KansasVoter
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Fri May-22-09 01:50 PM
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LOL....Let another country hold one of our soldiers with no charges forever and see what we do! |
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I guarantee this country would freak out.
And I am sure people here will say "Well, that is different, our guys would not deserve it but their guys do!".
Remember, to the enemy, we look as evil as the terrorists do to us.
We always get away with stuff we would not put up with from other countries.
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LynnTheDem
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Fri May-22-09 02:15 PM
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1. Imagine a 8-yr old American boy being raped by guards while being held in jail |
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on no charges whatsoever.
Imagine a US soldier being tortured by say the Chinese via waterboarding...
Oh yeah, we'd sure hear the screeching of rage then.
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PassingFair
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Fri May-22-09 03:04 PM
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2. Can't compare the two...we have "soldiers" and they are "Muslins"... |
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Ya see the difference?
:sarcasm:
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Clio the Leo
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Fri May-22-09 06:23 PM
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3. Was our guy committing a war crime? |
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Or even accused of committing a war crime or otherwise in violation of the Geneva Convention?
I'm afraid you're oversimplifying things Rachel ..... I mean Kansas. ;)
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KansasVoter
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Fri May-22-09 07:17 PM
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6. OK, so the troops who broke laws, you think we would have been ok with..... |
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them holding them forever and not charging them??
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Clio the Leo
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Fri May-22-09 08:51 PM
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7. They were US citizens, subject to US laws ........ try again. ;-) NT |
ima_sinnic
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Sat May-23-09 06:21 AM
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16. we are holding citizens of other countries who are subject to their country's laws |
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we have had Australians and Brits, to name a few from what I guess some would deem "civilized" (i.e., "white" "Christian") countries. That has not stopped anything, and will not stop people from being detained without charges.
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Fri May-22-09 09:02 PM
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9. Dozens are being held by the U.S. military without even an accusation. |
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Sat May-23-09 12:31 AM
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11. A war crime like being a baker? Or a photographer? Or a teenager? |
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Was our soldier sold to their CIC? It could happen.
I'm afraid you don't know how many totally innocent people we are holding.
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leftofthedial
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Sat May-23-09 12:37 AM
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13. the Gitmo detainees are not accused of committing war crimes either. |
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In fact, irony of ironies, it is a war crime to detain them at Gitmo and torture them.
WE, not they, are accused of war crimes. The truth is even simpler than you think.
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ima_sinnic
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Sat May-23-09 06:24 AM
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17. under "preventive detention," it won't matter. They won't be charged with ANYthing |
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let alone war crimes.
By the way, "war crimes" are apparently okay now, as is violating the Geneva Conventions.
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Sun May-24-09 11:36 AM
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25. If crimes are committed we can try and convict or release. |
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The analogous situation would be if they held our men for being members of an "evil organization" like the USA.
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Fri May-22-09 06:56 PM
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4. Which country is Al Quida |
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represetative of? How many Pakistani soldiers do we have in captivity. How many Saudi soldiers do we have captivity. How many Syrian soldiers do we have in captivity. The answer is none. The people we have in captivity do not represent a country.
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Fri May-22-09 08:57 PM
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8. Iraq is a country. It's where the torture is known to have happended |
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Edited on Fri May-22-09 08:58 PM by lunatica
Abu Grahib? Do you recall that? It's a country last I heard. And none of the tortured seem to have been Al Qaeda.
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Thothmes
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Sat May-23-09 05:11 AM
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14. How many of the prisoners held at Abu Grahib |
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were prisoners of war from the Iraqi Army?
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lunatica
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Sat May-23-09 09:39 AM
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20. The iraqi army was disbanded by the US. They were never an issue |
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Sat May-23-09 05:42 PM
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23. So the answer is none. If there were no prisoners of war |
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at Abu Grhabe, the Geneva Convention does not apply.
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Fri May-22-09 07:02 PM
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5. Did our soldier/citizen declare intention to harm their country on the record? |
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If so, I wouldn't blame them. He's a POW.
So long he is not being tortured this is within the accepted rules of war.
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Fri May-22-09 11:54 PM
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10. Essentially calling al Qaeda members "soldiers" is an extreme stretch. n/t |
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Sat May-23-09 12:36 AM
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if the soldiers had brown skin and a non-protestant-Christian religion.
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Sat May-23-09 06:17 AM
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15. Why a soldier, why not anyone at random, without determining their guilt of anything |
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except being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Like for example, a traveler in the way of an occupying army.
Like being a Native American in the way of Manifest Destiny!! Or like being a person of color in the way of a racist! OPr like being a Muslim in the way of George Bush's god!
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Sat May-23-09 06:29 AM
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18. This country already flipped |
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because a dead soldier was abused. People went apeshit when the clip of that dead soldier was shown being dragged through the streets in Somalia. How do they expect other people to react when they see awful pictures of their countrymen being abused?
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Sat May-23-09 09:48 AM
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21. He (there were more than one) was not a soldier |
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He was a mercenary working for Blackwater and not a member of our military.
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Sat May-23-09 06:29 AM
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19. "soldiers"? what about tourists or aid workers who happen to be trapped in an occupation? |
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Edited on Sat May-23-09 06:30 AM by ima_sinnic
the invaders might consider them "dangerous" because they're Americans and therefore "sympathetic" to the "wrong side." They could be anybody. They could be Doctors without Borders or working for CARE or OXFAM or Heifer Intl, but as long as that country's leader deems them "a possible threat," they could be locked up and the key thrown away.
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Sat May-23-09 10:00 AM
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22. American soldiers have been decapitated and dismembered by al-Qaeda in Iraq. (links -->) |
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Edited on Sat May-23-09 10:08 AM by ClarkUSA
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Sun May-24-09 11:29 AM
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24. Well, there are the 2 women being held by the North Koreans. |
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Apparently Little Kim can keep them as long as he wants.
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