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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:14 AM Original message |
I have had it with this "single payer" nonsense... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. It'd be cheaper if people would just die sooner n/t |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. Mandatory death at age 65 and life termination above some upper |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
42. I always wanted to live during the time of Logan's Run. n/t |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
122. Wow. We have out new stimulus plan. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Horseshit. Canada runs its entire medical system with fewer bureaucrats-- |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Speaking of horseshit-- Canada has... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. "When you wreck you car, does the company just send you a check without looking at it?" |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. "Workplace insurance" is a form of slavery! You support that!? n/t |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
36. I was hospitalized in a foreign country for three days... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #36 |
58. Here in France your total out of pocket for a hospital stay |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. You don't have to watch the cracks. Under global budgeting-- |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
127. That sounds a lot like the free market self-regulation the... |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
49. I would however point out that the UK has |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
55. Sadly for you |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
112. This particular Candaian... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
57. France has government health care |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #57 |
71. I've read that France's system is better than that in the UK |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
92. I think it is better than the system in England |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. Yes, I've heard that Germany and France have a better system |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:19 AM Response to Reply #92 |
137. There are effectively no out of pocket costs in the UK |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
114. My understanding is that it is another mix of ... |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
65. You might want to learn what you're talking about |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
128. Actually, I was apparently wrong about Canada... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
87. Whaa? Where to start? |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
117. I see two things at play here |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #117 |
129. Research yourself-- none of them have single payer... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
119. Canada, the UK, and Australia all have very different systems |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
125. Medicare fraud? Did you miss a turn on the free(p)way? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. Funny, just last week I was reading about another doctor... |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #130 |
138. Regurgitated wingnut hyperbole is not significant. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
134. Canada does not have government health care. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
31. +1, eridani! nt |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. For profit health care is not working |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. That's a 6% profit, which might be a... |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Sorry but its a dirty word in health care |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Very old studies, and if... |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I am not saying its utopia |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. OH and theres plenty of more recent studies at the link I got those from |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Hey, Im not Canadian... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
131. Coupla small points about that... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. The old tired insurance company line |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Useful, but not in the case of insurance. nt |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
47. There is a difference between turning an honest profit and being greedy. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
80. Every penny of profit taken is money not used to pay for actual health care |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
88. Pharma companies have an average net profit of 20%+ n/t |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
140. If profit drove innovation and better care, it wouldn't be a dirty word. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. And they are spending millions |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
5. In my experience, people don't want to talk about the costs of health care |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
39. Jeezus H Kerist! Of course we don't talk about costs. That's because |
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JayMusgrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
59. That's the point! Exactly! |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
148. Exactly! I've asked several times how people reconcile |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
7. Everyone tries to compare US HC with European national HC, but |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Thats because of college costs no? |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
56. Doctors think of themselves as gods |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
60. Here in France tuition for med school |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. This probably won't be entirely popular to mention... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Oregon tried that years ago... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. A lot more people up here would defend this system if... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
35. Funny, I have never heard an advocate |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #35 |
63. The French system is paradise |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 01:43 AM Response to Reply #63 |
123. Profits of insurance companies = direct reduction of health care |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
120. The Oregon plan was not for the general public! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
40. Nobody is objecting to people buying extra bells and whistles |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
61. Here we have insurance co ops to cover stuff like ambulence rides |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
96. Yeah, its that cheap here in BC too... |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
83. How much per capita does the Canadian system cost |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. Yeah, this is a good point. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
14. Wouldn't it make sense to say to the biggest cost factors that we're not paying what they want |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:23 AM Response to Original message |
21. Let me be blunt |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Just an FYI... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Yep- that's one difference between Canada and Australia |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. So they can "opt out"? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:51 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Not opt out- |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
45. There is a direct link between every valid, yet unpaid, claim... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
23. Eliminate the insurance comapnies & HMOs |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. "make hospitals not-for-profit" |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 05:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. You say.. enough already..and nationalize them |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
66. So just seize wealth from private stock holders? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #66 |
115. I'm listening to you, and thanks for sharing. nt |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:47 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Turning non-profit into for profit was massive theft of public resources in the first place |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #41 |
70. right |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #70 |
109. Sociopaths and thives are currently managing our health care system |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #70 |
110. Sociopaths and thives are currently managing our health care system |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
64. You wait for a hospital to go out of business then buy it |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Yeah, I understand that approach |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
95. let them compete against government hospitals |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. I totally agree! |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
116. Around here we have the NYC Health and Hospitals... |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:39 AM Response to Original message |
26. Potential savings are not limited to the overhead that insurance companies charge. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
30. Health insurance does not contribute to care |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
38. Health insurance is only a payment mechanism and since their |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
43. Just because somebody else kicks me in the shins... |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
44. I will bitch about those THIEVING insurance companies, because I have been a victim of their |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I'm with you. |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I hear you. |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. My mom also worked as a pre-cert nurse for an insurer. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
48. Maybe you're not old enuf to remember "before insurance"? If you were, then you'd know.... |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. "So everyone, incl. the patients, are a bit to blame, IMO. " |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #54 |
124. I DO think that the avg person is primarily responsible for his/her health, and has a duty |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #48 |
133. Actually, I do remember those days, and the punditry about... |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
50. Just look at Canada and Europe asshole. No one is claiming |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #50 |
69. The problem is there are people saying "END PRIVATE INSURANCE!!!!111elevens!" |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Think about what you are saying. What good is Private Insurance? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Exactly. It doesn't matter what good I personally think it is or is not. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. It is only unrealistic if people think it is, I don't. Without the threat of going |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. But even HR 676 doesn't eliminate private insurance. (nt) |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #77 |
107. Yes it does. It makes it unlawful for anyone to offer the same services |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #107 |
126. Thanks for this information. I didn't know that. n/t |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
52. Well that settles it for me. I'll just go over there in the corner and die |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
62. Is there anyone who has not profited from the Insurance biz |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
67. Why are so many people here so dedicated to black and white thinking? |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Because... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Is there any country where private insurance was abolished |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I'm saying given a choice between... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. So... *is* there any country where that's been the process? |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. That's never been the process anywhere... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. But I didn't ask if single payer would be the result |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
104. If enough people are willing to fight for it, then yes. N/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. That's a condition I don't see beeing the case anytime soon. (nt) |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #76 |
135. Near as I can tell, private insurance hasn't been... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
89. I think you're using "single-payer" as synonymous with "public" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Is hr 676 not a single-payer plan? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #94 |
111. hr 676 is single payer. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
78. Kinda free with the insurance lobby info. |
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biopowertoday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
90. Its a major problem. Did you see this?.......... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #90 |
101. Why Germany won't work here. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #78 |
136. I'm not part of it, as you would know if you read my post, but... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #136 |
139. Read your post. Read mine? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #139 |
144. And there was no reason for you to ask if... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. ??? What are you on about in your first sentence. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. And the bottom line is... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. Nice try. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
85. The last line was great. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
103. hospitals don't always care if they are paid... |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
86. "Nasty, thieving insurance companies." |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
91. I hope Obama's proposal (when it comes) |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. (if it comes)...... |
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Puzzler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
98. Actually in Canada, the system is provincial... |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
100. About health care reform |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
106. What's NONSENSE is having an unnecessary middleman. |
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biopowertoday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
108. Obama and congress will never go far enough to really regulate |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. "no political will to regulate those who donate to their campaigns" |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
113. Thanks. Bookmarked and recommended. nt |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
121. THE ONLY NONSENSE IS THE EXISTING HEALTH INSURANCE SYSTEM - |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
132. Watch Sicko and it will all become much clearer. |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
141. Bullshit! |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
142. I spent 18 years overseas and half of that time worked with doctors |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
143. "Single Payer" means eliminating the need for private insurance. |
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