It's '84 again: do we want Glenn or Mondale?

[BobbyJay]

The choice is yours.




www.clark04.com

HELP, IS ON THE WAY

[OhioStateProgressive]

1. as relative of John Glenn i find this somewhat amusing

it is all good though:)

[JohnKleeb]

9. You're related to him?

Please tell me, he supports DK :) because that would be sweet. My dad shook his hand when he was an astronaut in the early 60's.

[OhioStateProgressive]

10. i am related to him, yes

my mother is a Glenn. John Glenn is the second cousin of my late grandfather, Dr. Robert Glenn. I am not sure how close of a relative that makes me, but I was always told to be proud of it:)

[incapsulated]

25. Hey, that's pretty cool :)

Have you ever met him?

I'm a big admirer of his. :)

[OhioStateProgressive]

26. i have:)

only twice though, both times they were just me watching him at a speech and speaking with him afterwards, the obligatory "I like what you had to say", and once told him who my grandfather was, and he smiled and said 'thank you for coming', i don't think he was impressed:))

[incapsulated]

27. Heh

I guess it's hard to impress someone who has met everybody, even if you're a relative. :)

But then, you don't have to impress your relatives, they can't get rid of you no matter what they think of you. ;)

[farmbo]

28. I volunteered for Glenn in NH in '84...and, sorry, Clark can't compare.

Like Clark today, Walter Mondale was the establishment candidate in 1984 with strong party support. Glenn, like Dean today, was an outsider, insurgent candidate.

And like today, the party establishment and the pack media smeared Glen on caricature stereotypes in a concerted effort to stem his popular support.

In 1984, Glenn was boring and "spacey".

In 2004, the establishment has tried to brand Dean as "angry".

And Clark, like Mondale in '84, has totally been given a free pass. (See Newsweek, MTP and Stephanopolis on ABC).

[jfiling]

31. Since you're related to John Glenn

Maybe you can tell him to pay his campaign debts. A lot of good people here in Ohio were hurt financially by his inability to pay his bills.

[Padraig18]

2. It's not even remotely like '84.

The demographics have changed, the nation is more polarized, etc.

[FubarFly]

5. The nation is extremely polarized.

Mondale would do much better now than in 84. Especially if he had someone to run a campaign like Trippi can.

[Padraig18]

7. You're right.

:)

[RoeBear]

20. I hate to burst that bubble...

...but Mondale just lost an election in 2002.

[JVS]

21. With about a week of campaigning.

[RoeBear]

22. This isn't worth pursuing now...

..because this was covered in depth here at DU at the time.

Suffice it to say that if Mondale couldn't win in one of the most liberal strongholds in America, he's not the man in 2004 either.

[FubarFly]

24. Who wants Mondale to run in '04?

I was only illustrating the fallacy of this Dean is Mondale canard.

His most recent election is irrelevant to that point:

It wasn't a presidential campaign,
he is much older than he was in 84,
he has lost stature since 84,
and he didn't run a full campaign.

In other words, I am talking about the Mondale of '84, not '02.

[Draven]

29. Mondale did lose...

I voted for him when he ran for Senate here in MN two years ago as a replacement to the late Sen. Paul Wellstone (God bless his soul.:cry:) I don't understand how Mondale lost here. Not one person I know voted for that horse-faced son-of-a-bitch Norm Coleman. And I know a lot of people.

:shrug:

[Clark Campaigner]

32. yes, and it was in the only state he carried in 1984

so maybe if it was 1984 all over again, reagan would have won all 50, rather than a pale 49 states.

[worldgonekrazy]

23. It IS like the BOOK 1984

And we are being told to elect a General in the interests of Peace.

[Atlant]

3. Wasn't John Glenn already elected to an office at the time?

Wasn't John Glenn already elected to an office at the time?

Wasn't he already a Democrat with a clearly-Democratic track record?

Had he voted for Republicans?

(Just wondering)

Atlant

[OhioStateProgressive]

4. which is why i found this amusing(nt)

[w4rma]

6. Which is supposed to be Glenn and which is supposed to be Mondale? (n/t)

[Capn Sunshine]

16. I think one of 'em is pretty close to Perot

He ran a tight ship and was 'strong on defense" too

[CMT]

8. for one thing

John Glenn was an authentic American hero who also distinguished himself as an effective US senator who had a legislative and electoral record to present to voters.

[liberalnurse]

13. Yes he does have a fine political

record dressed with military and American icon honors.

[RafterMan]

11. What is the point of this thread?

Neither Clark nor Dean are trying to win by analogy.

And, no, it's not 1984 again.

[OhioStateProgressive]

12. it's been 1984 for a couple decades now, actually(nt)

[liberalnurse]

17. Hang around a bit......

you'll catch on to the flow......If you can't get it this time....go ahead and click on a few other posts that fall under your interest.

[RafterMan]

34. Sorry

But your "Clark has Cancer" thread wasn't any better.

There was already a retribution thread against the foolish Clark supporter who posted about Kerry's health.

[LoZoccolo]

14. Glenn.

Why do you ask?

[ulysses]

15. actually, no,

it's not 1984. Neither is it 1972.

[Albert Einstein]

18. TED KENNEDY. I know he didn't run that year

but he would have won if he had.

[iowapeacechief]

19. Or Askew or Cranston or Hart or Hollings or Jackson or McGovern...

...since we haven't even passed D.C. and Iowa and New Hampshire yet. I like the choices better this time!

[flaminbats]

30. sorry....

this poll just doesn't work for some reason.

It's nearing the end of the French Revolution, off with your head..or defeat with Napoleon?

[Printer70]

33. A- It's not 1984, B- The candidates are only superficially...

...similar. In 1984, both were lifelong Democrats. Now, that's not the case.