I am sorry, if you voted for Obama, and are now SHOCKED

[Peacetrain]

by his stand on Health Care, Afghanistan, International Trade, etc..I am having a very hard time understanding your position.

This is for the SHOCKED and those who accuse Obama and by extension, his long time supporters of being liars, you need to be questioning yourself.

You voted for someone who went counter to everything you so believe in that you are now SHOCKED??

I do not necessarily know if I would want to admit that I was that delusional in my thinking processes that someone I voted for who ran counter to everything that you were looking for in a canidate would suddenly be different than what he campaigned on for over a year.

:crazy:

[Lerkfish]

1. I fully supported Obama, but I went in eyes wide open, knowing

his stand on certain issues was not that removed from the DLC standardized view. I believe at the time, I stated it was a game of percentages. I was, however, extremely impressed with the running of his campaign, and that is a separate issue from his stand on some issues. He has always stated his plan to go after Afghanistan more robustly. I disagreed with that, but I put it in the "things I don't like" column.

[Peacetrain]

4. That is a very honest assessment.. I was directing my OP at a few

who have been beside themselves in anguish.. Hey I do not agree with everything he does and is doing, and I am one of his biggest supporters.

[elocs]

10. Other than each of us having our own custom made marionette

whose strings we could pull to make them dance to our own personal tune, how could any candidate be everything to everyone? Anything Obama does tends to piss off all Republicans and a chunk of vocal Democrats who will always be unhappy about something because that is what seems to justify their existence.

[FreakinDJ]

2. I feel betrayed on his reversal towards outsourcing jobs

That was his biggest vote getter.

I suspect he has come under the Belt-Way influence and fear that issue alone will deny him any chance of re-election

[stillcool]

20. What about jobs being outsourced?

[MadHound]

3. I voted for Obama, and I'm not shocked.

I knew full well what his positions were when I voted for him, and thought him the lesser of the two evils that were available at the time.

However just because I voted for him doesn't automatically mean that I have to agree with everything he says or does, nor does it mean that I can't express my criticisms. In fact that has always been my right to do so as a citizen of this country.

My hope is that he gets enough heat from the left that he changes his position on some of his quite wrongheaded stances. If not, then I will have to reconsider my support for him in '12. Isn't it great, the way our American political system works!

[Hanse]

5. You really shouldn't be shocked...

that a lot of spoiled, whiny, crybabies are complaining about Obama, carrying the RW's water for them, and believing all the RW rhetoric they hear on the media.

The suckers did the same thing during the Clinton administration, and let's face it- they're not exactly fast learners.

[depakid]

13. That take just dripped with irony

[leftofthedial]

6. "shock" has nothing to do with it.

[onehandle]

7. I'm not shocked whatsoever. I knew he was a socially-liberal Centrist.

I was pretty vocal about that fact.

I knew that he would be following in the footsteps of Bill Clinton, but would be more successful because the Republican party essentially died when they "re"-elected Bush.

Clinton could have gotten a lot more progressive work done if the GOP had not been so strong.

Obama will get progressive things done, but he is a Centrist and will get those things done too.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

21. a slightly more progressive version of Bill Clinton

minus the one ACTUAL scandal- which he was crazy, stupid, etc. to WALK into with the whole GOP/media apparatus watching- would satisfy me.

[Lint Head]

8. I G.E. Blender would be a better President than McCain could

have been or Bush ever was.
:dem:

[napi21]

9. I voted for Obama, and he's doing almost everything I knew he would.

I want Osama to be caught under this admin. I know HC can't be obtained in onw fell swoop but will have to be gained gradually. I've never heard him say he was for outsourcing jobs! He's getting the troops out of Iraq in a careful & methodical manner.

I don't know what your problems are!

[kestrel91316]

11. I'm not shocked, and I'm not particularly unhappy. He wasn't my

first, or second, or even third choice, lol. But he is now my president, and he's gonna get a chance to prove his mettle before I start bitching. I'm happy so far. I don't expect all issues to be completely addressed, or all problems solved, within 60 days - unlike the children on DU.

People watch too much tv. They think all problems can and should be solved within 60-120 minutes.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

12. In fairness, many of those condemning the

In fairness, many of those criticizing others for having had unrealistic expectations were the same posters who lied for months on end to create those expectations.

There is little less attractive than attacking others as dumb for believing the lies you tell them.

The expectations to which you refer were built through conscious propaganda efforts so there's no real mystery to where some people got the impressions the formed.

[craigmatic]

14. I disagree with Obama on education and I think he'll stop short of universal healthcare

He is like Bill Clinton but with his own agenda instead of putting a smiley face on republican policies. But to date his policies have been 70% to the benefit of corporations and 30% to help average people. He could do more but I think it's more his own caution and politics that hold him back.

[watrwefitinfor]

15. I'll kick this and recommend it because I agree with you, but

also to try to get something on the Greatest Page besides the ignorant cry-baby posts that seem to be consuming it. Damn, it's as bad as the whining about Obama during the primaries, and seemingly by some of the very same people.

I am a socialist, and have no dog in this fight, beyond the lesser of two evils, and the fact that Obama seems able to get things done. He has quickly begun the dismantling of some of the more overtly fascistic Bush policies. For that, he deserves some degree of support from everyone who claims to be progressive.

Wat

[Mojambo]

16. I'm sorry that there wasn't a progressive option.

I'm shocked that you think anyone on the progressive side had a choice in this election or ANY election over the last 30 years.

We vote for whatever slop stinks least. I'm hip to it.

[nickinSTL]

17. anyone who's shocked wasn't paying attention

Obama was very nearly my last choice among those running for the Dem nomination. I knew that he wasn't going to be a strong proponent of all the socialist policies I'd love to see. (Not that most of the other candidates would have, either)

Over the course of the campaign after securing the nom, I became more impressed with him, and supported him completely vs. McCain.

But, I knew he was a centrist that was being painted by some as some kind of liberal savior.

My expectations are that he'll right some of the wrongs of the last 8 years, but I'm under no illusions about him doing everything I'd like to see done. Anyone else would have known the same if they'd actually paid attention to his positions rather than the hype.

[AZBlue]

18. Those that are "shocked" didn't really vote for him nor are they really shocked.

They're trolls, PUMA trolls.

[Canuckistanian]

19. "Oh, but he didn't really mean those things he said in the primaries"

Isn't that what people thought during the election? Get real. Obama was never a progressive crusader.

I would even venture that Obama was more conservative than Clinton.

I never liked Obama's response to the accusation that he was a member of the DLC back in 2003. He was TOO coy about answering it forcefully.

However, Obama DID endorse single payer back then, as evidenced in this Black Commentator article:

I favor universal health care for all Americans, and intend to introduce or sponsor legislation toward that end in the U.S. Senate, just as I have at the state level. My campaign is also developing a series of interim proposals – such as an expansion of the successful SCHIP program – so that we can immediately provide more coverage to uninsured children and their families.

http://www.blackcommentator.com/48/48_cover.html

Where is that commitment now?

[stillcool]

22. I liked the letter he wrote to the Black Commentator..

regarding the DLC..and his 'reversal' on single-payer is a reflection of what will get passed. I wonder how many people who complain, have representatives that would vote against every single thing they themselves are requiring the President to submit to Congress? Would anyone fess up to that?

[chill_wind]

25. Is he or isn't he a "New Democrat"?

President Obama Declares His DLC Allegiance: Says "I Am A New Democrat"

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/president-obama-declares-his-dlc-allegiance-says-i-am-new-democrat

[Milo_Bloom]

23. Blame Obama? No. Some of his supporters? Hell Yeah

All throughout the primaries and the election as Obama made some of his stances clear many on this board (including myself) raised objections to some of his positions, specifically on Health Care, Afghanistan and Free Trade.

We were told repeatedly by many supporters, "he HAS TO say these things... just wait until he gets into office." (nudge nudge, wink wink)

This went on during the primaries and then to an even larger extent during the general election.

So, yeah, some people are going to be ticked off b/c they were told he was just saying what he had to in order to win, but once he was in, we would see the "real" Obama.

[lostnotforgotten]

24. Am Not Shocked - Just Disappointed That He Has Not Risen Above Washington Business As Usual

eom

[Luminous Animal]

26. There might be a few people who are shocked

but I observe that most are doing what they did before he was elected; that is, advocating on issues for which the majority of American's agree... 1 ) Universal health care; 2 ) Troops out of Iraq; 3 ) Support for medical marijuana; 4 ) Investigation into the Bush administration's crimes of torture, etc; 5 ) Stronger protections for unions; 6 ) Free-trade reform...

Concern for these issues are not assuaged by the election of a Democratic President and Congress. There wasn't much choice, after all, within the confines of a two party system.

[Kablooie]

27. Oh lord almighty. We sure are mightily impatient Americanos, aren't we?

He hasn't achieved anything yet.
He is just laying a foundation for development.
What the ultimate development will be, neither you nor I can know right now.