I Just Maxed Out for Clark, and Next Week I'm Sending $100 to Kucinich

[DoveTurnedHawk]

I've committed to a fundraiser with Gert Clark, a "Comics for Clark" event here in Los Angeles, another Clark house party, and one other event which shall remain nameless.

Next week, I am going to start donating money to Dennis Kucinich, a man who I think really represents the "heart" of the Democratic Party, and who I have deep respect for. Even when he's gone after Clark a couple of times, I think he's done it for principled reasons.

Maybe Dennis will surprise us all, but even if he doesn't, his message is one that needs to be heard all the way through the primaries: he is providing a necessary, HONEST voice that TRULY represents the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party.

DTH

[Jack_Dawson]

1. Good work DTH, but

now you can't go to any of those $100/head fundraisers with Gert.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

3. Well, I'm Going to the One I Committed To

Beyond that, I guess I'll have to live with it. :D Oh well, my absence will be someone else's gain, since all of these events have been selling out at that dollar amount!

DTH

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

62. Smart - keep Kucinich in so his fans don't go to Dean

As a Kucinich fan, I can't imagine why any of us would support someone like Dean, but the Dean team certainly hopes to get our 5%.

[wryter2000]

2. Good for you

The dh would kill me if I spent that much on candidates.

[Closer]

4. Wesley Clark

and Dennis Kucinich?

You're really conflicted huh?

The two most polar opposite canididates in the race, from left to right.

[FrenchieCat]

16. That's what you say....

however, under close inspection......they are closer than say....Dean and Kucinich....that's for sure.

Clark and kucinich are not polar opposite! Remember Rock the VOte.....heck they almost looked like brothers.

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[ThirdWheelLegend]

23. true true

TWL

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. Clark and Kucinich are VERY closely

aligned on the issues. The 2 most liberal candidates in the race! :eyes:

[ClarkGraham2004]

22. He donated to Kucinich and Dean?

I thought he donated to Clark and Kucinich.

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[MuseRider]

5. Hey, thanks!

He is an honest voice and those of us who can't send $100.00 really appreciate those who can and do. I send mine in little drabs but it all helps the cause.

[Zomby Woof]

6. why thank you!

You are generous and fair, and I appreciate your support of DK! :hi:

[DoveTurnedHawk]

14. One of the Reasons I'm Donating To Kucinich Is Because of You, ZW

I respect what you've done, both in boosting Dennis and in spreading the ZombyTroof about certain other candidates who shall remain nameless.

Man...if anyone saw us go at each other a few months ago, I'm sure they would find our current lovefest hard to believe. :D

DTH

[Zomby Woof]

26. Despite my sometimes irascible nature

I never hold grudges, and I keep one eye on the big picture.

Thanks DTH, I am truly humbled I motivated you in some way, and will work even harder to do well by DK's name here, and where it's really important - out there! :-)

[VolcanoJen]

57. Watching you guys go at it was utter agony, honestly.

The fact that you two have found a way to "kiss and make up" is an amazing, inspirational turn of events that ought to serve as an example of the way we all might actually pull the fuck together in the general election.

I'm pretty blown away over here. We might get out of this primary season alive, after all. :-)

Beers for you two!!

[Zomby Woof]

61. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmbeeeeeer!

I have long maintained that with all the present acrimony, this too, shall pass. I have been a political junkie for a long time, and I regret personalizing that which should have remained business (uh oh, smells vaguely like 'The Godfather'!). It takes work to put aside the emotions tied to a candidate and remain objective and cordial - but it CAN be done. Grudges CANNOT be held onto if peace is to prevail.

It is my hope that everyone on DU who has been at odds, for whatever reason - primaries or favorite baseball teams ;-) - buries the hatchet in a bucket of concrete, and dumps it out into the middle of the ocean to be forgotten forever.

Now, I'll have that beer! :toast: :beer: :yourock:

[TahitiNut]

63. "Leave the gun. Take the cannolis." (Words to live by.)

:silly:

[Clark Can WIN]

65. irascible

Damn, that's almost worthy of a Wes Clark word of the day!:toast:

[dpbrown]

45. Hey, you two. Get a room!

Just kidding.

Nice work, ZW.

I haven't had anyone tell me I helped convince them yet. I guess I'm all irascible, then.

;-)

[diamondsoul]

7. DTH, you are one of my favorite DU

people, and now I know why. Thanks for your help and support and may the best man win.(gads I'd love it if they teamed up!):toast:

:yourock:

[JohnKleeb]

8. You already donated than more than I have to my fave campaign lol

Hey though thats only because I am a poor sucker, and my parents had to do it. Thanks DTH, its appreciated, who knows maybe Dennis will pull a suprise in Iowa. Its nice to see that you can kinda support and respect two candiates. I've have that before honest, and am kinda having it again.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

17. Ah, Shit John, I Just Realized How My Post Could Be Taken

I feel embarrassed now, I'm not trying to brag or anything.

John, you really do so much good for Dennis Kucinich, it's not at all the money that counts, it's the message. Kucinich himself should be powerful testimony to that fact.

DTH

[JohnKleeb]

28. not my fault I am poor dude :)

Of course it isnt about money.

[imhotep]

9. How condescending

donating to Kucinich out of guilt.

[Catch22Dem]

11. You're not serious are you

The ignore feature is entirely dependent on your answer here.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

15. I Love the Ignore Feature

It is very helpful. I often don't even see the outrageous smears that are sometimes leveled my way. :D

DTH

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[jonnyblitz]

27. LOL

:)

[Jerseycoa]

50. My Ignore feature

has taken on new meaning tonight. I want the madness out of my life. Period.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. What an assinine thing to say.

I swear SOME people must be taking RUDE pills. That was just obnoxious. :puke:

[diamondsoul]

35. Bugger off his thread. n/t

[Catch22Dem]

10. This is why I love DTH

Truly. Man or woman, I don't care what DTH is. What a great person.

[redqueen]

12. Thank you!!!!

I'm glad to hear you're doing this, it will be used well and wisely!

Bless you for being so generous. :D

[blm]

13. Thankyou!!!!!

More than a few of us from the Kerry camp have been doing the same for quite awhile. Hopefully more will join us.

[ClarkGraham2004]

20. You maxed out for a real winner, DTH.

You're a good man.




www.clark04.com

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[Printer70]

42. Sorry Mr. 10 Post

I guess you've been here long enough to even remember the discussions that were had on the war.

[ClarkGraham2004]

30. You've been alerted.

I advise you to change your tone.

[Printer70]

43. I'm telling mommy!

For what? The subtext is that Clark supports the war and people who can read between the lines know that. He knows he can't say that during the Dem primary which is why he changed his tune after his political consultants pulled him aside. Sorry you can't handle the truth.

[bicentennial_baby]

31. She?

You obviously know DTH soooo well... :eyes:

[JohnKleeb]

34. I was thinking the same

I always thought DTH was a dude. Thanks again though.

[bicentennial_baby]

36. Hi John!!

How are you? Are you back in school yet?

[JohnKleeb]

yep been back in school for 4 days now

[bicentennial_baby]

41. Cool

I go back to college at the end of the month, so I'm still in "sleepin in" mode :P

[diamondsoul]

38. ROTFL

and your posts have been full of love and support for Kucinich at all.....in what universe?!

Yes, Kucinich and Clark and their supporters share much in common, apparently to your sorrow. Too bad...now BUGGER OFF HIS THREAD!

[Catch22Dem]

49. alerted

You don't "call out" another DUer. It's in the rules. Check them out.

[Shakespeare]

32. I'm stunned at a couple of the responses here.

DTH - first of all, you ROCK for spreading the wealth around. Your generosity is a beautiful thing to see, and I think it goes quite well with your overall tone of unity. It IS possible to support one candidate without tearing down all the others.

As for the creeps who couldn't resist trashing you for it--I'll paraphrase Jesus be saying that, verily, they have their reward.

Guess somebody's always gotta throw a turd in the punchbowl... :eyes:

[curse10]

33. Awesome DTH!

It's nice to see people sharing the wealth and knowing it's a-okay to like more than one candidate at once!

[_NorCal_D_]

39. Great!

Kucinich has always been my #2 candidate. Perhaps I will donate to him as well ( when I get some cash that is. B-) )

[DoveTurnedHawk]

40. Thanks for All of Your Kind Words

I think it's really important to stand up for what -- or who -- you believe in. Whether it's money or time, I hope you consider doing the same for your chosen candidate. Even if it's the one candidate I truly detest in this race. :-)

DTH

[xultar]

44. I like DK also DTH n/t

[VolcanoJen]

46. Thank You, DTH, For Putting Your Money Where Your Mouth Is!!

And special thanks for supporting my fellow Buckeye, Dennis Kucinich!!

I'm close to maxing out on Clark (is it $2,000 per candidate, or $2,000 total?), and would like very much to follow your example with the rest of my Dem candidates donation budget. I'm leaning Kucinich, with Edwards a close second (the Hugh Shelton thing threw me for a loop, but he was my early candidate-of-choice, and a big smooshy soft spot remains within my heart for the defender of the working person, and gentle Senator from North Carolina!).

Timing is to be considered, too... if there's a real potential to max out, am I better off holding my donations until near the end, when the candidate really, really needs a boost? Or do I go all-or-nuthin'?

:-)

Again, thanks for sharing your generosity and good news, DTH!!

- JenJen :-)

[Zomby Woof]

52. I've got your answers, Jen

And I am not just helping you because you are leaning toward DK either. ;-)

My research repeatedly says that the $2000 limit from an individual is per candidate, and then per campaign. The primary and general election campaigns are separate and you can start new donations when the primaries are over and the nominee is chosen and running for the general.

But here is a chart for more info:

http://www.opensecrets.org/basics/law/index.asp

[VolcanoJen]

55. That is such great information and news, ZW!

I like to consider myself a rather clever girl, but I honestly thought it was $2,000 total, not $2,000 per candidate!

Following the great example of this thread, and your info, I'm off to give my fellow Buckeye Dennis Kucinich a little love. :-)

[Zomby Woof]

59. Woohoo!

:yourock:

Thanks Jen! Way to go, O-hi-o! :D

[MercutioATC]

47. Kudos for the contributions, but I have a slight issue with your statement

that Kucinich represents "the "heart" of the Democratic Party".

I completely agree that Dennis has a message that needs to be heard, but he's CLEARLY to the far left of the Democratic Party. If your definition of a "Democrat" is a far-left liberal, then, I guess that works. My definition tends to be slightly more center-driven...

[Mairead]

60. Most human hearts are to the left of center

Physically and metaphorically

[LWolf]

48. Thank you, DTH!

It is greatly appreciated.

:hug:

[salin]

51. While I haven't chosen a candidate - or maxed out... I have donated to

four different campaigns. I haven't read all the posts on this thread - a cursory glance showed some discussions going in other ways.

I believe very much that there are different voices in this campaign that have contributions to the overall dialogue that are important - even if those candidates do not end up with the nomination. One of those I have donated to - is Kucinich - for much the same reasons that you have stated. I believe he speaks to democratic ideals - that have become less mainstream than there were a number of years ago. He is now perceived more radical - while 20 years ago he would have just seemed a bit left leaning of the mainstream. If he does decently in some of the primaries it will go a long way towards ending the complete marginalization - even within congress of folks like the late Senator Wellstone. That is important.

I have recently been tempted to give to yet another candidate - for similar reasons (wanting the voice to stay in a while longer).

I have been impressed that compared to the runup to the 2002 midterms - there have been more liberal voices. And the large field has forced the media to cover those voices. Three months ago, I ran across few folks around here who knew who any of the candidates were; that has changed significantly. I am in a late primary state - and have lived here during other elections - and there was not this level of awareness in the past. While the corporate media is not our friend - it has been forced to give us some coverage. That has led to more people having at least a passing awareness of the candidates and issues. This is good.

Good on you for this decision - and I hope that others see beyond the candidate wars and can get the point that you are making. It is a good one.

[Nashyra]

53. I will be maxed out by the time I return from NH

Can't wait. I hope I will be working 24 hours a day while I'm there. Should be exciting the night of the 27th. Leaving on the 22nd.

[Zomby Woof]

54. ZombyKick

[TexasSissy]

56. Why don't you just give $ to the Dem. Party, if you don't want

to support someone in particular?

[TakebackAmerica]

58. Great Job, DTH!

Clark and Kucinich are so alike in many ways. Go Clark/Kucinich!

[RandomUser]

64. Clark/Kucinich

I could support that ticket. :)

[exotrip]

68. Clark/Kucinich

I would be thrilled with that ticket. Think about it, 8 years of Clark and then a K Presidency! We could erase the 10 years of Repub damage!

[Zomby Woof]

66. ZombyDKick

[eileen_d]

67. I have also donated to both campaigns - Clark and Kucinich

I am not financially able to donate any more for a while. But I like them both, for different but not incompatible reasons.

Thanks DTH :toast: