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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:58 PM
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US Secret Service looks at alleged coup plotters: “Birthers’ Queen Bee” could lose law license
Anybody who has been paying attention by now knows that “Birtherism” is a conspiracy theory constructed by Democrats and 9-11 troothers in order to disorient opponents of President Obama. Its purpose is to boost Democrat reelection chances by portraying conservatives as conspiracy nuts. The Democrat media is now turning up the volume on Birther-related “news” items in order to distract from the fight over “Obamacare” on Capitol Hill.

Conservative leaders including Ann Coulter, Michael Medved, Joe Scarborough, David Horowitz, Michelle Malkin, Ed Morrisey of Hot Air and others have denounced the conspiracists. Medved calls them “nutburgers”.

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Military personnel foolish enough to associate themselves with Taitz destroy their careers and even risk the stockade. Carl Swensson, head of Taitz’ phony and powerless “Georgia citizens’ grand jury” was on May 26 visited by the Secret Service. The lifelong racist who recently murdered a security guard in an armed assault on the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC, was amongst other things, a Bush-hating 9-11 “truther” and a “birther.”

The Secret Service visit to Swensson came after he signed a phony “indictment” demanding removal of Obama stating:

“If the government does not amend the error within 40 days after being shown the error, then the four members shall refer the matter to the remainder of the grand jury. The grand jury may distrain and oppress the government in every way in their power, namely, by taking the homes, lands, possessions, and any way else they can until amends shall have been made according to the sole judgment of the grand jury.”

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http://mensnewsdaily.com/2009/07/29/us-secret-service-looks-at-alleged-coup-plotters-birthers-queen-bee%E2%80%9D-could-lose-law-license/
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 10:59 PM
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1. “nutburgers”, LOL.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 12:07 AM
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3. Here is another thread on this topic
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 11:05 PM
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2. PUMA ties?
During all of this time, many of the “birthers” who now command so much attention were busy giving money to Democrats, working for Hillary Clinton, and/or peddling 9-11 conspiracy theories. Now they claim to offer the hope of removing Obama.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 09:50 PM
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11. Yep!!
A lot of the claims of Kenyan birth, fake birth certificate, Indonesian citizenship, etc., started or got traction on the PUMA boards and blogs. (Case in point, TexasDarlin, HillaryIs44, HillaryVillage, etc).

The current birthers can be seen as the result of a drunken, meth-fueled orgy between the PUMAs and the Freepers. And it's a pretty ugly baby indeed.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 10:51 PM
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14. "The current birthers can be seen..." Dead to rights accurate--and funny as hell.
:rofl:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:00 PM
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16. an ugly baby indeed!
These are some racist, nutjobs.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:44 PM
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17. "A pretty ugly baby" who
is destroying military careers and wasn't the hero, Holocaust guard, Stephen Johns, killed by a birther?
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:57 PM
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15. Makes you wonder, huh? nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 07:41 AM
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22.  Not surprising; all this crap started from Clinton's campaign and her supporters.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 08:31 AM
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23. One word answer: BULLSHIT!!!!
:thumbsdown:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 08:53 AM
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24. Sorry, tiger. You don't get to make up your own history....
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 09:04 AM by BlooInBloo
http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=4007

Obama Sued By Clinton Supporter Over Eligibility To Be President
August 22, 2008 — Ron Chusid

As I said yesterday, the kooks will continue to promote their conspiracy theories and claims that Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery despite all the evidence to the contrary. It also provides an example of how both many on the far right and many Clintonistas think alike. Via America’s Right we have this example of how far the Obama conspiracy theorists are willing to take their fantasies:

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States…

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator’s background, and in today’s lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls “dual loyalties” due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator’s use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of “multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries” remains on the table.





Direct link to the court documents: http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/


Birther-ism started with the Clinton campaign and her supporters.




EDIT: Another fun blast from the past: http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:3GtYwyuDNvgJ:www.hillarysvillage.net/constitution/15608-you-can-help-phil-berg.html+philip+berg+clinton&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

That sort of thing is why I'm not all that bent out of shape about freepers taking over the birtherism cause. New Obama opponents appear strikingly similar to the old ones.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 09:37 AM
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25. Some supporters may be as nutty as the Freepers, all campaigns have them,
but it did not start with her campaign. There was no campaign directive to push for this nonsense.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:10 AM
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4. "a conspiracy theory constructed by Democrats and 9-11 troothers"
uuhhh . . . okay
??
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 08:30 AM
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5. Those are some scary sons of a bitches
I only hope they are stopped before they do something violent.
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Milspec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 09:13 AM
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8. Tell that to the family of the museum guard
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 09:43 PM
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10. Clearly we didn't do enough to stop wackos like him
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 09:07 AM
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6. I read the comments following the article...
...and if anyone needed any proof of absolute insanity - as if - there it is. Did they not read the article??? That Obama-hating right-winger who wrote it answered every "question" these fools scream about in big CAPITAL LETTERS in their comments, point by point. They refuse to even consider listening to someone who's on their side. The level of their inability to read or understand what they read is astounding, in spite of their propensity to spout non-sensical legalese.

Holy shit they're stupid.

And I'm damn glad the SS is making house calls.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 09:54 PM
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12. That "Captain Steve" comment....
Is a birther twit that runs "the Steady Drip". His name is Sam Sewell. Likes to use a whole blortload of sockpuppets, and throws around the fact he's a Mensa member any chance he gets,

He may have a high IQ, but he's as stupid as a yugo full of anvils.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:41 PM
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18. "stupid as a yugo full of anvils"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Mind if I use that?
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 04:35 PM
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26. Have fun!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 09:09 AM
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7. OT, My McAfee Site Advisor has problems with your link
Some advertiser gives out malware on mensnewsdaily.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 10:54 AM
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9. Delicious.
I'd love it if they took Oily Taintz's license away from her.
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NYMountaineer Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 10:00 PM
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13. I can see the Freeper types now...
OMGZ, teh NWO is heer! Chek ur mailbocks to seee witch colur FEMA list ur on! Wayk up, sheapull! Spitt out teh kule-ayd! Teh illumonazis is sensering the voys of freedumb luving Amurkin ppl!111!!!1!
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 12:04 AM
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19. NYMuntaineer....I know that took some concentration
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 12:06 AM by Iwillnevergiveup
and you did a damn fine job - I cud reed evrey misspilled wurd.

Edit for spelling your name: NYMountaineer.:hi:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:08 AM
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20. Really strange article
It sounds as though a moderately educated Freeper with paranoid schizophrenia wrote it. For every:

"What possible reason could Obama ever have to make his opponents more effective? Saul Alinsky explains: “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.” This lesson Obama has learned well. When will the “birthers” learn that they are just fools for Obama?"

you get turds of stupidity like this:

" Obama cannot answer the charges in any court because to do so would give the courts authority to rule on the eligibility of a sitting President. This would greatly undermine the power of the President—which Obama cares about very deeply. This is why Obama spends hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight the “birther” lawsuits."

Not sure what to make of this whole piece. One thing I do know is that this person is no fan of Obama and is probably not so much interested in the truth as trying to get Birthers to stop being so stupid, gullible and easily played by the Oily Taters of the world.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 07:39 AM
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21. self-delete - wrong branch.
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 07:40 AM by BlooInBloo
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