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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:46 PM
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Abortion and the Health Care Plan
July 21, 2009 11:08 PM
Obama: Abortion Funding Not Main Focus of Health Reform

Stupak was one of 19 Democrats who sent a letter to Pelosi in late June, calling the issue a deal-breaker.

"We cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan," the letter said. "Without an explicit exclusion, abortion could be included in a government subsidized health care plan under general health care."

The letter cites research from the Guttmacher Policy Review, a leading abortion rights research organization, that finds "that about one third of women who would have had an abortion if support were available carried their pregnancies to term when the abortion fund was unavailable."

The Guttmacher Institute also provides research showing that, in 2002, more than 86 percent of employment-based insurance plans routinely covered abortions. So ostensibly, if no federal dollars were allowed to fund abortion, many women could end up losing benefits they currently have. Medicaid funds are already prohibited from funding abortions. "

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/21/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5178972.shtml
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:50 PM
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1. What kills me, totally kills me all these pro-lifers
Want NOTHING at all to do with the baby the second after it's born. If Mama has no health insurance, the baby can just squirm and die for all they care.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:55 PM
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2. Except there's this little thing called the Hyde Amendment.....
..... which made that letter one big fat Red Herring.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:01 AM
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3. so do you mean 'abortion abortion' or birth control?
The dogmatic Right uses the word as an umbrella for ALL forms of contraceptives. Has anyone added to the bill proof-of-marriage before Viagra is prescribed? Also proof that the man seeking a sex-drug is not a pedophile, or a wife-beater? Has that been included?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:16 AM
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4. It's about destroying women's rights . . . including right to self defense . . .
even if the assailant is a fetus.

It's about being able to control their lives --

It's about being able to prevent a pregnancy when they don't wish to have a child.

Overall, whether abortion is legal or illegal, the numbers don't change by much --
therefore, women will have illegal abortions -- which negatively effect their health,
their future fertility, their families -- and often cause their death.

I think Medicaid does cover abortion when the life of the woman is threatened . . . ?????
Not sure, however. Rape, Incest?

I understand also that the pill is now something like $40 a month -- and that they give
women on Medicaid a generic version of the pill which is less effective causing many
of the women to seek abortions.

Of course, abortion has to be covered -- this is one of the major issues which must not
be compromised.



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