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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 09:37 AM
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Lindsey Graham told Stephanop. that he could not care less about what the public wants for health
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 09:39 AM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
Lindsey Graham quite disgusting mouthing all the usual bs about government run healthcare, rationing, bureaucrats, cost, blah blah blah. Steph than quoted a poll showing over 70% of Americans WANT a public option 56% willing to pay more in taxes. Lindsey's response (my paraphrase) "So what". He really obviously could CARE LESS about what the American public wants. I will be looking for the transcript as it was quite glaring. Senator Dodd was just ok in saying we don't have final details so we can't really be discussing the cost with any real knowledge.

Now we have the "petrified forest" roundtable discussion with George Will, Cokie Roberts and Sam Donaldson. More people whose opinion I could not care less about. Robert Reich providing a lonely oasis of reasonableness and knowing whereof he speaks.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 09:42 AM
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1. Little Lindsey is irksome. He's only a little more insightful than
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 09:46 AM by saltpoint
Cokie Roberts, and Cokie Roberts is practically worthless.

I had to bail on THIS WEEK many moons ago. If they ever decide to rehaul the Panel, I might come back as a viewer.


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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 10:23 AM
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9. I though she wsas in rehab and trying out being a lesbian....
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 11:31 AM
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15. I have no idea what Cokie is up to these days. But over the last several
years she has certainly not added one interesting insight into public discourse.

She is the ultimate drive-through journalist. My guess is were she not a famous inside-the-Beltway politician's star daughter, she would be managing a Wendy's in Baton Rouge.


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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:28 PM
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22. I was making fun of Lindsey Graham...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:55 PM
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27. WCGreen, I'm sorry if I seem a bit dense today.
You lost me at the Taco Bell drive-through.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 02:36 AM
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34. I agree Cokie hasn't added much to the discussion in about the last
15 or 20 years. I think she is very out of touch with public sentiment.

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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:55 PM
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43. Absoulutely ... her time has come to retire.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 09:00 AM
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38. They give her air time on NPR, but even there, she doesn't say anything.
She's cotton candy. All air and spin. No subtance.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:55 PM
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24. Maybe more people should bail, saltpoint,
and then they'd get the idea that their dinosaurs aren't cutting the mustard.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:58 PM
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29. Cha. Happy summertime. Yep. It may be time to hold a couple of funerals
for that Panel -- Will and Donaldson especially. And they should not be open-coffin visitations, either.


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:08 PM
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30. And, a happy summer soltice to you,
saltpoint~
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:39 PM
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26. That was a disgusting recitation of years old drivel about how
Canadians wait in line for care. He looks and sounds like a retard.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:56 PM
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28. Hi, Hieronymus. Senator Graham is not really a good go-to guy for
health care.

He's not that hot on any other issue, either, come to think of it.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 11:06 PM
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32. I wish someone would be fed up enough to out that little skank. He
needs to face the music for his evil. his state would kick him out and the congress and the country would be better off for it.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 11:34 PM
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33. Hi, roguevalley. I miss Fritz Hollings. It just feels to me as if Graham
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 11:35 PM by saltpoint
is sitting in Hollings' seat and it just never will be right.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 02:14 PM
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40. I agree. SIGH. there were good guys in congress once.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:53 PM
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42. I do too ... hypocrisy should not be acceptable.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 09:46 AM
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2. Why do they continue to have 80% Repub pundits on the MSM shows? It's SO
frustrating!!! Didn't they LOSE? We get their sorry asses on all the talk shows whether they win or lose - fair and balanced MY ASS.
I am so sick of seeing Lindsey Graham, Joe Lieberman, Newt Gingrich, and the rest of these old, white, out-of-touch fuckers I could scream!

The same damn talking points over and over for the years. Hasn't the public rejected this crap? Who is presenting a show with actual discussion between
INFORMED, critical thinkers? Nobody I've seen.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 09:53 AM
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5. Who owns the media?
The Republic Party owns the media lock, stock and barrel, It's like right out of the old Outer Limits TV show "There is nothing wrong with your television set. We are controlling transmission..."
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 10:45 AM
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11. Well, bollocks! I know you're right but it is just so annoying...
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 09:02 AM
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39. General Electric, Rupert Murdoch, The oil, nuclear and electric companies,
Disney, big pharma....
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 10:20 AM
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8. And the "Dems" are Nunn, Bayh and Feinstein.
:eyes:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 10:46 AM
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12. Yep. Why bother? The "centrist" Dems are just as bad.
Damn.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 09:46 AM
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3. The privileged have always known what's best
That's why the world is in such great shape!

Here is my salute to Lindsey and the 'petrified forest'



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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 09:48 AM
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4. "I got my publicly paid health plan, fuck you and die, peasent."
Every time I hear that REDACTED Graham I have to choke back the bile rising in my throat.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 09:57 AM
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6. We really need to demand that congress receive only basic health care.
No vision or dental either. And they can only use doctors within their district.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 10:08 AM
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7. My e-mail to good ol' boy, Lindsey.
What part of "Americans overwhelmingly want public option healthcare" do you not understand? You seem to be enjoying your public option healthcare and the American taxpayers are paying for it!! Dont you think it's time, make that long overdue, that the USA starts thinking about it's citizens? You know, the ones that sent you, and so many others like you, to DC to represent them. The basic reason that you are opposing public option healthcare is that you have been bought and paid for by the insurance companies and pharma. You don't want to lose out on those contributions from them, do you? This brings us to the basic problem of campaign contributions and the need for public financing for elections. With that there would be no need for lobbyists who wine and dine you and promise you the moon IF you do their bidding. I am so sick of "politics as usual." It's time that we do as the brave Iranian people are doing...take to the streets and demand our rights.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 11:00 AM
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13. Yet people around here are attacking Obama. Skewed priorities? nt
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 11:25 AM
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14. They Cheer Protesters In Iran - Disdain For Their Own
constituents ... considering %50 in this poll are agreeing with liberals.

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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 11:32 AM
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16. I say when he is up for re-election, we run that soundbyte over and over and over.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 02:08 PM
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17. That's exactly what I was thinking, that should be sound-byte gold. n/t
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 02:09 PM
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18. What were his exact words?
Did he say "I could care less what the public wants?"
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 03:29 PM
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21. Here are his exact words

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/06/graham-governmentrun-health-care-wont-pass-senate.html

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told me that the U.S. Senate will not "go down the government-run health care road" despite a new poll showing 72 percent of Americans want a government role in health care -- and are willing to pay higher taxes for it.

"The reason you're not going to have a government run health care pass the Senate is because it would be devastating for this country," Graham told me Sunday in an exclusive "This Week" interview.


Since he made his comments after being told that 72 percent were FOR government sponsored healthcare and that a majority (57%) were also willing to pay higher taxes for it, yes, I would say his response translates to "too bad what they want". I saw this in real time and that is what I got from his answer. He IGNORES the statistics about what Americans want. I suggest you watch the video at the link.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:05 PM
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25. The man lies like the rest of us breathe.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 02:38 AM
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35. His lies are very offensive to me. I really dislike the man for his lack of ethics and morals
particularly on this issue.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 02:45 PM
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19. I wonder if we could get someone like Bernie Sanders or
Dennis Kucinich to put up a bill removing health care as a benefit to elected officials until all Americans have access to it.
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sarah553807 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 02:55 PM
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20. Kinda like Iraq....
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:36 PM
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23. Does anyone in Congress really give a shit
About what the public wants?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:53 PM
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31. Graham was the master of FUD this morning
"Government stands between you and your doctor"

How is that worse than having a money grubbing corp stand between you and your doctor?
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 02:40 AM
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36. Government funding will enable some people to start seeing doctors, and
others to afford to continue seeing their doctors. That would not interfere with the patient doctor relationship.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:59 AM
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37. "petrified forest" roundtable discussion
That's a keeper.:hi:
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:13 PM
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41. This would make a great television ad. MoveOn? Bueller?
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