Did President Obama REALLY say America is a Muslim country? Nope

[HopeOverFear]

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/yikes-did-obama-really-call-america-a-muslim-country-nope/

With President Obama set to depart for the Mideast, many will likely jump on him today for allegedly calling America a Muslim country on French television late yesterday.

Indeed, critics are already grabbing on to the comment as it was reported in the New York Times write-up:

In an interview with Laura Haim on Canal Plus, a French television station, Mr. Obama noted that the United States also could be considered as “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” He sought to downplay the expectations of the speech, but he said he hoped the address would raise awareness about Muslims.

The Times piece is already spreading rapidly on the right. PowerLineBlog, for instance, asked: “In what possible sense can any rational person consider the United States to be a Muslim country?” But here’s what Obama actually said:

Now, the flip side is I think that the United States and the West generally, we have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam. And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.

Hard-core rhetoricians will note that Obama was employing an obscure tense known as the “conditional,” and an arcane rhetorical device known as a “hypothetical.” He said that if you were to take the number of Muslims in America, then one could see America as ranking up there with other Muslim countries — in numerical, hypothetical terms.

Sure, let’s fact-check the claim about the number of Muslims and analyze the policy implications. But come on, the man simply didn’t say America is a Muslim country. It’s going to be a long week.

[Cha]

1. Thank you so much, HopeOverFear

for this clarification in the translation.

[HopeOverFear]

3. oh don't thank me, thank the man who wrote this piece :)

I just copied and pasted it. :)

[Cha]

4. I really did think you did all

that..but, thanks for bringing it to us!

[redqueen]

2. It's going to be a long *four years*....

hopefully eight.

[4lbs]

5. The U.S. would also be one of the largest Latino countries as well then.

If about 15% of the US population is Latino, that's about 45 million people (given a US population of 300 million).

That matches the population of Columbia ( https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/co.html )

It's also more than the population of Spain ( https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/sp.html )


President Obama could have easily also said that if you took the number of Latino Americans in this country, the United States would be one of the largest Latino countries in the world.

Yeah, I'm sure the looney right won't think about that.

[HopeOverFear]

8. exactly, thanks for that post

[ieoeja]

6. Chicago has long been billed as the 2nd largest Polish city in the world.

As Chicago has more Polish people than any city in Poland except for Warsaw.

[mkultra]

7. we are #38 in muslim population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country#