Cheney indicates he is about to go to war on GW Bush -

[grantcart]

Cheney has signed a major book deal and intends to set the record straight on all of the things that Bush apparently got wrong by not following the Vice President.

Ominously the self appointed, self indulgent, narcissistic, pretender is about to reveal to all of his Republican friends what we have known all along, Dick Cheney has a reached an unparalleled point of arrogance stating simply, "the statute of limitations has expired" on many of his secrets".

Dick Cheney is a weasel of the first order.

The great irony in all of this is that Republicans don't handle transitions well, never had. They want their next leader picked out and put on a pedestal so that they can all fall in line.

Bush's appointment of Cheney eliminated that orderly transition, and by not replacing him in 2004 virtually secured a Democratic electoral win in 2008. (Irony is added when McCain's appointment of Palin makes the same mistake insuring that the Republicans will have at least 4 more years of no heir apparent).

Cheney's self gratifying chest thumping rationalization of every issue that he discussed with the President is so mind blowing-ly rude that it boggles the imagination.

It ensures that the Republican Civil War will continue and that the neo-cons will have a permanent rallying point to continue to destroy the Republican Party from within.

http://www.rr.com/news/politics/article/rr/9009/8621901/Report_Cheney_felt_Bush_stopped_taking_his_advice/full/


WASHINGTON

Cheney, often described as the most influential vice president in U.S. history, has been discussing his years in office in informal talks with authors, diplomats, policy experts and past colleagues, the Post said, as he works on a memoir due out in 2011 from Simon & Schuster's Threshold Editions.

Robert Barnett, who negotiated Cheney's book contract, passed word to potential publishers that the memoir would be packed with news, said the article published on the Post Web site, and Cheney himself has said, without explanation, that "the statute of limitations has expired" on many of his secrets.

. . .

"When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views."


According to the author of the Post piece, Barton Gellman, who earlier wrote a book on Cheney called "Angler," the former vice president believes Bush made concessions to public sentiment, something Cheney views as moral weakness. After years of praising Bush as a man of resolve, Cheney now intimates that the former president turned out to be more like an ordinary politician in the end, Gellman says.

Now don't hold back Dick the future of the Republic is at stake.

(BTW you will get credit for the damage to the Republican Party you so effectively discharge.)

[yellerpup]

1. First K&R!

This is wonderful news. I can't wait to see how he tries to 'rehabilitate' himself. :kick:

[Canuckistanian]

2. "Secrets" don't have statutes of limitation. Crimes do.

What is he talking about?

[grantcart]

7. He is saying, and you really have to think about this for a while to get the true

nastiness of it, that his "loyalty" had a statue of limitations.


Had Bush not selected him to come back he would have just been another stuffy old ex cabinet member without any real power.

This is how he pays Bush back.

[Canuckistanian]

35. It must be the "What have you done for me lately" doctrine

C'mon, Holder, appoint that special prosecutor already.

[intheflow]

10. Is there a statutory limitation on treason?

I don't think so... at least, I hope not!

[joeglow3]

58. My grandfather couldn't talk about his unit it WWII for 50 years

There were no crime comitted.

[Algorem]

3. what about your wife,Dick,you know she's out to get you.your daughters too.

and Rumsfeld,he's a tricky one,you know he's got in in for you.you're the only one worth a damn,Dick,better be extremely careful,they're all out to get you.lucky you kept some nukes for yourself.you'll show them,oh yeah you'll show them all.

[tularetom]

4. The dick is full of shit - he knew all along what a spineless weakling bush was

That's why he chose himself to be VP in the first place- he knew the childish gullible bush would go along with whatever cheney told him to do, particularly after the dick blew smoke of his ass and told him what a great president he would be if he bombed every country in the middle east. By appealing to bush's fragile masculinity, he was able to manipulate the moron into adopting every cheney plan as national policy.

Apparently bush got cold feet after being questioned in the Valerie Plame case and started to distance himself from the dick. He still lacked the cojones to stand up to him, but he could avoid or ignore him simply by isolating himself. The final straw was the boy king's refusal to pardon Scooter Libby upon leaving office.

Now it suits cheney's purpose to act all surprised that bush turned out to be the malleable fool he actually knew he was all along. Still it could be a funny book if it won't so scary.

[704wipes]

72. yeah I guess they won't testify together again

like the bobsey twins they were for the valerie plame testimony

[PatSeg]

5. As VP, he still supported Bush even when he disagreed

with him? He was the VP. What VP in history didn't support his president while in office? He makes it sound like a badge of honor.

[mnhtnbb]

26. He's probably saying he didn't pull an LBJ.

[PatSeg]

29. Could be

He's sounding more and more unstable all the time. Bitter old man.

[Ganja Ninja]

6. Is there a statute of limitations for treason?

:shrug:

[intheflow]

12. LOL

I just posted the same thing, above, before I read you posted it. Surely high crimes and misdemeaners, treason, and war crimes are exempt from the normal 7 year statute of limitations.

[Hekate]

8. I can hardly wait until this shark starts eating his own.

[grantcart]

11. And the irony is that the more savage he makes it the more we will buy it

and all of the other Republicans that want to rip into each other will also want to get paid for rat--ing each other out.


The perfect shit storm.

[XemaSab]

18. Let's hope it's a Cat 5

:D

[potone]

9. I can't wait to read this.

What he doesn't realize is that he gives everyone, even the Republicans, the heeby-jeebies. I hope he is utterly candid, and then the 29% of the populace who still approved of Bush will realize what a dangerous man was really running the country behind their front man.

[Kaleko]

24. If Dick were utterly candid, he'd have to implicate himself in the orchestration

of 9/11, the Anthrax attacks and... oh well, the list is too long to repeat.

His book will be no more than another layer of sticky grime on top of all the other well-documented cover-ups.

[Jokerman]

13. A mass murderer gets paid to write a book.

Fucking disgusting.

I like that he is dishing on shrub but the murderous bastard should be telling his story to a cell mate, not a publisher.

[zulchzulu]

14. I can't wait to hear Darth Cheney's clammy daughter doing his dirty work

:popcorn:

This is going to be priceless.

[uponit7771]

15. ***VALE ATTEMPT TO MAKE BUSH THE GOOD GUY & CHENEY THE BAD GUY***

We all know Bush was a fuck up with little apathy.

[blm]

21. Bingo --- my post below concurs.

.

[boomerbust]

16. You may think I'm crazy

But I think Bush might have been a tolerable President if it wasn't for Cheney.

[grantcart]

17. But there are no 'ifs'

He could have chosen another running mate in 2004.


His choosing of Cheney was his Presidency.


That is all of the data there is.

[City Lights]

19. GOP infighting!

:popcorn: :beer:

And for the record, Dick, who cares what you think? Go cheney yourself.

[blm]

20. This is NOT going to happen the way you think - TOP RULE for Bushes is they ONLY allow

those who will land on a grenade for them into their inner circle. That especially includes Cheney.

Bush still has Cheney and Rove acting as lightning rods for him so HE can have a chance to escape some of the backlash and even rebuild his legacy, ala Poppy Bush.

[grantcart]

22. It would appear that Cheney is already off the reservation

[blm]

23. Nah....they are experts at dog and pony shows.

They play this game during elections, too. Remember back in 2004? There would be a flurry of tips about a top Bush loyalist endorsing Kerry and every camera would be trained on the guy for a few days and then he'd be seen endorsing Bush with every news channel camera hanging on his every word.

Sorry, but, longtime Bush watchers have seen this scenario play out for a few decades now.

[grantcart]

46. Cheney is primarily a narccisstic personality and he is now going to

stake his place out in history. He couldn't give a shit about the Bushes who he never had much respect for.

Longtime Bush watchers know that GWB fell into Cheney's trap by hiring Rumsfield, who is the one man Bush Sr absolutely despised. (It was GWB's choosing of Rumsfield that has given such credibility to the question whether GWB had some deeply troubling psychological problem in competing with his father.)

In the second term GWB fired Rusmfield and started distancing himself from the Cheney cabal and listening more to people from his father's legacy.

Cheney's anger about Libby's treatment is not a dog and pony show.

[blm]

49. It most certainly is a dog and pony show - Bush and Cheney both knew well if Libby was pardoned it

would lead to hearings ala Marc Rich pardon, and with no real control of congress anymore and not certain of an Obama WH covering for them, they are left to their tried and true dog and pony show that will help bring sympathy for Bush while Cheney falls on the grenade.

The Bushboy has NEVER been an innocent bystander in the crimes of office from his administration or his father's.

[chieftain]

25. Cheney sensed W's growing "independence" from him.

That to me is the most telling part of the story. During his exhaustive search for a suitable VP, Cheney came to the conclusion that was W completely unsuited for the intellectual rigors of the job. Rather than scuttling the effort to foist this callow adult on the populace, he saw his only chance to be president, if not in name at least in reality.
The Supreme Court foisted upon the country the first regency in American history. The boy president could ride his bike, cut his brush and mangle the English language. The regent would wield all the real clout and reshape the US into his paranoid fantasy of a unified and all powerful executive ruling a newly martially invigorated imperial nation.
The failure of Dick's policies and the intervention of Poppy's friends ruined the VP's vision. The fall out from the brewing Bush Family/Cheney family feud is going to be very interesting.

[Kaleko]

27. Good analysis.

Two thumbs up.

[Phx_Dem]

28. Cool.

:popcorn:

[SlipperySlope]

30. This ought to be good...

The whole frigging gang of them are self-destructing. What next, will Rice write an expose on why Powell was a closet racist?

[moondust]

31. Why should anybody believe him now?

Not to defend Bush but Cheney is known for telling THE BIG LIE. Even after he is proven dead wrong.

I imagine he's just trying to save his own corrupt ass yet again.

[IndianaGreen]

32. This could be a PR gimmick to sell Cheney's book

I won't spend a dime on it!

[sofa king]

33. I'm sure he had a better and better thought out plan to destroy America.

And it will no doubt be interesting to see how he lies about that.

[ellie]

34. Go for it Dick!

[polichick]

36. If our DOJ would get moving, Cheney could write this in jail. nt

[Arugula Latte]

37. I wish we could lock them both in a cage and let them tear each other to shreds. nt

[LAGC]

38. Maybe it will be Bush's fault he shot his friend in the face.

Rather, I suspect most of Bush's more evil policies came from HIM in the first place...

[thelordofhell]

39. I wouldn't even piss on this book if it was on fire

Why would I want to read the pack of bullcrap that this fucking ghoul shits out. The sooner this evil killer dies, the better. I can't wait to shit on his grave. Good riddance.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[yellowcanine]

40. When you roll someone the way Chaney rolled Bush (by naming himself VP) you are not going to ever

respect them again. Chaney always thought that he was the one who should have been President. Bush was too stupid to realize that Chaney's successful power play would cripple his Presidency.

[ruggerson]

41. You fell for the marketing

they are good at manipulating, I'll give them that.

[agentS]

42. I can't wait to see Bush's response from the book

I know that he's not gonna sit quietly in Dallas forever. He's gonna get up at some point, stammer as he always does, then go off on Cheney.

Bush: Look you bald crusty motherfucker! All this shit is your fault! If I hadn't had picked you, I wouldn't be the worst president on planet Earth! Don't you put this shit on me! I didn't tell you to lie cheat and run death squads! I, I, I, damn you, Dick.

[grantcart]

44. He may have to wait for the comic book version to be able to comprehend it

[TheKentuckian]

43. Bush was a willing participant but lacked the intellect to really run the show

Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice (promising up and comer Jr partner) were the puppeteer crew.

My guess is that Poppy's crew finally reigned them in a bit before they completely wasted the house of cards they had spent generations building up. I think they came close to stepping in in the lead up to Iraq but Poppy once again spared the rod.

[Critters2]

45. Even more disarray among the thugs.

It just gets better and better.

[mtnester]

47. Cheney would do well to remember Poppy Bush

is still alive

[quantass]

48. *YAWN* C'mon people it is an OBVIOUS ploy to sell books

-- it will NOT contain anything overly juicy
you can count on that. This is a common practice to sell books....c'mon this was an obvious thing he was going to say the moment it was made public he was writing a book. *yawn*

[blm]

50. You'd think DUers would be better able to see thru the dog and pony shows by now.

.

[grantcart]

63. see 62 above

You'd think that some DUers would have given up on the "All of the Bushes are united" meme and understood the deeper conflict from the 4 decade rivalry between Rumsfield and Bush Sr, and how there was constant friction between those with alligance to the father and those neo cons who had a seperate cabal under Cheney.

It is obvious that Cheney's power elipsed after the reelection and that he was fighting an increasingly losing battle after Rumsfield was fired.

[grantcart]

62. YAWN and that John Stewart is such an idiot too

He took exactly the same take on it

go here http://www.thedailyshow.com/

go to "class of 43"

while it is common to hype books in advance it doesn't mean that tell all bills will not in fact stroke rivalries.

[blm]

64. so? Stewart's track record isn't 100%. Neither is mine...but, mine is DAMN CLOSE.

.

[grantcart]

66. Its been pretty clear for some time that Cheney wants to pay Bush back

especially for the Libby situation.

Cheney is a vindictive prick and there is every reason to believe that he will sell out his mother to enhance his standing in history.

BTW very funny!!

[blm]

68. Nah - Cheney knows the drill - he wouldn't have taken the job if he wasn't willing to fall on a

grenade for the Bushes.

Things didn't go right - it's his JOB to do everything he can to rehab Bush, and if that means making the murderous Bushboy sound like he was the good cop, then he'll do it.

[grantcart]

70. actually the facts show just the opposite.

Cheney has demonstrated that he feels that he is entitled and his anger over the treatment over Libby which is very well documented shows that he doesn't think that anyone from his camp should be falling on any swords.

You completely misread the dynamics of the relationship and still maintain a remarkable condescending attitude.

[blm]

73. I disagree with you and am saying why with no condescension, at all.

Read ANY objective book on the Bushes and you will note that the only dynamic REQUIRED for a close working relationship with them is for the OTHER person to take the heat and fall on the grenade to protect the Bush.

Libby situation is more dog and pony and I've said so since the beginning. Cheney knows full well that if Libby HAD been pardoned it would prompt hearings in a congress they no longer controlled (a;a Marc Rich). Neither Bush or Cheney would want that. This 'split' with Bush over Libby certainly got alot of media attention. If there really HAD been a split it would have been downplayed immediately by BushInc.

[harun]

51. Maybe he will piss off B*sh so bad we can work out a deal with B*sh

to testify against Cheney for war crimes.

[Orsino]

52. I think he'll be greeted as a collaborator. n/t

[Flying Dream Blues]

71. Good one! nt

[Irreverend IX]

53. And to think Cheney was chosen for his loyalty...

I'm surprised he would cross the Bush family now.

[OneBlueSky]

54. get the slimeballs going after each other, and maybe the truth will come out . . . n/t

.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

55. Excellent

Maybe this will get him off his "torture tangent" and off of Obama's case for awhile.

This should definitely be good to watch!

Butter and salt, anybody?

:popcorn:

[Dappleganger]

56. Great, let them tear each other up...

while the adults try to fix this damn country which they broke.

[grantcart]

57. Jon Stewart covered it during his show

[yodermon]

59. shorter cheney: "Bush didn't bomb Iran like I wanted so now I'll pout" n/t

[grantcart]

60. lol

[BlueIdaho]

61. RELAX people - he's selling a book!

This is all about generating demand for his book release party. It reminds me of an old George Carlin line... "When some product says "chicken flavored" you can be sure of one thing... There's no fucking chicken in it!

[Monk06]

65. If Cheney is going to do tattle tale book should check out Truman Capote's post tell all ostracism.

[Cha]

67. Good, let the cannibalism

begin..they should watch it though..bc they're both poisonous rotten facist liars.

[WinkyDink]

69. My suggested title: The Criminal Psychopathy of Cheney.

[1776Forever]

74. Beauty of a description "Ominously the self appointed, self indulgent, narcissistic, pretender"

Self appointed - he did appoint himself the VP after all!

...........

Self indulgent - Oh never knew anyone that loved himself over country more then this guy - a true "legend in his own mind"!

..............

Narcissistic - The ultimate!

http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis/p20-pe07.html

"Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, need for admiration, extreme self-involvement, and lack of empathy for others. Individuals with this disorder are usually arrogantly self-assured and confident. They expect to be noticed as superior."

...........

And finally the "pretender":

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pretender

pre·tend·er (pr-tndr)
n.
1. One who simulates, pretends, or alleges falsely; a hypocrite or dissembler.
2. One who sets forth a claim, especially a claimant to a throne.

............

Ah yes - Cheney has them all in bushel baskets!:freak:

[Life Long Dem]

75. Doesn't his prescription say don't speak under the influence?

Something about Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and now Cheney that they don't seem to think people care what they say whether they don't care or not what they say. I don't know if working under the influence of narcotics is such a good idea for some but it seems to fall in line with the no brain no pain behavior.

[LiberalEsto]

76. Him and what army?

Somebody hurl a bucket of water on him and see if he dissolves.