hey where are my red letters stating that I used to be Oustthemnow?

[rucognizant]

74. Tom Daschle............

Served on the Senate Committee for Agriculture. Nutrition & Forestry; DURING THE CLINTON PRESIDENCY WHEN THE FDA ALLOWED HFCS INTO PROCESSED FOODS!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Daschle
read all about him..this substantiates why I didn't like it when he was chosen.

[kmac3]

76. K & R Let's keep this one active . . . .

Dr. Dean is a perfect choice . . . if Obama is listening to the people as he said he would . . . if he is the instrument to carry out the wishes of the peoples as he said he was . . . We should experience success if we all e-mail him and nominate Dean!
:bounce:

[SlowDownFast]

77. Done.

Why on earth Howard Dean has been shut out by the new administration thus far is beyond logic.

[underpants]

78. No No NO!

[pretty]

79. the cries for Howard Dean have become shrill and annoying

These type of posts are not helping.

[Debi]

80. Wasn't Dean pretty 'middle of the road' when he was Governor of Vermont?

:shrug: It's been so long I can't remember it all but I thought he was pretty conservative. Why would republicans NOT work with him in DC when they did in VT?

[avalon.bear]

81. He wasn't stellar ...

and has serious problems playing well with others.

I simply cannot imagine him in the halls of congress, wearing the
mantle of health care reformer, and attempting to sway Republicans to the
cause.

Particularly as he spent the last two years insulting the life out of them as
Chairman of the DNC.

His honesty admirable, his enthusiasm lauded ... but in this political and
economic climate, we need a smooth operator. Someone capable of the
gentler arts of persuasion and consensus making.

[peabody71]

82. Kick it!

[OneMadVoter]

83. Petition to get Howard Dean Appointed as Head of HSSD

Time to take action. Here is a petition.

http://www.petitiononline.com/sec4hhs/


So far it is up to 500 signatures. If possible, post this link to other blogs so we can send a strong message. B-)

[Cha]

85. Thanks, and welcome to DU,

OneMadVoter.

My comment.."Dean will work hard for us and I'm thinking his taxes are up to date."

[OneMadVoter]

91. Enough with Bipartisianship

Thanks. Just doing what I can. I am tired of politicians and their conflicts of interest :argh:

[RepublicanElephant]

88. now up to 898 signatures! nt

:bounce:

[Cha]

92. Cool~

:bounce:

[DianeK]

86. I'm thinking this needs to be kicked

[Zynx]

87. Yeargh!

[HOLOS]

89. Yes, Dean!

[OneMadVoter]

90. Another Petition

This petition is through the Care2 site which is a popular site for petitions. This one just got started -- but here is the link:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/governor-dean-for-secretary-of-health-and-human-services B-)

[Cha]

94. Scream

again! :fistbump: