Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Video - Kerry destroys Graham on Obama's responses this past week on Iran

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:59 PM
Original message
Video - Kerry destroys Graham on Obama's responses this past week on Iran
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 11:08 PM by karynnj
Here's the video and transcript:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/jan-june09/iran2_06-23.html

PS Why does Lindsey Graham seem to have problems with his eyes when he has to debate Senator Kerry? He had the same problem in a big pre-election debate last year.

Sample:



SEN. JOHN KERRY: Well, if I could comment on that, you know, Lindsey is simply not acknowledging what the president said. I went back and reread his statement of last week over the weekend to see whether or not I thought that, in fact, it ought to be strengthened.

And I read it. I felt that he had, in fact, said everything that was appropriate at that time about the elections, about doubts about the elections, about where our support stood, about the condemnation of the violence, as well as his hopes for the freedom and aspirations of the democracy movement. He said all that last week.

AND

SEN. JOHN KERRY:
"To ignore that this president of the United States, unlike George Bush over eight years, went to Cairo, gave a New Year's announcement to the Iranians congratulating them on the New Year, has already initiated major initiatives involving himself in their lives and hopes and aspirations, to ignore that this president went to Cairo and gave a speech that reverberated into the elections of Lebanon and clearly has inspired a younger generation to already seek some of the things they're doing today is just to kind of set up something that is absolutely unnatural, not real, and kind of knock it down.

This president did what he had to do in terms of stating America's hopes and aspirations for the region, for Iran specifically, for democracy, and he is carefully calibrating what he has to say and do now in order to act like a statesman, not the leading political voice of the United States."


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:07 PM
Response to Original message
1. Exactly what Kerry said.."there's a difference
between statesmanship and politics and Pres Obama has to be statesman and the leader of our nation in terms of foreign policy."


"SEN. JOHN KERRY: Well, if I could comment on that, you know, Lindsey is simply not acknowledging what the president said. I went back and reread his statement of last week over the weekend to see whether or not I thought that, in fact, it ought to be strengthened.

And I read it. I felt that he had, in fact, said everything that was appropriate at that time about the elections, about doubts about the elections, about where our support stood, about the condemnation of the violence, as well as his hopes for the freedom and aspirations of the democracy movement. He said all that last week."

That's what Obama was telling the rwinged talking point reporters today, too.

Kerry does have a straight to the heart of the matter way of stating the facts.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Here is some information on the SFRC roundtable on Iran Kerry spoke of
All stolen from my friend, luftmenscho67's post on DU JK:


IRAN AT A CROSSROADS?
ROUNDTABLE
before the

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS
UNITED STATES SENATE
ONE HUNDRED ELEVENTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION
Wednesday, June 24, 2009
Time: 11:00 A.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Building
Presiding: Senator Kerry


Guests:
+Guests to be announced…





Senate Foreign Relations Committee To Hold Roundtable: “Iran at a Crossroads?”

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry (D-MA) today announced that on Wednesday, June 24nd at 11:00 a.m. in Room 216 of the Hart Senate Office Building, the Committee will hold an on-the-record roundtable entitled “Iran at a Crossroads?” to discuss the ongoing crisis in Iran and options for U.S. foreign policy going forward.

“We are inspired by all Iranians who seek a more respectful, cooperative relationship with the world,” said Chairman Kerry. “I hope that this roundtable can help to shed light on a complex society facing an historic crossroads. We need to find the right way forward for American foreign policy, encouraging progress without empowering hard-liners who want to dismiss protesters as an American fifth column.”

The roundtable format allows participating Senators to come from behind the dais and join the guests at tables in the Committee room. It is designed to permit greater interaction between the Committee members and the guests and to encourage a candid exchange of ideas. Innovative thinkers are assembled for a free-flowing discussion on issues of vital importance, with members encouraged to probe, ask questions, and voice their own opinions. In order to make these sessions a vehicle for public education and spur a wider debate, the roundtables will be conducted on-the-record, be open to the public and the press, and transcribed for future reference.

Who: Karim Sadjadpour is an associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

Hooman Majd is an Iranian-American author and journalist.

Michael Singh is the Ira Weiner fellow at The Washington Institute and former senior director for Middle East affairs on the National Security Council (NSC).

Mehdi Khalaji is a senior fellow at The Washington Institute, focusing on Iranian politics as well as the politics of Shiite groups in the Middle East.

What: Roundtable

When: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 at 11:00 a.m.

Where: 216 Hart Senate Office Building

*** The hearing will webcast at www.foreign.senate.gov<http://www.foreign.senate.gov >.





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Biographies from googling - of unknown quality - but they show this is a diverse group of Iranians
Karim Sadjadpour

Karim Sadjadpour is an associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. He joined Carnegie after four years as the chief Iran analyst at the International Crisis Group based in Tehran and Washington, D.C. A leading researcher on Iran, Sadjadpour has conducted dozens of interviews with senior Iranian officials, and hundreds with Iranian intellectuals, clerics, dissidents, paramilitaries, businessmen, students, activists, and youth, among others.

He is a regular contributor to BBC World TV and radio, CNN, National Public Radio, and PBS NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, and has written for the Economist, Washington Post, New York Times, International Herald Tribune, and New Republic.

Frequently called upon to brief U.S. and EU officials about Middle Eastern affairs, he has testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, given lectures at Harvard, Princeton, and Stanford Universities, and has been the recipient of numerous academic awards, including a Fulbright scholarship.

Sadjadpour was named a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum in Davos, and is a board member of the Banu Foundation, an organization dedicated to assisting grass-roots organizations that are empowering women worldwide. He has lived in Latin America, Europe, and the Middle East.


http://www.carnegieendowment.org/experts/index.cfm?fa=e...

Hooman Majd - from his biography, he is an interesting and not obvious choice.


Hooman Majd is a writer based in New York. He has written for GQ, the New York Times, The New Yorker, the New York Observer, Salon and is a contributing editor at Interview.

He often writes on Iranian affairs, and travels regularly to Iran. He has also served as an advisor and translator for two Iranian presidents, Mohammad Khatami and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, on their trips to the United States and the United Nations, and has written about those experiences.

Hooman Majd has also had a long career as an executive in the music and film businesses. He was Executive VP of Island Records, where he worked with a diverse group of artists including U2, The Cranberries, Tricky and Melissa Etheridge; and Head of Film and Music at Palm Pictures, where he executive-produced James Toback’s “Black and White” and Khyentse Norbu’s “The Cup” (Cannes 1999).

Majd has had his short fiction published by Serpent’s Tail (London) and Bald Ego (New York). His non-fiction book on Iran, "The Ayatollah Begs To Differ", was published by Doubleday in the Fall of 2008.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hooman-majd

Michael Singh, was in the Bush administartion working for Powell and Rice

Michael Singh is the Ira Weiner fellow at The Washington Institute and former senior director for Middle East affairs on the National Security Council (NSC).

At the White House, Mr. Singh was responsible for devising and implementing strategies on a wide range of Middle East issues, from the Arab-Israeli peace process, to supporting Lebanon's Cedar Revolution, to the efforts to prevent Iran's acquisition of nuclear weapons capability. He served in the NSC for three years, as senior director for Middle East affairs and as director for Iran and for Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, and North Africa. Previously, Mr. Singh served as special assistant to secretaries of state Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell and was staff assistant to then ambassador Daniel Kurtzer at the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv. After nearly eight years in the foreign service, Mr. Singh left government in August 2008.

As the Ira Weiner fellow, Mr. Singh contributes to The Washington Institute's research and editorial review process, offering advice and counsel to the organization's professional research staff and participating in the public debate over the direction and content of U.S. Middle East policy. He is a regular contributor to ForeignPolicy.com's feature blog "Shadow Government".


Here in an interesting piece he wrote before the election on possible results of the election - http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/06/11/will_i...

Mehdi Khalaji

Mehdi Khalaji is a senior fellow at The Washington Institute, focusing on Iranian politics as well as the politics of Shiite groups in the Middle East. A Shiite theologian by training, Mr. Khalaji has also served on the editorial boards of two prominent Iranian periodicals and produced for the BBC as well as the U.S. government's Persian news service.

From 1986 to 2000, Mr. Khalaji trained in the seminaries of Qom, the traditional center of Iran's clerical establishment. There he studied theology and jurisprudence, earning a doctorate and researching widely on modern intellectual and philosophical-political developments in Iran and the wider Islamic and Western worlds. In Qom, and later in Tehran, Mr. Khalaji launched a career in journalism, first serving on the editorial board of a theological journal, Naqd va Nazar, and then the daily Entekhab. In addition to his own writing, he has translated the works of the humanist Islamic scholar Muhammad Arkoun.

In 2000, Mr. Khalaji moved Paris where he studied Shiite theology and exegesis in the Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes. He also worked for BBC Persian as a political analyst on Iranian affairs, eventually becoming a broadcaster for the Prague-based Radio Farda, the Persian-language service of the U.S. government's Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. At Radio Farda, he produced news, features, and analysis on a range of Middle Eastern, Iranian, and Islamic issues.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Thanks, karyn..we're really
fortunate to have Kerry in his position helping Obama and us..another man who should have held the office of president of the USA.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Kerry is clearly already one of the best Chairs of the SFRC - even though he has held the position
for about 6 months.

If you haven't seen any of his round tables, they are excellent. he does a great job moderating in a light way to get the experts to engage each other and dig into issues - resulting in hearings of unusual depth.

In addition, Kerry has been an asset to Obama in creating an opening in Syria, visiting Gaza - a big deal in the Arab countries, and engaging all the Arab leaders at the Jordan Economic summit
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #13
21. Good for us and I'm hoping Kerry
and Teresa are having the times of their lives!

Thank you, I looked that up..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Committee_on_Foreign_Relations
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. They might well be having the time of their lives
Edited on Wed Jun-24-09 11:13 AM by karynnj
Teresa went with her husband to Gaza, Syria, Israel, Lebanon, and I think Jordan on that trip. She also went with him to Pakistan and to Sudan (including Darfur) and to China, where he went to meet with people on global warming.

There was an article in the WP that spoke of the Kerrys having a long dinner with the leader of Syria and his wife and that being the start of a conversation that continued and led to the breakthrough the Obama administration had that might lead to a re-establishment of relations, but at least restarted people talking. In Sudan, he also were able to accomplish getting aid restored to the level it was before some aid workers were expelled and to get a commitment for talks to start with our envoy, the rebels and the government. I can't help but believe that Teresa's presence did help in those situations.

At the Jordan conference, he spoke of how to go to Gaza he could not take his security, he and Teresa went just with the UN. It was also clear that his going there - just as a high official to see the damage - meant a lot in the middle east.

Not to mention - yesterday, in addition to this serious interview, Tay Tay posted that he was at the Boston Red Soxs game!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #22
23. I just knew it!
But, in your relating..Did you mean "Teresa's presence did help in those situations" :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #23
24. Oops - that was a huge mistake!
I had edited a complicated sentence and completely messed it up. It was amazing in 2004 to see on some videos, Kerry's face light up and noticeably relax whenever Teresa entered one of the events he was at. He just seemed happier whenever she was there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #24
25. Thanks for keeping us so
well informed..it's a Delight to keep track of Kerry via his knowledgeable supporters on DU.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. Kerry did great work on Syria, which has now paid the ultimate dividend:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/23/US.syria.ambassador/index.html

U.S. to send ambassador back to Syria

No mention of Kerry's tireless work in the article, sadly.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:07 PM
Response to Original message
2. Way to go Kerry!!! n/t
:fistbump:

:yourock:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #2
16. Love me some Kerry nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #16
29. Me too. He totally owned Graham here. K&R for the Senator! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:13 PM
Response to Original message
3. He called out the posers.
And it's interesting. Only the politicians are throwing their barbs and a couple of pundits. The vast majority of experts, of people who really live and breathe Iranian policy, are all saying that the president has calibrated this correctly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. and Graham gave some feel good answer to that
these people are so stupid, i'm soooooooooooooo glad they are not in power.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. I swear I just posted the same thing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 07:18 AM
Response to Reply #9
20. His answer was beyond sickening
and, in fact, he made Kerry's case, not his own. Kerry said that this was an Iranian moment to be led by Iranians. The woman, who died died for her Iranian cause - not McCain's and Graham's view of how the rest of the world had to accept our values. Many women, just like Neda, would have died - but anonymously - had McCain's threats to bomb Iran ever come true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:18 PM
Response to Original message
5. Truly wonderful, as usual.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:19 PM
Response to Original message
7. Bookmarked, and thanks. Sen. Kerry is just a perfect man to
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 11:29 PM by babylonsister
back up our president. Smart, steadfast, it's a great relationship. And destroying Graham would be worth it.

No one will ever see what Lindsay is made of, because I've never heard an original thought from him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:20 PM
Response to Original message
8. worth it just to see Graham's face while Kerry is speaking
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:22 PM
Response to Original message
11. i'm glad Kerry put emphasis on the Cairo speech and Lebanon elections
i wish more people would do that.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #11
17. I agree
especially as the Republicans and neo-cons have tried to claim that part of the credit was their action - though as JK pointed out. Bush's action led to a pro-democracy president being replaced by the current guy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:37 PM
Response to Original message
14. Kick
:kick: :patriot:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Nice to see you, thanks
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #15
31. No problem.
Nice to see you too. :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 06:36 AM
Response to Original message
18. do a google search for "Kerry Khatami"
and a bunch of right wing crap attacking Kerry for meeting with the "enemy" will come up.

but now they are claiming to be on the side of the protestors which is the Khatami side.

wasn't Khatami serving as President when BUsh referred to Iran as the "axis of evil" ?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. Yep - and Romney, actually denied state police protection to Khatami
Edited on Wed Jun-24-09 07:26 AM by karynnj
when Khatami spoke in Boston. Khatomi was MORE prodemocracy than Mousvari, who was a hardliner when he was in office.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 01:31 PM
Response to Original message
26. Lindsay Graham's own worst enemy is .... Lindsay Graham.
He was actually smirking at points, which made me think he knew he was losing and oh well!! Maybe he and JK went out for a beer afterwards. I sensed no animosity between them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 01:52 PM
Response to Original message
28. Graham gets the first word, Graham gets the last word in the interview and you will rarely hear
Judy Woodruff interrupt; the Republican when they're making a dynamic point, it almost always happens when a Democrat is in the process of doing so.


"The fact is, this tough rhetoric, the rhetoric that inserts the United States in the middle of this, has been tried. We saw eight years of it. And you know where we went from? We went from a president of Iran who believed in a dialogue between civilizations and in dealing with the problem of Israel to a president who denounced everything the United States did, denied the Holocaust, and condemned and talked about the annihilation of Israel.

We went from a president of Iran who was ready to engage on Iran's nuclear program to one who asserted the rights of Iran to simply go ahead and build a program. In other words, we went backwards as a consequence of the kind of rhetoric that Lindsey is talking about. We also cannot ignore the history of Iran. In Iran..."

JUDY WOODRUFF: Let me -- let me -- I'm going to interrupt you there and ask Senator Graham just to comment on what you just said.

Thanks for the thread, karynnj.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. Very true
Edited on Wed Jun-24-09 03:44 PM by karynnj
But, Graham NEEDED moderator interference in his favor or he would have been completely shown to have many 1/100 th of the intelligence and understanding Kerry had. Kerry was also really great at dominating the conversation anyway. Graham simply was repeating shallow slogans - and claiming this huge change in Obama's position - which Kerry showed by listing (using his fingers to kind of make it like bullet points) all the main things Obama said last week, east described concisely and simply.

I think his eye problem showed how nervous he was, while Kerry, though serious, likely loved what he was doing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 10:20 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC