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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:20 PM
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Rev Sharpton Response to the Arrest
Interesting response regarding the officer having taught racial profiling classes....Now i don't always agree with everything rev Sharpton says or does but in this case, this was something that did not hit me yet...

since it is true that the officer in question taught the racial profiling class would then he of all people have been able to defuse a situation where the subject, in this case Prof Gates was extremely agitated and yelling at him calling him a racist etc, would not he then have been able to defuse the situation instead of arresting him for this very reason which is what he states?

It is obvious this guy taught from a book only and therefore in reality it did not change his own personal demons regarding how he saw people since he supposedly was unable to calm a hysterical Gates down...interesting

so there goes that argument out the window as to why he arrested Prof. Gates...now what?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:42 PM
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1. I'd like to hear his statement. I agree with his take on Crowley
Why would the Diversity Training (or Profiling) trainer fall prey to a behavior he should recognize? Why didn't he defuse or walk away rather than exercising his power?

There's another thread about police in Grand Prairie, TX being put on leave for circulating a racist e-mail about the President, and those officers had apparently taken Diversity Training.

I don't think that mandated training will be successful if the trainee does not WANT to learn or change. There's a difference between learning something by rote because it's required for your job and adopting what your learn.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 02:50 PM
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2. the media should be asking the same question and yet, ive only heard it
once this morning by sharpton which by the way msnbc has not repeated that particular statement and it is a good question to ask
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geek_sabre Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 03:15 PM
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3. While I believe there was ego on both sides
I don't think racial profiling occurred here. Maybe on the part of the individual who called the police in the first place, but if the same event happened in my town, the outcome would be the same regardless of race.

Its not like the police were trolling the streets hoping to catch a black guy doing something suspicious. They were responding to a report of a break-in in progress from someone in the area.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 03:17 PM
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4. what I believe is that a black man dared to get into the face of a white man, case closed...
and this time said white man had a badge and abused his authority....he went there for a reason and all would have been well and good if only this little old black man who walks with a cane had knew his place in that you dare not raise your voice to a white man let alone a white man with a badge.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 09:16 PM
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10. I've had friends, white who did less than Gates did to white cops and got the hell beat out of them.

I think public servants should be above "getting back" at the public when their authority is challenged.

I know I work with the public and I don't try to screw with difficult clients.

However I've known lots of cops who beat or otherwise screwed with people for talking back, complaining or just not doing what the cop wanted fast enough and they were of the same race.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:18 PM
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11. The neighbor, Lucia Whalen, reported "what appeared to be two black males with backpacks."
What were the police supposed to do, stop a few whites on the way to the house just to be politically correct?

So the idiot Sharpton claims this is "the highest example of racial profiling I have seen," during what I would call "the highest example of senseless, stupid, baseless race-baiting by a self-important blowhard I have ever seen." Racial profiling? Exactly who were the officers supposed to look for after being told "two black males?" This isn't a case of cops stopping blacks for speeding and ignoring whites who commit the same crime, it is police looking for people at a certain address which was given along with the physical description. It isn't "racial profiling" at all, but leave it to that fuckhead Sharpton to automatically assume otherwise.

I don't know what happened because I wasn't there, but I do know Sharpton is guilty of exactly what he's accusing Crowley of: prejudice. Sharpton just assumes Crowley hassled the poor, polite black man because he's a racist, but Sharpton is as much of a racist as anyone I've ever heard of. He's a useless gasbag who really should just shut the fuck up. It's assholes like him crying wolf any time he can get his name in the paper who make a lot of people roll their eyes and ignore REAL cases of racism and profiling when they occur.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 03:21 PM
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5. The african-american partner of Sgt. Crowley says he did nothing improper
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 03:26 PM
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6. so what... ? cops stick together. it's the rules of the game.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:06 PM
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13. So What. He obviously lied because
Gates was arrested and then the charges were Dropped with an apology.

I don't care if the 2nd cop was White, Black, or Orange.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:19 PM
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14. Well, sure, he obviously lied,
'cause all of us who were NOT there, including Al Sharpton, know a hell of a lot more of what really happened than the cops who WERE there!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:21 PM
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15. Sorry, I believe Gates..and
we don't have to have been there to know the charges were dropped and an apology was given to Gates.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:38 PM
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19. Disturbing the peace charges
are often dropped once the party in custody has a chance to calm down. And because we weren't there, we don't know the whole story of what went on at the police station, either.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 03:27 PM
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7. hmmmm.......
an interesting angle from the good ol' Rev.

Yes indeed, if he taught racial profiling, this should have been a perfect
example to express his scholarly skills by diffusing the situation.

Good Job Rev.....:thumbsup:

:think:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 04:53 PM
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8. Just another elephant in the room!
:rofl: People seem to think his teaching of diversity somehow exonerates him. Seems HE never learned what he "taught." :rofl:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:22 PM
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16. Hey - nobody knows diversity like we do - we wrote the book on it. Literally.
:P
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:47 PM
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20. Yes, ...it's like..
"Here's Proof the cop was doing no wrong!":woohoo:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:23 PM
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17. "defusing".
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 06:01 PM
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9. Trivia: the Boston Red Sox were the last major league team to have a black player on the roster.
Elijah "Pumpsie" Green... August 1959, over 12 years after Jackie Robinson's debut with the Dodgers.

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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:25 PM
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12. The most surprising thing about this case
Is how long it took Sharpton to involve himself. Usually he's a lot faster.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:33 PM
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18. Not that it ever mattered.
Justin Volpe had a black fiancee. Didn't stop him from yelling racial slurs while beating and sodomizing a black man with a night stick inside the police station. He pretty much used the same excuse.
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