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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:30 AM Original message |
Evan Bayh announces NEW MODERATE COALITION of 15 Senate Dems |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. yea, and joe scum was licking his chops....a more 'conservative' voice |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It was sickening to watch - both Joe and Bayh. "Obstructionist" is the word... |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. Crap - like we need anymore of these |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. And lose the ability to set the agenda? Become the minority party? |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. At what point does being the majority |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Because if we are the majority, WE get to decide to vote on the STEM CELL BILL instead of the |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Whoa - I guess you are okay with |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
87. Are you always this dramatic? And a bunch of little Joe Liebermans wouldn't be the worst thing in |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. I didn't say one word about Obama - nor |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. I didn't "accuse" you of that. I didn't even suggest that you did that. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. I don't see it that way - and once again, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 06:51 AM Response to Reply #103 |
138. Your premise is false, though. That coalition is not going to oppose ALL legislation Obama proposes |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #138 |
146. Keep believing your Straw Man - |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. You can call it a straw man all you want, but the number of links you're putting up there prove MY |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. Wow - once again - |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Consensus, my dear, consensus. And deal-making, like has happened for centuries. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. I give up - and I do know how sausage is |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #155 |
163. But it WILL pass "muster" you see--with consensus and compromise. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. We can't afford to compromise on the environment anymore - some of... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. And there's where the GOP might surprise you. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. I'm talking about Bayh's group - I've let my Dem coal state senator know... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. His group aren't the only ones voting on the issue, though. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. Casey is the senator I'll work against if I have to - unfortunately very few... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. I have been sounding the alarm on what the GOP is doing.... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. Don't you see the Bayh group as a threat to the President's agenda - to the people's agenda? |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. Good luck with your argument - |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. Thanks! Kinda hard for me to see this Bayh group as a good thing. :) |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #179 |
199. Okay, I give up - sounds like Bayh himself! lol |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #199 |
201. Good try though ... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. Nope. Not in the SLIGHTEST. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. "can't see what they are plainly doing?" - so far, they aren't doing anything... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #184 |
185. All they plan on doing is being a moderating voice. They don't plan on |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Looks to me as if they intend to make it impossible to use the 50-vote tactic... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #188 |
192. I think their goal is to "correct" legislation before it comes to that kind of drama. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. The President shouldn't have to pick one or the other - we need BOTH... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #195 |
198. But you aren't going to get both--this year. You just aren't. So give that up. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #185 |
200. As a moderate myself, I understand your thoughts. But you're naiive if you think |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Dodgy connection, pardon my doubleclick. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #87 |
124. bayh wants to be president and this is his stage, his chance to |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:00 AM Response to Reply #124 |
140. Bayh was on Obama's short list for VP. If he wants to challenge a sitting President, he should talk |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #140 |
159. I believe bayh is only for himself. His coy nondisclosure of his BFF's |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #159 |
165. I think he didn't want to "tell on" people and left it up to them to decide to tell. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
160. Actually Lieberman is a Lot More Liberal Than Most of the So-Called |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Bayh was saying that we have too strong of a majority... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
86. It means evan bayh likes |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
88. He's helping Obama, giving him cover. Obama wants to be able to say that |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. He even mentioned working with Lieberman. oyyyy |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. is it the same nasty little group that conspired to enable bushco? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Only some of the members are going public in a press release... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. There's a bit more info here: |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Yeah, a Blue Dog Coalition - only they're not using that name now... |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
162. I have a suggestion for their name |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
32. Are they representing the agenda of all of the country? |
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fugop (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
8. Here we go again |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Exactly. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
68. That's because a lot of them are really.. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #68 |
109. yup, they just run as D's |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
11. Republican Light DLCers... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. So true - they really are what the other side should be. They're them... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:47 AM Original message |
Meghan McCain trying to do what her daddy should have. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
12. Bayh, like Bill Clinton and Joe Lieberman, is a former DLC Chairman. Birds of a feather.... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. This will really change the game - and Bayh mentioned already talking... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I doubt Rahm will want to accommodate DINO dithering. Remember, Rahm said he was a liberal on MTP. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
45. He can say he's a liberal all he wants... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. He's President Obama's Chief of Staff now. His job is to ram Barack's policy ideas thru Congress. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Howard Dean's strategy worked in 2006... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I agree - most of the credit goes to Howard Dean. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:18 PM Original message |
To a certain extent that's true but it's all about teamwork; Rahm more than did his part in 2006. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
85. What about the lack of liberals/progressives in the Administration? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Their range is geographically limited for the same reason there's a lack of GOP moderates |
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960 (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
70. Hoping this is sarcasm? |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
71. I certainly agree with you. Richard Wolffe just said that Bayh |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
74. Um...you forget Bayh was on Obama's very short for VP. |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
100. Hahahahahahahaha. I just KNEW you would have to bring up the Clintons |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
110. It's funny - your posts all contain a subject, verb and Hillary Clinton |
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brianna69 (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
15. It is these traitors not the repugs that are going |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Rahm has said that he wants to be at the formal announcement... |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
17. Oh good nothing should slow down things any MORE than introducing a third party |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
30. not really a third party |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
18. Will someone please explain to me what the hell "moderate" means? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. It is the opposite of extreme |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:05 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. How does it feel being one of the 3 DLC apologists on DU? Have fun with your repulican-lite buds.... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #22 |
51. It feels great, particulary because the moderates keep winning |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. DLC sleazbag tactic #3457856 : take credit for everything, even though they are closet republicans |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. In context, Freddie, in context? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. "centrist" or "moderate" are the words they use because "almost republican" looks pretty bad |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #24 |
52. Which members of Congress have suggested that the government determine the percentage of wealth that |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
92. who passes tax laws? trade legislation? among other functions |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Since there are no extreme elements on the Democratic side of the senate, your post is the opposite |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
61. Bayh's new coaltion will ensure that it stays that way |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. That's up to the voters. Not you or Senator Good Ol' Boy.... I mean Bayh. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #20 |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. or perhaps... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Most DUers are moderates, they just don't know it yet |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:15 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. It's a weasel word. There is no such thing as a "centrist." |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
130. that's a weasel post |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #130 |
166. No, he clarifies the term. It's curious how many who hide behind the label "centrism"... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
149. Sure there are. Don't limit your measurements to "linear" ones. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
31. republican |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Yes but, it's republiCON.. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
125. Means they take their fill of cocktails and lobster tails at lobbyist get-togethers in moderation |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
133. It means "status quo". n/t |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
193. It means they're Democrats in name only |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
28. And the Dems continue the pushing of the knife into the back |
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fugop (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
35. "Pay attention to MEEEE!" |
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falcon97 (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. That's what I thought at first, too. |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
37. What a bunch of asses, |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
38. Wasn't Bayh a potential VP pick? |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
75. I think Bayh was on Hillary's short list as her VP. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
169. Bayh was on Obama's short list, too. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
39. Fuck them. Moderate Republicans are more useful than them. nt |
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InAbLuEsTaTe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
41. I love it - now we just need to replace these fools with progressive Democrats. Let's get it on. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. They might as well paste "replace me" signs on their weaselly lil foreheads. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Which actually is the only good things about the coalition |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. True - easy to pick them off now. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
115. LOL |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
194. It would make them easier to spot |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
46. Who are these other 14 who joined wtih Bayh? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Bayh said most would be listed on a press release, but some are... |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
47. I bet Claire McCaskill is one of them. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Blanche Lincoln was the only woman mentioned this morning. |
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Ino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
117. Yep, she is. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. I knew it,. She is big on talking loud. But actions don't usually back up |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
127. I get the feeling Feingold is included in this mix. n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #47 |
141. The fact is, Obama's not a tanned Kucinich. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #141 |
161. The Problem is He Has Neoliberal Tendencies, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #161 |
164. No, he is a moderate Democrat who leans left on a few issues and has a centerline view of others. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
54. who's in? Bayh? Webb? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. He said there is a press release coming... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I'm curious if they're skewing further right than the Senate New Democrats who largely support Obama |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Well, Joe Scarborough was positively gleeful - said he and Bayh... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #54 |
62. I guarantee you Melissa Bean is in there. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
183. I guarantee you she isn't. |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
55. Headline should read: |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Maybe so - he may see himself as the answer for moderate Republicans. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. He's an asshole. I go to school here in Indiana and I always wondered why he was |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
63. Some Members of Evan Bayh’s New Anti-Progressive Caucus Too Frightened to Admit Membership |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Yes, babylonsister posted a video of Bayh saying they were putting 2 or 3 members in "witness protec |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
67. Bayh is the only Democrat named in the Earmark Hypocrisy Hall of Fame: |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. One of my big concerns is their cap and trade agenda - protecting dirty industries... |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
69. Evan Bayh must go. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
73. Contact him and let him know how you feel! |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Excellent letter n/t |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
77. Oh look, the Benedict Arnold wing of our party is kicking up their heels |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #77 |
94. So true. NOW, Bayh and hs fellow "moderates" get energized |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
82. 15 Senate Dems out of 58? There are probably a few more sympathizers |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. 15 seems small to me too... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Sure bites into the magic 60 though! |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
90. Wait - isn't that called the DLC |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. imo it's an announcement of opposition to the President's upcoming plans... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. no, it appears to be a Blue Dog Senate Coalition |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Do you see them as obstructionists? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. I have never had a lot of common ground with Blue Dogs... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. That's how I see this coalition - we finally agree on something! :) |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. We agree 100% |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. Obama is exactly where I'd like him to stay ideologically |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. But you wouldn't get upset, would you? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. well, as with all pragmatists, conditions will dictate which direction Obama moves |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. OK, thanks for your answer |
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Bold Sea Captain (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #95 |
111. right. the DLC is a rotting corpse, the Blue Dogs are still kicking |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. yeah, that's a misinformed post if I ever saw one |
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Bold Sea Captain (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. you didn't notice that the DLC candidate was roundly rejected in the last election? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. lol |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
102. A contact list for the members -- |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Has there been a press release with these names?? |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #104 |
114. From ProSense's original thread --- |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Thanks! |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Thank you |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #102 |
128. Thanks for this. I'll give them a piece of my mind through Rangel. n/t |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
107. all i can say is... what are their names? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #107 |
118. see post 102 |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
120. And people still say that Ralph was wrong . . . ., |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. he should have never made that third Karate Kid movie! |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #120 |
171. I've Been Re-Thinking That Lately Myself (nt) |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #120 |
172. I've Been Re-Thinking That Lately Myself (nt) |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
126. Fineman (on Hardball) says this group means that the President... |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
131. Great. Just what we need. nt |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
132. Good. Now it will be easier to know who to target in the next primaries. |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
134. Evan Bayh is an ass who will NEVER be president. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. Evan Bayh is an ass who should have never been elected at all |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
135. How many of them are up for reelection? |
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Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
137. De ja vu |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 06:58 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. This happens in some respects everytime Democrats hold power |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
142. I swear I'll never give money or work to get any Democrat elected again. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
143. There go the 2008 election gains |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
144. Disgusting. Where were these assholes when Bush decided to start a trillion dollar war? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #144 |
150. They were cheering Bush on. |
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traxster (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
145. I saw that our new senator Kay Hagan is one of them. I'm thoroughly disappointed. n/t |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. I saw that too and felt the same way - also heard that Sen. Casey... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
153. Our critical enagement is going to be even more important now. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. Yep - that's why I started that thread about making calls today... |
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Born_A_Truman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
156. Bayh announces same thing over and over (Daily Kos) |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
157. Self-interested cowards with no fixed beliefs |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
158. ... |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
176. wow! they've even got their official theme song on youtube! |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
178. Yeah, 'cause it's common knowledge that centrists are regularly shut out |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
181. disgusting! my main concern is global climate change...is there a form letter or email to send? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #181 |
189. If your senator is in the group, I'd suggest calling his or her office... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. where is the list? can you post it, please? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #191 |
197. Here it is... |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
187. So basically they think they're going to hold us hostage for the next two years? |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
190. Fucking Bayh, that scumbag loser |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
196. Evan Bayh is NO moderate - He is a foreign policy extremist nut job - neoconservative CRANK!! |
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