Birthers are a threat to national security

[Clintonista2]

After the murder of Dr.tiller, can anyone deny this? The murder of Tiller was caused by a right wing culture that fundamentally believes that abortion is murder, and thus it is justifiable to kill doctors such as Tiller. Birthers are basically the same. They fundamentally believe that the executive branch of government has been taken over by some sort of foreign sleeper spy. Any rational person would laugh at such a charge, but that's what makes them so dangerous -- they aren't rational people. When you mix psycotic irrationality, with dangerous personalities (of which there is an abundance of on the right), you get Scott Roeder.


I hope the secret service is keeping a watchful eye on the birthers, because you can bet more than one domestic terrorist will come out of this.

[ksoze]

1. Most are sad sacks sitting in their pajamas staring at a PC screen

and using their tobacco stained fingers to type anonymous crap that they would never say in public. Clearly, some are actually mentally unstable enough to go public and work themselves up with court cases and the like, but I think most latch on to this issue as a way to placate their general hate for anything not republican. The internet has created a parallel world for many to live in where they can vent and display suppressed feelings behind the veil of an IP address. Then they go back to work, kids, etc. and save their hidden idiocy for living vicariously through their on-line aliases.

[Window]

6. I hear you, but it only takes one lone mentally deranged nut. These people are frightening.

n/t

[Lasher]

2. I know what you mean.

I almost laughed myself to death when I got their last eamil.

[Adelante]

3. I think they are

At the farthest extreme we had von Brunn at the Holocaust Museum:

http://www.alan.com/2009/06/10/james-w-von-brunn-from-bigot-to-birther/

Birthers are calling for violent revolution and military coups and political assassination as an every day thing now. They grow closer and close to right wing extremist rhetoric, tactics and groups.

If you look at the tactics and language employed by the Birther movement and review the tactics and language of the Sovereign Citizen movement, you can tell right away where this is all going.

http://www.adl.org/Learn/ext_us/SCM.asp?xpicked=4&item=20

There are connections to the Republic of Texas group, as well, whose members plotted to assassinate Bill Clinton.

This is why I disagree with those DUers who want to see discussion of Birthers off the board. I think, despite how ridiculously they behave, and how much fun I have ridiculing them, there is a very dangerous underside to the game they are playing. At the very least they work to destroy the Obama presidency, which is enough for me to take seriously, but the associations developing with violent wingers makes it critical that we watch the roaches very closely.

Somebody said "Shine the light on them" - I agree, leaving them to scurry around in the dark, so we don't have to look at them, only lets them grow into a larger organization. Calling them out wherever we see them, and with facts, showing innocents who are stumbling on this creepiness the true story; making sure the media has the information it needs to expose them; laughing them off the stage of public opinion; and making sure the government knows what they are up to -- this is how we can fight the enemy, whether they are the "Paper Terrorists" described at the link above or much worse.

This is what happened to the Georgia newspaper after they published their first story about Major Cook's court date.

It became obvious Tuesday morning that the story, which was published on page A3 of that day’s newspaper, had taken on a life of its own.

Between 9 a.m. and 10 a.m., there were 62,140 unique yearly visitors to the newspaper’s Web site, said the ledger-enquirer.com’s top Web editor, Jeff Hendrickson. During the same time period a week earlier, ledger-enquirer.com had 864 unique yearly visitors — that is, users who had not clicked on the site in the previous 12 months.

By the end of the day, nearly a half million new readers came to the newspaper’s Web site. There were 712,251 page views — more than seven times a normal daily volume.

Earlier that morning, Hendrickson began the customary practice of offering the story to various news sites that link such stories to broader audiences. The Drudge Report picked it up, placing it in a prominent spot on its home page. That accounted for nearly 84 percent of the traffic to the Ledger-Enquirer’s site.

Executive Editor Ben Holden worried over the threatening tone of the bulk of the hundreds of emails and phone calls to the newspaper, saying, “The chatter had the feel of a righteous cause — almost a religious cause — because some people hate this president.” He took the precaution of alerting authorities.

Local law enforcement took the threat seriously, said Brad Hicks, the city’s director of Homeland Security. Thursday morning for Cook’s hearing, security around the courthouse — which is located two blocks from the newspaper’s offices — was tight.

At least five public safety agencies, including the Columbus Police Department, Phenix City Police Department, Muscogee County Sheriff’s Office and Columbus Fire and Emergency Medical Services and the U.S. Marshal’s Office, were involved in the operation.

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_news/story/780273-p2.html#Comments_Container

Thank God nothing bad happened to that reporter or to the city of Columbus GA, but when you consider nuts like Roeder and von Brunn and groups like Republic of Texas, whose leadership was once sentenced to 111 years in prison and whose financial officer was associated with Orly Taitz's felonious legal assistant, Charles Lincoln, I mean, come on, if we're not watching these people and serving as a megaphone against them, we're grossly negligent.

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. Oh please

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[Budgies Revenge]

7. I can't in good conscience call someone a threat to national

security just because they are infested with the stupid. However, if someone crosses the line, then they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Unfortunately, "thought crime" can cut both ways. I fully believe that the Bush/Gore election was stolen, and I have serious doubts about the veracity of the Bush/Kerry election--by your logic, shouldn't I have been considered a threat to national security by the Bush Administration?