To Those Who Invoke The Phrase "Bush's Third Term"

[andyrowe]

Surely you realize that such hyperbole comes across as asinine. And rest assured, such statements are hyperbole.

Hyperbole (pronounced /haɪˈpɜrbəliː/ hye-PER-bə-lee<1>) comes from ancient Greek "ὑπερβολή" (meaning excess or exaggeration) and is a figure of speech in which statements are exaggerated. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is rarely meant to be taken literally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

You take from the causes you feel are now being unchampioned to show your ignorance of the differences between the potus and his predecessor.

Surprisingly, this kind of knee-jerk reaction from solid leftists in a backwards way helps. Sadly enough, alienating the "quite progressive" is part of what must be done in order to garner the support needed to make any sort of meaningful change that doesn't risk collapsing the precarious position we find ourselves in.

Think about it.

[PretzelWarrior]

1. assholes, all of them.

they know it. we know it.

[andyrowe]

2. Not all of them...

But more than you'd expect.

[madeline_con]

4. Some of them are nice people and lots of fun at parties, right?

:P

[andyrowe]

10. ...

hahaha!

[zbdent]

11. some of my best friends are assholes ...

"I'm surrounded by assholes!"

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

24. Pretty much all of them.

[jgraz]

3. Oh boy. Another thread on HOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING THINGS

With no comment on what they're actually saying. :eyes:

Bonus points for not understanding the meaning of hyperbole, even after you looked up the definition. (Hint: if you have to tell someone they're using hyperbole, they're not using hyperbole.)

[andyrowe]

5. I figured the title was pretty clear.

There are some who'd like to indicate that BHO is GWB 2.0

I'm taking issue with that.

And you can indicate to someone that they're using hyperbole and they could actually be using hyperbole.

I like how smug all of us are when we attempt to educate each other.

[jgraz]

6. By definition, if people are using hyperbole they are *not* indicating that BHO is GWB 2.0

That's the whole point of hyperbole. And the whole point of my post.

[andyrowe]

7. Really break it down for me.

Exactly what part of my assertion is inaccurate?

If my understanding of hyperbole is correct, stating that BHO is Shrub's third term is an exaggeration of the assertion that they are basically the same policy-wise. No?

[jgraz]

8. Here's an example from the definition you linked

Me: These books weigh a ton
You: You're being asinine. If those books actually weighed a ton you wouldn't be able to lift them.

Arguing against hyperbolic statements is a passive kind of straw man. It doesn't do anything to further the discussion.

[andyrowe]

9. I wasn't arguing against hyperbole

I actually point out that it is an important part of implementing our agenda.

BHO is a shrewd fellow and knows what he is doing by appearing to throw some segment of us under the bus.

I'm frustrated that things are going slow too.

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[vaberella]

12. I've seen that and Obama=Bush posts a lot---even in the title.

People don't care and I don't see DU as very supportive of the President...but that's just me.

[niceypoo]

13. Ive seen it twice...

...both times in titles of threads whining about critique of Obama

[frylock]

19. this isn't the special olympics..

DU was very supportive of Obama on 4 November. what I don't see is the Obama admin being very supportive of progressives or their causes... but that's just me.

[vaberella]

21. That's an unfair statement and wholly incorrect.

Do you have any idea how many progressives there are with priority lists a mile long---how is the President supposed to know which one is a priority and for whom. Every time an issue becomes a hot button topic, we come to see that the President has been working on the issue but it may not be to the fulfillment or completeness that some progressives would like.

Let's get it straight, the President is working on a lot of issues and I find that the President is meeting those demands. For some he's either not moving fast enough, being stronger on an issues, and or doing this or that. We don't know everything the president does nor do we know what he's dealing with specifically when things are addressed.

There are people that seem to think we will get full disclosure on things---anyone with a brain knows that is not the case. When a policy or something is done during the Bush admin most and the president says he'll review the issue, for them it's like if it's Bush the it's 100% incorrect. Or maybe our President is trying to understand the things that were put in place and then dismantling them rather than dismantling them and find out we have problems in future.

Do people here care about the politics or the issues that may be surrounding him and the administration after such a dirty dealer in office. No. Do the people who support Obama do not support progressive causes---HELL NO!!! However, we did hire him to do job in 4 years and I'm bloody holding him to that.

I never understood the fools who would sit there and figure out how is the President doing in 100 Days. I could give a rats ass because 100 Days, while commendable if a lot is achieved, is still too early for me to give a decision. I need to see what he's doing over time because a lot of the issues I care about most will take time to get done. I'm pretty unnerved by the people who seem to think because we support the President we're any less supportive of progressive issues.

Obviously the key thing to realize is that I hired and voted for him to clean up a mess that started about 30-40 years ago, let alone 8 years ago, he has his work cut out for him especially when most of Congress that caused a lot of the problems or enabled a lot of the issues facing the American people are still there.

[baldguy]

15. The Bush Regime upheld laws it liked, ignored those it didn't & made up others along the way.

Do we really want Obama to behave the same way?

[styersc]

16. 50,000 troops should be home, they are not. Prisoners who have

never been accused or tried for any reason are still rotting at Guantanamo (national disgrace). No one will be held accountable for torture or war crimes. GLBT community is still in the bull's eye and has no friend in the Whitehouse. Transparency was a campaign slogan but nowhere near a reality. Treasury is open to the banks and CEO's but universal health care is sinking fast.

Obama's campaign promises clearly distinguished his proposed policies from the Bush policies, but their presidencies' are remarkably similar.

[salguine]

17. How about this one?

jackass (pronounced /jak-as/) –noun 2. a contemptibly foolish or stupid person; dolt; blockhead; ass.

I'm so tired of scorn heaped on anyone who points out that Obama is, in fact, seamlessly continuing a shocking number of the previous administration's most appalling policies, like those on administration secrecy, warrantless wiretapping, retention of uncharged, untried prisoners, and war criminals are allowed to walk away scot-free and smirking.

I'm tired of the pompous, patronizing gesture of calling people ignorant for pointing out an unpleasant truth. And I especially love the assertion that I need to be alienated.

I swear, my ignore list is swelling to a previously unimaginable size. Oh well, what's one more...

jgraz, did you ever know that you're my hero?

[jgraz]

22. But am I the wind beneath your wings?

Ok, I almost made myself :puke: with that one.

[salguine]

23. I'll tell you what...you can be if you wanna, but I personally wasn't gonna carry it

that far. Let's just say "thanks, jgraz, for the sensible post."

[WI_DEM]

18. Well it's insulting to Obama because he is nothing like Bush and those who say he is are just haters

and always have been.

[styersc]

20. Talk about Republican-like.

Lump huge groups into simplistic little pigeon holes because they don't agree with you, despite being able to support those differing idfeas with facts. Geez, right out of the Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck play book.