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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 07:58 AM
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I wonder why Joe Scarborough didn't challenge Gene Robinson
the way he went after Paul Krugman?

After all, Robinson wrote the same thing in his column today that Paul Krugman wrote in his.

Paul Krugman, 6/12/09: Back in April, there was a huge fuss over an internal report by the Department of Homeland Security warning that current conditions resemble those in the early 1990s - a time marked by an upsurge of right-wing extremism that culminated in the Oklahoma City bombing. Conservatives were outraged. The chairman of the Republican National Committee denounced the report as an attempt to "segment out conservatives in this country who have a different philosophy or view from this administration" and label them as terrorists. But with the murder of Dr. George Tiller by an anti-abortion fanatic, closely followed by a shooting by a white supremacist at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, the analysis looks prescient.

There is, however, one important thing that the D.H.S. report didn't say: Today, as in the early years of the Clinton administration but to an even greater extent, right-wing extremism is being systematically fed by the conservative media and political establishment.
. . .

What will the consequences be? Nobody knows, of course, although the analysts at Homeland Security fretted that things may turn out even worse than in the 1990s - that thanks, in part, to the election of an African-American president, "the threat posed by lone wolves and small terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years."

And that's a threat to take seriously. Yes, the worst terrorist attack in our history was perpetrated by a foreign conspiracy. But the second worst, the Oklahoma City bombing, was perpetrated by an all-American lunatic. Politicians and media organizations wind up such people at their, and our, peril.


Gene Robinson 6/12/09: For days, some conservative commentators tried mightily to paint the memo as an underhanded attempt by the Obama administration to smear its honorable critics by equating "right-wing" with "terrorism." It made no difference to these loudmouths that the number of hate groups around the country has increased by more than 50 percent since 2000, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. It didn't matter that the memo was backed up by solid intelligence and analysis. For these infotainers, the point isn't to illuminate a subject with light but to blast it with heat.And it wasn't just the Sean Hannitys, Rush Limbaughs and Glenn Becks of the world who pretended to be outraged. Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele accused the administration of trying "to segment out Americans who dissent from this administration, to segment out conservatives in this country who have a different philosophy or view from this administration, and labeling them as terrorists.". . . . . .The thing is, though, that words have consequences.

There's profit for the pundits, and perhaps personal advantage for some politicians, in calling President Obama a "socialist" and calling Judge Sonia Sotomayor a "racist Latina" and claiming that Democrats want to "take away your guns" -- in creating and nurturing a sense of grievance among those inclined to be aggrieved. But what about those who might not understand that it's all just political theater?...What we don't know is whether all the blast-furnace rhetoric coming from the right is giving validation and encouragement to some confused, angry man or woman with a rifle or a truck full of fertilizer -- the next "lone wolf," preparing to howl.


But Scarborough took off after after Krugman, actually comparing him to Rush Limbaugh, while he yukked it up with Gene Robinson, not even mentioning Robinson's column, although Robinson's column was much harsher (he called Joe and his crowd "loudmouths!").

Could it be that Joe Scarborough is a big, but empty, bully who talks a good game about someone who's not in the room, but doesn't have the guts to confront anyone he thinks might actually stand up to him?

Hmmmm.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 08:00 AM
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1. Gene Robinson is paid msnbc analyst
they're co-workers that's why
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 08:03 PM
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21. Yes. Same reason Olberman doesn't go after Buchanan.
Buchanan would top his worst persons in the world segment about once a week if they weren't co-workers.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 08:01 AM
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2. Your conclusion is correct. (eom)
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 08:01 AM
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3. IMO you have identified Joe for what he is - a spineless loudmouth
A big talker who can't back it up.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 08:40 AM
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7. I just can't take that program anymore, even for a few minutes.
No matter when I turn it on, it's always an infomercial for his book. Is he the first person who has ever written a book?
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 08:04 AM
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4. I wondered the same thing this morning as I read Robinson's column
and read the posts here about Morning Jerk. I wondered if Jerk would call out Robinson, too. Guess Jerk knows how to stir the extremists' loins with the name 'Krugman'.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 08:55 AM
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8. I Sure Hope Not
I would like to think that it is because Robinson is a MSNBC co-employee. It is hard, though, not to wonder if you're right. It does seem to be what "they" are all about.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 08:08 AM
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5. Every time he is challenged, he runs from the "debate"...
he's a screech-monkey and a coward.

On numerous occasions, he's run from the challenges that come his way. One morning, a guest asked, "What are your answers to the problem? Do you have a solution, or are you just going to bellyache all day?"

Scarborough went to commercial, and when the show came back, Mika was sitting there by herself, Scarborough had to go change his undies or some other such thing, he couldn't take it. And that's not the first time he's run from his chair when it got too hot on the set...:D
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 08:13 AM
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6. Joe Scab is a bully and a coward. He screams everyone down or walks off the set. It's astonishing
to watch every morning. He's quite unstable.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 12:51 PM
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14. His MO is to talk over whomever disagrees w/him...
Edited on Fri Jun-12-09 12:51 PM by rasputin1952
which is just about everyone.

he is indeed a bully and as stupid as a rock. I watch from time to time simply because some of the people he has on challenge him and make him look like the fool he is...Zbigy clobbered him w/the "shallow" remark...Z hit the nail on the head, and Scuzzball looked/acted like a chastised 3 you...:rofl:
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 09:25 AM
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9. The real question is why he didn't slam Rush
the same way he slammed Krugman.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 09:58 AM
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10. Of course, Scarborough is a bully and a coward. That's why he refuses
to allow anyone to disagree with him. If they do, he filibusters the conversation so they can't get a word in.

Scarbough and his bobble-headed airbot perfectly embody the GOP -- completely void of ideas, integrity and humanity.


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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 11:07 AM
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11. Scarborough has made no secret of the fact that he loathes
Krugman. Has made disparaging remarks about him and mocked him at every opportunity. Why does this surprise you?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 11:30 AM
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12. Scarborough is a coward.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 11:43 AM
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13. As he runs from show to show promoting his book...
I always wonder as some are suppose to be debating him or interviewing him why they don't ask him what is his plan to fix the economy and how would a tax cut help the unemployed and the social cuts what would he do with the people who would become destituted and what about the ones who are already.

Also my main question is why in the hell is Mika following him to book signing and interviews do they have something going on that we don't know..
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asphalt.jungle Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 01:19 PM
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15. The same reason Keith doesn't put his wingnut MSNBC co-workers on blast
like he does with faux noise and hate radio. It's all a big game for them. WWF like Obama said.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 01:24 PM
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16. Notice that Pat Buchanan is absent. Conveniently on vacation
or????

Joe Scarborough laments the fact that he is no longer in Congress. He is prepping for another run at it, or perhaps running for President in 2012. I think he truly believes that he is the new voice of the GOP.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 02:33 PM
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17. I think they fear that, if allowed to comment on these events, Buchanan would get carried away
and blurt out some outrageously racist but heartfelt comment that they couldn't laugh off or dismiss with their usual "that's just our Pat being Pat, what a curmudgeon, but he's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet" - and they'd have to actually get rid of him, which they clearly do not want to do.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 02:45 PM
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19. That's it exactly
I was watching "Hardball" one night when Chris Matthews was getting into it with Pat Buchanan and he (Chris) looked straight into the camera and said, "We pay Pat to present the opposite viewpoint."

I agree - I don't think Pat Buchanan can control his mouth.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 02:35 PM
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18. Why didn't Dean challenge Joe? nt
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:03 PM
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20. What is up with Mika....
She has a husband and young children at home. Why would she traipse all over the country helping him peddle his stupid idiotic book after she's worked with him on cable news and talk radio all day long?

I've seen her lean in on him a thousand times and practically lay in his lap, then touch his hand and let her fingers linger there for a very long time. The way she lovingly looks at him and the way he treats her like a fish wife is some of the most curious interactions of male/female co hosts, that I've ever witnessed. Strange, very strange, but then again we're talking about mika mouse and joey scab. Anything is possible, certainly joe has a long history of marital cheating. :shrug:
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