Tax increases to pay for health care would ONLY be for families making $250,000 & up

[jenmito]

and individuals making $200,000 & up. Just saw it on MSNBC.

[Fovea]

1. Class Warfare!!!!!11!!!!

Maybe we will win a battle this time.

[lindisfarne]

2. Who was quoted? Baucus? I doubt it. I doubt there's agreement on this. And plenty of

time to change it.

[AlexanderProgressive]

3. I will respectfully decline to take your word for this

Since

1-) I do not know if you are accurately representing what you heard on MSNBC, and
2-) I do not know who the sources are for whoever made that claim.

[jenmito]

5. Kelly O'Donnell reported this is what Congress is "looking at" if ANY tax hikes n/t

[Milo_Bloom]

4. Just wish they would even it out...

Singles 125K and up... families, 250 and up.

[Bankhead_ATL]

6. I think this is what they are going to do

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. That's typically what they do.

They say the family cap because saying $125k at all makes it sound like a low cap, even when it isn't.

[vaberella]

8. Yup. WhiteHouse stated this on Ed Show last week---that's the only compromise he'd accept.

Rec
:kick:

[jenmito]

9. Thanks. Anyone who thinks Obama would tax people making less than that are

believing the RW lies.

[vaberella]

11. basically. I remember when this was brought up to WhiteHouse on the Ed Show. Transcript below:

He said only those making above the 250,000. Because he said there was no way middle class people who were paying their dues and expecting coverage, but denied it due to cost should be taxed to have it. They're already paying their dues. I have to get that video.

I found an old post of mine on this and it's dated...since I can't get the vid.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8451701


I'm sorry I couldn't find the video footage but there is a transcript.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31123906/

SCHULTZ: Senator, we should point out that the president also asked for a hardship waiver, meaning that people can‘t afford to buy insurance, they would still get covered because they would get a hardship waiver. Can you support that?

WHITEHOUSE: I think it‘s important to reach out to all Americans. As you were saying it‘s now—it has actually for a while been—the number one cause that American families go into bankruptcy is health care expense. For a lot of them, they‘re insured already. But we really have to get our arms around making sure that everyone has access to this coverage. And if they can‘t afford it, that they get support to get the care they deserve.

SCHULTZ: Are you in favor of taxing health care benefits? Could you support that?

WHITEHOUSE: It depends. If you‘ve got a CEO with you concierge health care plan that was designed for them as part of a multi-million dollar benefits package, yes, I could tax that. If you have a union member who gave away wages for years so that he could have his benefit, and now you‘re suddenly going to tax it, no, I‘m not interested in that.

I think you have a find a medium point, where you protect the people who have given up wages, have given up other things in order to have that benefit. But if you‘re taxing high-end, concierge, luxury policies and things like that, it‘s a different story. Where it falls out in the middle, I think it‘s too early to tell.

SCHULTZ: Senator, quick answer, six weeks, can you get it done, yes or no?

WHITEHOUSE: Yes.

SCHULTZ: OK, great to have you with us tonight.

[sisters6]

15. Its Sheldon Whitehouse --not the WH.

[vaberella]

16. I know who it is princess. You're not in on the running joke. n/t

[sisters6]

18. shucky darns little one.

[Cha]

17. Well, that shoots down shit I read on

DU.

[jenmito]

19. It seems like some here are all too willing

to believe RW talking points.

[Cha]

20. There should be a special

dungeon.

[Abq_Sarah]

21. Under the house plan

If you do not have insurance, you will pay a surcharge based on 2% of your AGI. I'm sure the congress will also be keen to institute other targeted taxes that we all will have to pay. They just won't call it an "income tax".

[vaberella]

24. Can you point to that in the legislation, please?

Added to that there is already talk of taxing fast food and soda and I'm 100% behind that---that form of preventative care.

[Kittycat]

10. Are they still talking about limiting access to only those making under $80K?

Because people making over that, still need access. Especially when it comes to not qualifying for private insurance due to pre-existing conditions, etc.

[quakerboy]

22. No, at last look

they were dropping that to 64k.

Welcome to the senate today.

[OhioBlue]

25. I wonder how that would work for the self-employed

say they had a good year and made over the 64k but average around 25-30k?

My b/f is self-employed. He hasn't gotten near the 64k yet - but his annual income is very sporadic.

I think a lot of the self-employed are in the no insurance category.

[Skink]

12. Our senators probably won't have to pay the tax either so what is the problem.

People that make that much and vote democratic are not going to complain.

[GodlessBiker]

13. Would that really raise enough money?

[masuki bance]

23. Good question.

[kestrel91316]

14. Works for me. I'll never make remotely that much as long as I live.

[cherokeeprogressive]

26. I have a bridge for sale, and some beachfront property in Arizona.

If you believe any statement from the Obama administration that includes the word ONLY, you're likely to buy my bridge, and believe that California is going to slide into the ocean.

But if MSNBC says it, who am I to question?