Jessica Yellin on Obama sending more troops to Afghanistan: "This is not the man they (on the left)

[jenmito]

voted for..." (She's from CNN.) Sorry, Jessica, but any of us on the left who were paying attention DID vote for the man who said he considered Afghanistan "the good war" and who said he'd concentrate THERE rather than Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11. :eyes:

[babylonsister]

1. Is this a cnn person? I hear you, jen. Yes, he said that, and yes, I

voted for him. I'm very glad Obama is president, still, after all these many months. :D

[jenmito]

2. Yes. Sorry, I should add that.`

Maybe SHE wasn't paying attention. :hi:

[FrenchieCat]

7. Maybe the more than can get to turn on him on the left,

the lower is approval will go.

Seems to be the theme at CNN these days.

I noticed that John King had a segment on a homeless woman,
and dealt with her lack of a job and her loss of her home.....
He mentioned "local" non profits charity helping her...
and of course, never mentioned that this woman had no health insurance....
cause guess that wouldn't be relevant during the time that we are
debating health care reform.

[jenmito]

8. Yeah, that seems to be their MO-give out false info. to bring him down

and then GRADE him every hundred days. Funny-I can't find Bush's "report cards" ANYWHERE. :eyes:

[EFerrari]

19. Yep. The media has worked from Day 1 to shave his support

from both sides.

[Pirate Smile]

23. I'm so disgusted tonight to see all these attacks on him from the left - on Huff Post, Daily Kos,

etc. while the RW crazies are going nuts attacking him and spreading pure lies. People wanting to just give up. Unbelievable.

[EFerrari]

3. And the other choice was McCain.

Of course, Obama knows bin Laden isn't in Afghanistan and neither is Omar but by all means, let's keep warring on Afghanistan. They can't really fight back very hard. I'm sure this will go well.

[jenmito]

9. The point is Obama told us what he planned on doing re: Afghanistan. n/t

[EFerrari]

14. Right. He also told us he'd be listening and he forgot to tell us

that his Chief of Staff would be cussing us out in public.

[Stinky The Clown]

22. Saying it before the eection doesn't make it any less wrong

Besides, what was the choice? McPalin?

A vote for Obama is not necessarily a vote for Afghan escalation.

[jenmito]

39. That's not the point!!!

The point is we knew his position on this subject.

[Orsino]

45. There's more than one point.

And ending an unwinnable and unaffordable war seems to me one of the most important.

[rhombus]

4. Have you checked CNN's ratings recently?

CNN has become a shell of itself-- an airhead news channel. Vote with your remote.

[jenmito]

10. I only watch CNN on the weekends when MSNBC has their stupid prison shows

or whatever.

[Phx_Dem]

32. Good. I'd like to see all the cable news shows go down the tubes.

They all about sensationalism and they inform no one.

[geek tragedy]

5. The network of Lou Dobbs speaks for the left? n/t

[tritsofme]

6. It is not Obama's fault that these people projected their own politics on him.

This is what he said in the campaign. If these people chose to deny or ignore it then, it is no one's fault but their own.

[dflprincess]

11. You're right

those of us who didn't agree with every last thing Obama said should have stayed home last November or voted for someone else. I would have had I been aware that by voting against McCain I was taking some kind of loyalty oath to always agree with every move Obama makes.

[tritsofme]

13. Feel free to disagree.

It doesn't bother me at all.

But don't pretend to be shocked that he is doing what he said he would in the campaign.

[dflprincess]

18. I'm not shocked - most of us aren't

but I'm tired of those who act as though Obama can't be questioned just because he said something during the campaign.

During the campaign he said he opposed mandated insurance coverage - now he's all for it. Too bad he can't change his mind about Afghanistan.

[jenmito]

12. Exactly. n/t

[EFerrari]

15. Are you kidding? He spent millions of dollars to make sure people would do just that.

He did say he would ramp up Afghanistan. He was wrong then and he's still wrong now.

Since the quote in the OP is out of context, I can't really know what that speaker was saying.

But good luck, blaming voters aka "these people" for disagreeing with Obama.

[jenmito]

16. Funny how the others on this thread know what Yellin was saying. She claimed

we did not know Obama was going to ramp up the war in Afghanistan. Nobody's blaming anyone for disagreeing with Obama. MY post is blaming Yellin for misrepresenting Obama's position re: Afghanistan whether you agreed with it or not-you knew his position.

[EFerrari]

17. I don't think it's funny that people leap to weigh in on out of context quotes.

I think that's frightening actually.

Your point is that he was clear about his good war. My point is a different one. My point is that the left thought they were electing someone who promised to be receptive and transparent, not someone who was dug into unworkable policies. That's who I voted for, in any case.

And, yes, when we call people who disagree with Obama "these people", we're not doing him or the party any favors.

[jenmito]

34. I GAVE the context. Your point has nothing to do with the point of my OP. n/t

[IndianaGreen]

20. We didn't vote for a 10-year war in Afghanistan

The war in Afghanistan could take "decades", the new Defence Secretary John Hutton admitted today.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/politics_show/7680732.stm

[leftstreet]

26. +1

[Cha]

21. Mediawhores try to dissemble wherever and

whenever they can..more and more are not buying it.

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[eridani]

24. In the area of war and imperialism, the left voted for the lesser of two evils. n/t

[snake in the grass]

25. I voted for Obama in the end...

...because there was no other choice. Afghanistan is not a "good" war, it's the graveyard of empires. Too bad we'll learn the hard way.

[ErinBerin84]

27. true

I may not agree with Obama on Afghanistan, but he made his position clear to me before the election.

Jessica Yellin was the one on CNN over the weekend who said that Sarah Palin's "death panel" nonsense was "good for her, because she is taking a policy stance and we are not talking about her resigning." Ugh.

[jenmito]

35. Thank you...

and I can't believe she said that about Palin's "death panel" BS! :eyes:

[Orsino]

28. It's not the change I voted for...

...but it's the status quo that Obama promised.

It's just not the change that America desperately needs.

[jenmito]

36. He ran on concentrating on the war in Afghanistan and that's all my OP is about. Yellin

claimed he didn't run on that.

[Orsino]

44. I'd hoped that I was also voting for a president smart enough to change course...

...when that course obviously isn't working. Making good on campaign promises is a lot less important to me.

[MadHound]

29. I voted for Obama, knowing what he was promising to do

The other realistic choice was mccain/Palin. I was hoping that Obama would be amendable to changing his mind on this issue. Apparently he isn't, and the war for empire is going to continue apace.

Afghanistan isn't a "good war." It is an illegal, immoral war that is going to drain this country. Sadly, we're going to continue fighting it, and most likely I'll opt for third party in '12.

[rug]

30. The only reason I voted for Obama was for him to send thousands of troops into Afghanistan.

[Phx_Dem]

31. Really Jessica? Because I recall Afganistan as being one of Obama's

foreign policy focal points. He always said he wanted to get us out of Iraq and finish the job in Afganistan, BITCH.

[jenmito]

38. Yes, really...

but you're right. I couldn't believe she said it with a straight face.

[harun]

42. Key word: FINISH. How can they finish when they don't even

have objectives? They don't even define who they are fighting. They say Al Qaeda, well, who the hell is that?

Obama's dedication to Afghanistan was to complete the rebuilding. To be able to get out of Iraq, use resources to get Afghanistan on its feet and move on. I think we can all see now this isn't what is happening.

[DevonRex]

33. What an idiot she is. Or maybe she's dishonest. Or both. nt

[elizm]

37. Anyone have contact info so we can send her some love? nt

[Bragi]

40. Obama was wrong

The Afghan war is not a "good war". Once OBL left the country, the Afghan war had no real purpose. No good will come of it.

[jenmito]

41. That's not the point!!! Jeez-how many times do I have to say it? We KNEW his position

on this. THAT'S the point.

[Bragi]

43. Not really

First, there was no choice for antiwar people but to vote for Obama.

Secondly, a lot of these people voted for him hoping he would do what he said in Iraq, while finding a way out of his (and the lacklustre pro-war Congressional dems caucus) regrettably hawkish and unhelpful policy on Afghanistan.

However, he chose to affirm his policy and escalated the Afghan war just like he unwisely promised, which is why he now owns this war. No good will come from it, and it will eventually become a serious political liability if he doesn't figure out a realistic exit strategy.