AG Eric Holder's sister in law was.......

[Clio the Leo]

..... this woman....





http://www.cctvcambridge.org/files/imagecache/normal/imagefield/Picture+1_9.png





Vivian Malone Jones, the first African American woman to attend the University of Alabama.

Small world, huh?

(He mentioned this during his infamous speech last week which I am learning, upon finally getting to here it, was taken TOTALLY out of context. Our cowardice is one of talking to one another about "race." Perhaps he knows a LITTLE bit about what he was speaking ;) )

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-A-15636

[firedupdem]

1. What he said was absolutely right.

That nasty pig buchanan exposed how right Holder was with his racist outburst on Hardball.

Thanks for the info...I didn't know this!

[BlooInBloo]

8. And everybody knows it....

The brouhaha is really just white folks strongly re-asserting that only white folks can be trusted to say things about racism.

Anytime a challenge to that Fundamental Rule Of America pops up, it must be quashed as quickly as possible. Moreover, white folks work very hard to keep other white folks on the party line.

After all - we all remember what happened the *last* time a sizable number of white folks sided with black folks on racism stuff, right? White folks have no intention of letting THAT happen again.


:rofl:

[BklynChick]

12. that outburst made me sick, but at least it showed him for all his true colors. that is the

power of Holder's words... it is forcing a dialogue and some will come out as ugly as they are.

[BlooInBloo]

2. Thank gawd for brave boys and girls like her.

[Clio the Leo]

3. Ha ha! They've got George Wallace mic'ed!!!

I had never noticed that before!!!! (granted I could clearly hear him speaking on the video)

Well that just kills the defiance of it all doesn't it? "Hang on, before ah make an ass out of myself and all the good white people in the South who support me in this exercise in futility, first I gotta get ready for these heh TV people."

HA HA!!!!!

[rosesaylavee]

4. Eric is right.

There needs to be open and honest discussion about race in this country. Among more than those who have started working it out. I think it will happen but find it refreshing for someone to speak openly about it.

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[Clio the Leo]

6. Yes, she was a very beautiful woman.

[Clio the Leo]

10. er um yeah .... your first title was MUCH better. NT

[firedupdem]

11. Yeah it was. uugh. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

7. Our history comes full circle. ;)

[Uzybone]

9. The response of some of the media elite

and conservative hacks shows that he was right. Instead of talk about the issues of race, they have decided that the word "coward" was the most important thing he said.

I think its funny that America almost never discusses race unless we have a huge brouhaha erupt.

[EffieBlack]

18. And it's HIS fault that they are so angry because he shouldn't have said that word

He wasn't a good little boy and he said something that some white folks didn't like so they scream and yell and act insulted and wounded as hell and tell him that HE is the reason that they're not talking about race.

Right. If only Eric Holder hadn't last week uttered the word "coward," Pat Buchanan would be neck deep in a meaningful dialogue about race right now.

[elleng]

13. WAS this woman,

or IS this woman?

Sorry, its little language thing that bothers me; my first husband probably still IS an artist!

ps, I'm not at all surprised about his speech; something I've noticed forever. We share LOTS of things across the fence, for example (flowers, recipes) but rarely discuss race even with our favorite neighbors.

[ellacott]

15. She is no longer alive

That might be why the OP referred to her in the past tense.

[Perky]

14. These pictures are fakes

I don't see Forest Gump in any of them!!!!

WHere is the Outrage!!!!!!

[PopSixSquish]

16. I Did Not Know That - He Can Say Whatever He Wants

as far as I'm concerned. I just finished reading the book "Eyes on the Prize" which accompanied the PBS series years ago (a family member had it and though I would like to read it).

I stand in awe of this woman and of Att. General Holder.

[EffieBlack]

17. His full quote:

Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial, we have always been, and we, I believe, continue to be, in too many ways, a nation of cowards. Though race-related issues continue to occupy a significant portion of our political discussion, and though there remain many unresolved racial issues in this nation, we, average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about things racial.

It is an issue that we have never been at ease with, and given our nation's history, this is in some way, understandable. And yet, if we are to make progress in this area, we must feel comfortable enough with one another, and tolerant enough of each other to have frank conversations about the racial matters that continue to divide us.
Read his full remarks at: http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/speeches/2009/ag-speech-090218.html

He is absolutely right.

The Attorney General's speech consisted of more than 2,000 words. But media and the talking heads seemed to hear only one word: "coward."

And this full quote conclusively demonstrates that those who continue to insist that the Attorney General somehow shut down the debate by using the word "coward" and thereby "insulting" white Americans (apparently they believe that "Americans" means white people) are the ones who are stretching like Gumby to whine, lash out and play the victim by cherry-picking one word out of a very eloquent, complex and much-needed speech.

[blogslut]

19. Thank you

I did not know this about Mr. Holder. I appreciate the information very much. :hi:

[Cha]

20. Thanks, Clio, for

this history.

[BrklynLiberal]

21. Why am I not surprised that the media has cherry-picked a phrase, and

took it out of context ...to create a frenzy ...for no other reason than to sell papers..and advertizing time.
The media has become as bad as the government was under the Chimp.

[catnhatnh]

22. Know when white people talk race with blacks???

Military, Jail, Rehab, and Drinking....It's when you live with other races and when you let yourself go. If you are lucky you keep the relationship and dialogue going. But most of them start between members of a perceived "underclass"....And that is why so few republicans have had those conversations. They come from a sharing of disadvantage and never "polite" conversation. In polite conversation there is seldom a perception of a common frame.

Know when blacks talk race with whites-when they meet one that it wouldn't matter if they upset. Holder is bolder because he has risen above most white's ability to punish him. And good for him.

[Captain Hilts]

23. Wow, what stereotypes about blacks and whites.

And you forgot the world of sports.

[catnhatnh]

25. Wrong "Sport"...

I've had those conversations under all of those conditions I listed and those I had the conversations with told me that we could have them for the reasons stated. And that their reasons for limiting the discussion was white advantage.

So why don't you describe the discussions you have had and why yours were more valid and how I am "stereotyping" blacks based on my experience?

[uponit7771]

27. The reason republicans don't like to have these conversations is cause the "everyone" in everyon...

...has a fair chance leaves out the last 4 generations of blacks and then education currently.

They don't like to hear that inconvenient truth, that in and of itself undercuts the basis of their whole "free market"\"small government" philosophy because they know it's not just life that's unfair it's ideals like theirs that make it that way.

[Number23]

24. Thanks for this. She was a gorgeous woman

If the majority of Americans could actually do the thing that Holder suggested (talk about race and racism in this country) instead of being so determined to cling to his use of the word "coward," I might take alot of the chest-beating and indignation from certain folks over this issue a bit more seriously.

[goclark]

26. My, my K and R ~ I wonder how much attention this will get

from Pat and the good old boys.

Please send this thread to Keith and Rachael.

Mr. Holder said exactly what needed to be said.
There were many who jumped the gun and decided that he needed to stay in his place and select words that were not going to hurt Bill O and company.

Go Mr. Holder -- your family history is a rich one and you are more than qualified to speak on the issue!

[angee_is_mad]

28. Thanks

K & R