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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 02:07 PM
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So how's Obama doing? Given the mess he inherited, and by comparison: excellent




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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 02:12 PM
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1. Bottom half of the pack
About the same as Shrub? Biggest drop from May to June of any of them?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 02:18 PM
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2. "About the same as Shrub?" And Clinton, near Reagan...
Edited on Sat Jul-11-09 02:18 PM by ProSense
Boo hoo.



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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:56 AM
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13. Its important to remember that the media was not 24/7 as it is today
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 07:57 AM by Jennicut
Maybe only Shrub had that. Clinton and Poppy had CNN to deal with but it was the early stages.

And Reagan dropped sharply later on. In fact by the time he was at the end of his second term he was at 41%. http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1192

Poppy Bush was extremely high after the Gulf War and dropped sharply with the economy and we all know what happened to his son.

In fact, none of the Presidents from the 80's until now beat Eisenhower and Kennedy. And I doubt we will ever have Presidents with approval ratings that high ever again. We have changed too much as a country and are too partisan for that to ever happen again.
The key for Obama is if his ratings remain stable over time.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:27 AM
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3. Considering the fucked up Corporate media we currently have,
that's damn good!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:30 PM
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16. Yeah, and it shows to
me that the People are not believing what they hear on corporatemedia anymore..it must suck to be them.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:48 AM
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4. so, I guess since Bush pere holds the record for highest
approval rating (89%), that makes him the best President we've ever had...
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:14 AM
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5. I miss 'ole W. I mean he was the worst president ever, but he was still better then Obama.
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 02:45 AM by ChimpersMcSmirkers
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:38 AM
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14. it's his Dad that's being refered to
the point being that approval ratings are not much use as an indicator for the success of a Presidency.

maybe if you were a little less interested in posting snark you would have gotten that.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:18 AM
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6. My grades
A on Foreign policy and a C on domestic policy.

Hopefully he wakes up to the fact that Geithner and Summers need to go before it is too late.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:06 PM
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17. My grades A on foreign policy, B on domestic
Geithner must stay.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:42 AM
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7. It'll be funny when fall comes. We'll be hearing "zomg!!! Bush's approval was soooo much higher!!"
:rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:11 AM
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8. You mean, AB?
After the Bullhorn?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:24 AM
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9. Goes to show these approval numbers are meaningless at this point.
Obama success will depend on how the economy goes in the next three years.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:38 AM
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11. Approval ratings from a voting public...
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 07:38 AM by Orsino
...that took Reagan and the Bushes seriously? Not meaningless--all too horribly significant.

But I think I get your point. I don't believe that Obama's success will be measured by approval ratings, which show mainly what the media tells people to think.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:39 AM
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10. Why was Bill Clinton so low after seven months?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:46 AM
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12. First off, it was a 3 way election. Then DADT. Travelgate. His stimulus never passed.
He had a real rocky start but emerged 8 years later very popular.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:45 AM
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15. Clinton had a stimulus plan?
I do know he got his budget passed (in August of that year, actually) that rescinded the Reagan tax cuts for the wealthy (without a single Republican vote, btw), something that hurt him in the polls and hurt a lot of the Democrats who voted for it. It was the right thing to do and an act of real political courage, something the current Congress and Admin. have shown a real lack of when it comes to the Bush tax cuts...
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 07:43 AM
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19. He surely did have a stimulus plan, it was pretty much killed in a filibuster
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/22/us/gop-senators-prevail-sinking-clinton-s-economic-stimulus-bill.html
He only got unemployment benefits out of it passed. It was dinky by today's standards but then the economy was only in a recession. And yes, I forgot the rescinding of the taxes on the wealthy. I am sure that hurt him too.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:40 AM
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18. There are some disturbing signs, and I mean major disturbing signs
Obama compromised too much on economic policy, blundered into an expanded war in Afghanistan, betrayed supporters of Single Payer, and is about to lose the Left on account of his duplicitous Latin America policies.

This poll assumes too much and it is too early.
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