When bush was President, I thought the Paulson bailout giveaway plan was shit.

[leftofthedial]

But now that Obama is President, I love the Paulson bailout giveaway plan and I think Geithner is just the man to make us think that shit sandwich is really a delicious reverse oreo.

Anyone who disagrees with me or dares to criticize ANY aspect of the Obama Administration or its plans or policies is a pathetic, strawman-humping, Naderite, Palinesque, McCain-loving, disrupting, faux concern trolling, limbaugh-ish, cheney-ish, dirty rotten Obama hater. Their SHOCK and IMPATIENCE are loathsome. How dare they have an opinion? They should take their filthy ideas and go live in a septic tank. They are right wing, extreme leftist, socialist communists.

Whew! Now I feel like I belong.

[lumberjack_jeff]

1. Embrace the madness, baby. n/t

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[Truth2Tell]

3. Sometimes I think

Obama could run the exact same administration as Bush with all the exact same policies, and half of DU would cheer him on.

[leftofthedial]

4. Go Team!

Take State!

[Truth2Tell]

5. ...

[chill_wind]

23. Oh my.

:-)

[soothsayer]

6. well he mostly is so far (but it's only been 69 days)

[Truth2Tell]

7. I actually don't think "mostly" is accurate.

"Partly" the same as Bush is fair to say though.

[Zynx]

8. The issue for you is that the set of policies he is pursuing are not particularly similar.

[Truth2Tell]

10. some are, some aren't.

I criticize him when they are the same, like the Wall Street welfare plan.

[PM Martin]

9. True.

It's a called a "cult of personality".
Destined for one-term wonderness and a world full of pain.

[Hawkowl]

15. Well put.

This is what is so, so, disheartening. I know most people want to simply "believe" in something because they think the mere fact of believing is the same as doing.

[Beacool]

17. You are probably correct..................

:7

[earth mom]

28. That's what IS happening, though it's not half of DU-more like 20%-30%

Weren't those *'s numbers when he left office?

[TBF]

31. Pretty much that's what we're seeing right now - with the exception that he

signed stem cell research & the Lily Ledbetter Act. Those are 2 great things and I give him all due credit for those. Other than that, same old same old with DU cheering him on.

[ProSense]

11. They are

not the same plan

[Truth2Tell]

12. Same fundamental concept though.

And still being run by the guys who caused the problems to begin with.

[girl gone mad]

18. True.

Geithner's plan is actually worse.

[ProSense]

20. "Geithner's plan is actually worse."

Wow!

[cliffordu]

13. Wipe your mouth.

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[leftofthedial]

16. LOL

[Kermitt Gribble]

19. But.....but....

President Obama likes him so we should all shut up and give him a chance! That is all that matters!

[smiley_glad_hands]

21. Yes, lets just nationalize everything, that will solve all our problems. eom

[truedelphi]

22. And handing away the economy of the next four generations before we admit

We have to nationalize will help us EXACTLY how? I mean, 4.1 Trillion is a lot of money to give away, purchasing another set of barnyard animals before anyone in power bothers to even close the barn door.

[countingbluecars]

24. Boo hoo. n/t

[chill_wind]

25. And WAR and the Cost of War, I'm all down with that now

because it's the RIGHT war. It's a SPECIAL war. It's MY president's war. So STFU.

[PassingFair]

27. It's ...AMERICA'S WAR!

:patriot:

:puke:

[bvar22]

26. Nailed It!

:patriot:

K&R

[dionysus]

29. ivory tower...check. turd missile... check

:hi:

[mkultra]

30. PUMA circle jerk?

[chill_wind]

33. Wrong fucking number.

I donated frequently, phone-banked, and knocked on doors and voted for President Obama. What I didn't do is check my brains into the shop for the rest of his tenure the day after his inauguration.

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[mkultra]

41. I doubt it

On both counts.

[chill_wind]

42. And my dainty suggestion to what you can do with that still stands.

[mkultra]

57. say what you want

and do the same with your outrage.

[TBF]

32. Worse yet, they express their opinions. Didn't anyone understand the Patriot Act?

Those freedom of speech days are gone baby. You will be assimilated...

[SlingBlade]

34. I hear a little Zanix goes a long way

[Bluenorthwest]

36. I hear

that it is spelled Xanax, and that snark and meaness are going out of style.

[SlingBlade]

47. Some People Say ......

[geek tragedy]

37. People who characterize his economic policies as Bush's third term

deserve all the insults they get.

[liberation]

40. Why does your comment ring of "You are either with us or against us..."

It was a "pleasure" to be insulted, vilified, terrorized, and dismissed by diehard Bush supporters for 8 years. And now, voila! I get to be insulted, vilified, terrorized and dismissed by diehard Obama supporters.

The more things "change" the more they stay the same. Cult personality is dangerous, period.

[geek tragedy]

43. If you think Obama=Bush, then of course you are going to do

everything you can to stop him, and will be unyielding in your opposition to his policies at every turn.

Why on earth should supporters of President Obama bother treating you differently than we treat the Freepi?

[liberation]

45. Wow... with reasoning like that?

If you have to resort to straw men to support your positions, color me less than impressed. Where oh where did I equate Obama to Bush in my previous post?

But thanks for proving my point though. At the end of the day, what I was equating the ravid Bush supporters with the ravid supporters of Obama. Incidentally if you substitute "Obama" for "Bush" and "freepi" for "traitor" I have heard your "why on earth should supporters of President Obama bother treating you differently than we treat the Freepi?" argument verbatim a few years back when I was opposing the build up to the Iraq war.

As I said, the more things change... the more they stay the same.

So that is all you guys have? Intimidation and intellectual dishonesty as your debate tools? Wow...

[chimpymustgo]

48. Support our President, dammit! You're either with us or against us. Krugman is a Freeper!

Why do you hate America??

[geek tragedy]

54. No one is saying we shouldn't disagree with him and encourage

him to do better.

It's the people who are 100% against Obama and his policies, who are unyielding in their hostility to him, that need to go.

[geek tragedy]

51. There are people here who state that Obama=Bush.

Should supporters of the President bother with those people? If they think Obama=Bush, they are going to do everything they can to undermine Obama, just like we did to undermine Bush.

[leftofthedial]

46. apparently so do many who don't

[geek tragedy]

55. Eh, you hate all Democrats who matter.

Sorry your dreams of a Kucinich/McKinney didn't materialize.

[leftofthedial]

56. Your opinion is that all Democrats don't matter then?

That's basically my problem with you.

I don't hate any Democrat. I don't think we should exclude any Democrat from the debate or from participation.

You, though, are not a democratic Democrat. Who else doesn't "matter"?

[JJ]

38. No kidding!

I love how Krugman has become "shrill" again.

[debbierlus]

44. Obama is a corporatist -vested in reviving a failed, ethically bankrupt, unsustainable system

Trying to resurrect this criminal system is a criminal act...

It is NOT 'change we can believe in'.

I put aside my logical concerns of Obama, and crossed my fingers, and I knew better. The democratic party is too emeshed with the corporate system to create the change we really need. I know it now. I won't do this again.

[avaistheone1]

49. Well when...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvyDn1TPr8

[Barack_America]

50. When Bush was President, I thought the Paulson bailout was regrettable, but probably necessary.

And now that Obama is President, I think that the Geithner bailout is regrettable, but probably necessary.

The difference lies in that Paulson did a crap job of implementing the bailout, and the jury is still out on Geithner, but I am holding him to a higher standard.

[Enthusiast]

52. Geithner doesn't want to

regulate naked credit default swaps. I don't like this one bit.

[Maven]

53. All those who disagree with you NEVER LIKED OBAMA FROM THE BEGINNING

!1111!111