I don't care, I am so proud of Obama........

[deep1]

and being a person of color, he is my inspiration. I will not tolerate anyone trying to bring him down---whether from the nutty right or the impatient far left. He is a great role model for black people, black men in this country.

Too often young black people are told "they can't make it", "they ain't gonna amount to shit", etc.

Now here comes Obama giving hope to these young people. For him to become the president of the United States, the most powerful nation in the world, is just nothing short of amazing. I refuse to tolerate the bull thrown at him! He worked his ass off as a black man to get to this office.

Day in and day out he is working hard, it's been only seven months and he has made great progress. Progress takes time. Rome was not built overnight. He is no ZEUS like many on the extreme far left want him to be, but he is doing what he can to uplift this country. He means well. I do not ever want to compare him to his predecessor, we don't want that standard.

I support Mr. Obama 100%.

[Flabbergasted]

1. Thanks. You are right. nt

[deep1]

9. Flabbergasted that dog in your siggy...........

looks ferocious.......damn...lol

[Nedsdag]

2. k&r

[villager]

3. Huh. I didn't know being for single-payer, and against roads in roadless wilderness areas, and

...similarly against unchecked executive power made me "the extreme far left."

But after the lasat 8 years, I suppose I should be used to it.

I'm all for Obama as a role model for American possibility. Doesn't mean he's beyond criticism as a President, however.

[QC]

17. Lately there's more red-baiting on DU than at a John Birch Society rally.

It really does get old.

[Diane R]

47. I agree. It really is getting old.

[mustardman]

82. Under normal circumstances maybe

The problem is the reich power base is nothing but a huge megaphone of hate emanating from Faux and Limbaughs pie hole. So while liberals are free independent thinkers that tend to disagree with their leaders on some things and aren't afraid to let them know it, the reich is not like that. They are robots. In order to counter that borg ship of hate we have to stand together and defend our guy! If we don't the reich interprets that as weakness and it emboldens them.

Long term we will win because the truth is on our side. In the short term the divisivness clouds the message.

[MercutioATC]

4. I'm glad you're happy with him.

...but he's (rightfully) subject to criticism as anybody...especially those with his degree of influence.


I give him a C so far. I have no doubt that he's a better President than McCain would have been, but he's not nearly the leader I'd hoped for.

[katkat]

107. a C from me, too.

He could be doing so much more.

Pros:

So far he's done significant environmentally good stuff in the U.S.,

Cons:

Not accomplished anything on the global environmental scale.

He listens to Tom Daschle the mouthpiece of Big Insurance and Big Pharma, and appears to have caved on health care reform.

He seems unable to break out of trying to be bipartisan with people who clearly are only interested in obstructing his policies. I am sure the Repugs are laughing their heads off about this. Zero street smarts.

We seem to still substantially be in Iraq. I thought Afghanistan was necessary, but now I am not so sure, it looks like another morass and I don't see any leadership there either. The military is still a huge financial drain.

Giant amounts of money wound up in Wall Street hands already making obscene amounts and did not make it to the "regular" people who were supposed to get help refinancing their mortgages. Bankruptcy reform to allow modification of usurious terms didn't happen.

U.S. workers have gotten no help getting a more level playing field, the country is still swamped with products made under terrible conditions in China, et al.

We are stuck with Harry Reid in the Senate. Whether Obama has any influence over this or not, I don't know, but I know LBJ would have fixed this.

[ZombieHorde]

5. "I support Mr. Obama 100%."

What does this mean?

When someone says they support gay marriage, they mean they want gay marriage to be legal.

What does it mean to support a politician? Are you referring to volunteer work or monetary donations?

I am not trying to be an ass, I just don't understand this commonly used phrase.

Now to nitpick...

Why call him Mr. Obama when his actual title is President Obama?

[Why Syzygy]

7. Good question. nt

[Romberry]

110. Good points. See, I support...

...the Constitution of the United States, the law and reforms that actually benefit people rather than corporations. My allegiance is to no man, no woman and no politician but to those things which I just listed. If a president pushes for things I believe in, that president gets my support. If they push for corporate welfare and throw away the promises they made to the people to earn their votes, the only thing they get is my ire.

As much as I despised George Bush, I will give him this. He stayed on message. He used the bully pulpit afforded him by the highest office in the land. And he pushed his agenda even when it was unpopular. Hard. Obama? Not so much. Then again, maybe using the bully pulpit and pushing for things requires that you actually believe in the agenda that you said you stood for in the campaign. I don't think Obama stands for much of anything.

[John Q. Citizen]

6. What I like about Obama is his mom was white and my mom was white. So my kids can look

up to him because their mom is white too.

I just wish he would have let all the white moms who are for single payer have a seat at the table. The black moms too! Know what I mean?

[dolphindance]

43. You don't get it -- because you are white. Your snark is not appreciated. (n/t)

[John Q. Citizen]

45. I suppose you will just have to get over it, or not. Welcome to DU by the way, it's

nice to have you here.

If I can be of any assistance to you, just let me know.

By the way, I'm not quite white. But how would you know that? You wouldn't, yes I know you wouldn't. I'm actually kind of pink, except where I'm tanned.

My ancestors came from Africa. Everyone's ancestors came from Africa. We are all one race, the human race. My ancestors came out of Africa longer ago than some other peoples ancestors came out of Africa.

But as humans, we are all tied to mother Africa. And I think thats a good thing. All of our origins are the same.

[Fire1]

50. Nobody relates to that anthropological aspect. Least of all

white anglo saxon protestants. So, with all your different pigments, how do you identify yourself? Mongoloid?? What?? If you consider yourself bi-racial then you're black, as in, the one drop rule here in the U.S. Try selling that shit at freep republic and to some liberals and see how far you get.

[John Q. Citizen]

52. i can't control how others self identify. Heck check out the Dominican Republic. There are

almost as many different kinds of "race" there as there are people.

But that's just people. We are all crazy in our own ways.

There are many cultures, but only one race.

And of course people are free to disagree with the way I see it, and they often do.

[Fire1]

56. But in your post you used the term "we". Well, "we" identify

ourselves in terms of ethnic groups, creeds and religions. "We" are all aware that we are part of the human race, but no one realistically identifies themselves as "human" on an application or on a census. So, in realistic terms, your screed is not noteworthy or credible. IOW, noone would take it seriously in a rational discussion.

edit to add: I should say we don't identify ourselves in such 'literal' terms.

[John Q. Citizen]

58. people do all the time. Ever work the census? I have. How are you qualified to

state what people put on their census forms?

Perhaps you think you get to dictate how people view themselves. You are certainly free to think that.

[Fire1]

59. Then you should distinguish how YOU identify YOURSELF

and leave "we" out of it! Again, the 'human' screed fails.

[John Q. Citizen]

60. So you are the only human and everybody else is less than human is how you see it?

[Fire1]

63. We all belong to the same SPECIES, thus we are homo

sapiens. Culturally and historically, it became necessary to distinguish ourselves. You may be of the existential philosophy, which works well to support your ideals and makes you feel better about yourself but also works for the rest of us who choose to be "self determining agents."

[John Q. Citizen]

67. So you don't know what people put on their census forms. Am I right? Look,

you just used the "we." And in the same exact sense that I used it.

And we agree that there are a whole lot of different cultures. I said that earlier and you are saying it now.

Ever read Dreams From My Father? It deals with culture, melatonin levels, histories, and self identity. It's very good book, very thoughtful.

You know a quote I like from another book is: "There are two kinds of people in this world; One kind thinks there are two kinds of people in this world - The rest of us know better."

I'm proud of America that we could elect a guy with elevated melatonin (compared to me) who was the smartest of the two major party candidates, and the most capable for the job of the two major party candidates. It gives me hope for my country and and for humans everywhere.

[Fire1]

70. Anyone who equates species with ethnicity is foolish and/or

delusional. The man who was elected POTUS identifies himself as African American. Regardless, of how you 'see' yourself OR him, HE acknowledges that he is Black. You cannot equate SPECIES with ethnicity.

[John Q. Citizen]

71. Anyone who thinks that anybody of any ethnicity doesn't act like a human is crazy.

POS? do you mean POTUS?

That's not what you meant to write, I don't think.

You haven't read Dream's Of My Father, have you? You wouldn't write what you did if you read Obama's book. Read it. it's great. You will learn a lot. I did.

[Fire1]

72. "President of the United States." More importantly, you've

reduced your losing argument to lies and falsehoods. No where in any of my posts did I even remotely state, "anybody of any ethnicity doesn't act like a human!!" Biographies and autobiographies are useless without comprehension and prior knowledge, which you have clearly demonstrated. I suggest you take some courses in academia then go back and read "Dreams of My Father." I don't need to read it to know that SPECIES AND ETHNICITY ARE NOT SYNONYMOUS!!!!

[John Q. Citizen]

73. Anyone can make claims. Like someone could claim that people don't put

"human" on census forms. But that doesn't mean that they have any idea at all what people put on census forms.

Someone could claim to know how the President of the United States self identifies. Yet that doesn't mean that they would have any real idea of how the President self identifies. They haven't discussed it with the President. they haven't read the President's autobiographical book about self identity and family history, yet they assume they know and are completely and totally certain of this knowledge.

Someone might think that screaming SPECIES AND ETHNICITY ARE NOT SYNONYMOUS!!!! means anything or that it would automatically win a discussion. I'm not sure why that is.

PS

The book is called "Dream From My Father." I assure you that it says nothing about species and ethnicity being synonymous or not being synonymous, and neither have I.

And what ever you do, don't read that book - Just kidding :)

[Fire1]

75. I know how he self identifies b/c I've listened to his speeches.

Seriously, take some classes. Your ignorance is showing.

[John Q. Citizen]

78. Every one of his speeches? Or just some of them? I'm confident that I

have far more knowledge than you about how Barack Obama self identifies because I read his book about self identity.
I have it right here on my lap right this second. On the back are those blurbs from reviewers. it's a best seller. The first one i look at says, "Provocative...Persuasively describes the phenomenon of belonging to two different worlds, and thus belonging to neither."-New York Book Review

Uh oh. The New York Times Book Review sounds like they need to take some classes too!

When you tell me to "take some classes," what would you suggest i take classes in and how many would you recommend I take?

And when you say 'my ignorance is showing,' do you mean my ignorance of your great knowledge of Obama's self identity? If so, I doubt taking classes would help. Or if not that then my ignorance of what is showing?

[Fire1]

81. That phenomenon is the same one that applies to all

African Americans, genius. :eyes:

[John Q. Citizen]

85. Don't blame me, The New York Book Revue is who wrote that. Sheesh. Anyway

I'll stick my neck out and say, noooo, I don't think you have it correct. i think this is different...and that's why they remarked on it. I mean they do have at least a few African American people working at the New York Times Book Revue.

[Fire1]

87. That's reaching but you stick with it. What does African

Americans working there have anything to do with the phenomenon of which they describe? Fail again.

[John Q. Citizen]

90. It doesn't because the phenomena isn't typical to African American's it's unique to

Obama.

See he belong neither to the African American world, nor to the white world, since he belongs to both. And that's his self identity. Get it?

If you don't, read the book and you will.

[Fire1]

121. I don't have to read any book to be familiar with that

phenomenon. I am African American. I am the product of several lineages from both sides of my family including African, as are
all African Americans. This 'phenomenon' is not unique to Barack Obama. If you are genuinely interested in this subject, at least be knowledgeable about it. Take some classes in African American History at an accredited institution. Then come back to have an intelligent conversation. Right now, you clearly know not of which you speak and as Rep. Frank put it bluntly, "talking to you is like talking to a dining room table."

[Withywindle]

140. Obama DOES identify as African-American/Black.

YES, even in Dreams From My Father. How many times does he describe himself as "a young black man" or words to that effect? A LOT.

He also has ties to the white world - his mom and grandparents! He writes about that too. He writes about being able to feel at home in both worlds in some ways, but also feel like he doesn't fully belong in either, in other ways. This is a very common experience among bi-ethnic/bi-national people. So is the point where you realize that you identify, and are identified with, one group more than another.

If you just saw a picture of Obama and knew nothing about him or his background, how would you identify his race?

He is well aware of this. And yes, it's in the book.

[dalaigh lllama]

79. actually, there's probably quite a few who don't fill in "race" the way they're listed

I myself drive survey takers nuts by telling them I'm haplogroup R1b when they ask for my race. I've never liked the designations used, and the one I use is based on info I've gotten from the genographic project. Give humanity another few decades, and I bet that will be the question on surveys instead of race: "What haplogroup are you from?"

[burning rain]

61. Lemme have a bite of that gratuitously racial sammich you're mowin' on!

Num num num... tastes trolly!

[QC]

62. He's doing better this time, though. n/t

[Fire1]

49. Yeah. I know EXACTLY what you mean. n/t

[TankLV]

132. too bad too many will not get what you are saying...

all this racist bullshit is just sooo tiring...

[LyndaG]

8. I trust President Obama

It's some of those weasels in Congress that are ruining my nerves (Baucus, Conrad, Grassley, to name a few).

[handmade34]

10. Working to help elect Barack Obama President

made me proud. Watching him win, and the inauguration was wildly thrilling and emotional. I am so very pleased Barack Obama is our President. I respect him and I adore Michelle Obama. He has a tough row to hoe, difficult people to convince and he is working very hard. Along with many other people, I watched with horror at what the Bush Administration did to our country for 8 years and I wanted to reverse all the damage at once. I want more and I want it now! But, just like the President, I am somewhat of a pragmitist and a realist and know that what we have is the best of what was offered. Barack Obama will come out on top in the end and I thank you for supporting him 100%

[quiet.american]

54. Thank you! A GoBama fist-bump for you, too. :) nt

[quiet.american]

11. Fist-bump! nt

[Number23]

12. I kind of like it!

Rec'd

[LooseWilly]

13. I am profoundly torn by your OP

Obama's election as President was an obviously inspiring moment for people of color in the US. Not just "black people", not just "black men"... all people of color.

Obviously... there are undercurrents of tone and innuendo.... and oftentimes outright speaking... that suggest that "young black people.... can't make it"... etc. Not to mention Brown People...

So... the question becomes... and not meant to be obnoxious per se... "what next?" I mean... for black people... for brown people... for women... what next?

Ohh yeah, and... HOW EXACTLY, do those on the "far left" expect Obama to be like ZEUS? When has Obama's "well meaning" been questioned?... Only 7 months indeed...

Support Mr. Obama as you see him supporting your "pet peeves".... and inversely likewise...

[DrDan]

14. 100% support . . . .

So you agree that the Blackwater contract extension is warranted?

You agree with continued presence in Iraq and expanded presence in Afghanistan?

You support warrantless wiretaps?

I think we all support him. Not sure 100% though.

[anniebelle]

15. Yes, we do support the President.

With all the push-back from the neocons, he still maintains an aura of calm and reason. I think this may be the inspiration this young generation needs to motivate them to higher goals.

[katkat]

109. I could use a little less calm.

Sometimes you have to stand up on your hind legs if you plan on accomplishing anything.

[jonnyblitz]

16. I don't support a war escalating president no matter what color

his skin is. All that blood on his hands kinda ruins it for me. sorry. :shrug:

[GeorgeGist]

18. I don't think it's wise to "not care" ...

because of your personal color; especially if you mean to become a leader.

[polichick]

19. Well, I've never supported EVERYTHING a white prez does...

...and I won't support EVERYTHING a black prez does either ~ any time they're dancing with corporate America instead of with those that brought them to the dance, I'm pissed; and any time they engage us in a war of choice, I'm pissed.

[dolphindance]

44. But you've ALWAYS had a white president; and don't know what its like to have the FIRST BLACK ONE.

...while being a black person. Don't you understand that?

[polichick]

76. I don't know - we haven't had a female prez, but when we do I very much doubt...

...that I'll support everything she decides to do. I can't imagine ever supporting sell-outs to corporate America or wars of choice.

[dolphindance]

96. You would be frustrated. But you'd have more patience and give more benefits of the doubt.

Trust me, you would. You SAY you wouldn't but you don't know where your emotions would take you if it actually HAPPENED.

[treestar]

126. No two humans agree all the time

Or can know all about what the other is doing to judge.

But it's just as dumb to say you will oppose a politician on something just to prove that.

Obama is President, not god, he knows he can't get whatever he wants. I agree with him on most things and as to the possibility of getting them done, I think he's mostly right to focus on what he thinks can be done and not to try for things that would amount to tilting at windmills.

So I'm not going to go looking for something to disagree on just to disagree. That proves nothing but that I'm a different person.

[polichick]

134. I'm not sure what this has to do with my post - the point is, I don't support bad policies...

...even if I like the person carrying them out ~ black, white, female, whatever.

[Adelante]

20. I am proud of him, too

White and proud :)

[HopeOverFear]

21. Hear hear

[GivePeaceAchance]

22. He's a great role model for black people around the world. In the continent of Africa folks are ...

working to be their own Obama. His election has given hope to Africans all over the planet, that face racism to show they can truly make it to be everything they can be. All those people that thought that gangsta crime is the only way are thinking again, in every nation. His election in itself is a mssive inspiration , and will break down the any potential will to choose life of crime across the world. It's bizarre the heat he takes. In leaving Afghanistan it would leave him open to massive blame if thre was attack in the US. He's doing the best he can with variables and corruption he was handed, and tried not to offend mighty corporations that will go to any lengths to get their way, but managing to find a 3rd way at the same time. Some of his expectations he's been given are actually asking to be jesus and well, he's not. No miracles today sorry. But if there is a second coming we'll be sure to let people know. :) That's not to say he's beyond criticism, but let's just not ever forget the middle ages we just left behind, and work with all our hearts to make this the most successful presidnecy in history and not just expect it to happen with no work.

[BeyondGeography]

23. I returned to the U.S. this week and there was his photo on the wall at Customs instead of W.'s

I knew it would be there but it made me feel so much better anyway. I want it there for eight years.

[choie]

24. that's like saying that you love the United States

no matter what it does. You can love your country, but still question and not support the actions that it takes. Same with the President. That's being a good citizen.

[DrDan]

25. huh? Being a good citizen is loving your President. . .?

Is that what you mean by "Same with the President"????

There is no way I ever could ever have loved Junior. I disagreed with him SO much there is no way I could ever muster support for him He was the antithesis of what I consider a President should be, and what a President should represent.

[choie]

31. Uh...no...

The analogy was meant to explain to the writer of this post that one can
"adore" the president (Obama) and also criticize what he is doing at a particular moment. I don't know how you translated that into a directive to love any president. whatever...

[DrDan]

40. quite easily, actually

"You can love your country, but still question and not support the actions that it takes. Same with the President"

Your see, "same with the President" means you replace "country" with "President" in the sentence "You can love your country".

Really not too hard to understand.

[deep1]

26. IT TOOK EIGHT YEARS TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY........

and some of you think he can fix it in a year? LOL.

[Cha]

29. Yeah, they have selective

memories.

[fortyfeetunder]

80. I wish I could rec your post.

that is so true...

[NoSheep]

83. it took more than eight years...but I get your point.

edited to add...one reason why I continue to have complete respect for Obama and give 100% support is because I KNOW it took more than eight years. These bastards have been brewing their poison for a very long time. They had the ways and means to do it. ONE MAN...ONE very exceptional man, is not going to reverse the power structure in 100 days or 1000 days. I trust Obama. And I am so very proud of him. Every day I wake up and I'm glad someone who is much better equipped than I am, who understands my needs, is there in my place doing everything possible to help me and those like me. Skin is not my particular issue. But it is an issue I understand and feel a kinship with. World view is my issue...and I share it with many working people struggling as I am and their skin is brown and their skin is red and peach and black and blue. I'm with you and he's with us. We have never had this kind of representation in our adult lives. Johnson was a questionable man as far as the rule of law is concerned, but he cared about civil rights...maybe my upbringing was better because he tried to mediate a lot of this bullshit we see as far as having a more or less fair society. Those days are long gone. We may NEVER see another Obama. It sickens me that people are so damn spoiled they have no idea how they insult some of us when they just listen to what a bunch of talking heads tell them and say they aren't going to vote for him next time. Naive...spoiled, idiots.

I believe we must remember that being vocal about our concerns counts as support for him. Our concerns are his concerns. If we aren't vocal, all the country would hear is a bunch of shills bought off by the neocons' drone and the corporate interests they bow down to. The MEDIA and the pigs that own it are the enemy. It matters that we raise hell here...I just wish people wouldn't appear so stupid as to criticize Obama wholesale as if he created the world in 7 days and should be able to undo it in three! Where are the threads that discuss what HAS been done? There have been two that I can remember in the past month. Anyway...that was alot to add. But I'm feeling it, I guess.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. You need to understand, rather than judge and castigate

The President opposes equal human rights for my family. Wants us to be forever treated as a second class minority because of his own dogmatic prejudices. I obviously can not and will not support that bigoted aspect of this President and his administration. They favor discrimination against minorities they do not like, and offer up Biblical excuses for it. I do not support discrimination, nor bigotry toward my fellow human beings. Most certainly not against my own family and friends.

[Cha]

28. I support Pres Obama

a 100% too, deep, and thank you for your OP.

You got that right..the "impatient left".. it's ridiculous to use speed as a criterion for fail push.

[Lilyeye]

30. Funny how some people are mocking your comments about him being a role model to black people.

I understand why black people may say they feel proud and he gives them hope. This is the first time we've ever seen someone besides a white guy in office. If it was reserved, I would feel the same.

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32. I'm with you all the way!

[justinaforjustice]

33. I'll Be Proud Too -- If He Passes Medicare for All.

I fiercely supported Obama, but I am incredibly saddened to see him continuing Bush administration policies vis a vis torture, war, Gitmo, preventative detention, gay rights, DADT, hiding information in law suits, and failing to actively work for health care for all Americans.

Obama's election demonstrated a a major, major advance in race relations in the U.S., but we have to go further and prove that we can provide millions of Americans of all races and ethnicities with the health care they need. Obama has to lead that fight or he will be a one-term president.

[Phx_Dem]

34. I'm with you, and Obama.

[liquid diamond]

35. This is the first time I have felt sorry for the president.

He is taking fire on BOTH sides on the health care issue. It's tough to say, but sometimes I'd like him to say fuck it and not run in 2012. If we end up with another repub in office, that should put things back in perspective especially for whiners on our side that bitch and moan daily. Sometimes I feel this country doesn't deserve him.

[Adelante]

39. I know what you mean

Sometimes I feel guilty for putting him and his family in this horrible position. With everything he has to deal with, burdens no human can carry, and his own side letting him down. It's tragic.

[dflprincess]

77. He put himself in this position when he decided to run for president

n/t

[katkat]

113. His own side isn't letting him down.

We aren't letting him down. We're reacting to his letting us down.

[butterfly77]

48. I know what you mean...

Some people seem to be just waiting to pounce,they started the first week. Some also forget that a lot of Bush's moles are in the government and we don't really know all of what is going on..

[firedupdem]

55. I totally understand what you are saying. Sometimes I feel the

same way. He gets shit on from all sides and he's truly trying to get a lot done at once. He could have easily waited to tackle some of these issues but he jumped in feet first working. He inherited a pile of shit, 8 yrs in the making, yet some are never going to be satisfied. If he did say "fuck it" in 2012, I couldn't blame him.

[jenmito]

36. K&R from a white person who can relate. n/t

[CakeGrrl]

37. K/R

[Mystayya]

38. Sorry if I am impatient

As my health steadily declines and my teeth fall out slowly I will try to make sure I don't speak out to loudly for Single Payer or a publoic option so as not to disturb your little utopia.

Let me guess, you can marry the one you love and you also can go see a doctor when you are ill.

Those of us who can't will go sit quietly in the corner as to not disturb you!

(note: your post was fine and I am glad you are proud of him, but to demonize those of us fighting for a better life for ourselves and our familes as being impatient gets you a big "screw you, you selfish jerk" from me)

[RFKHumphreyObama]

41. He's my role model, my hero and my inspiration

I don't agree with him on every choice he's made or where he stands on every issue but I never dreamed that I would see a political leader with his intellect, his compassion, his vision and his intelligence in the White House.

This is a great post:thumbsup:

[dolphindance]

42. Damn straight. K&R and recommended. (n/t)

[Fire1]

64. +1

[Diane R]

46. Fabulous OP.

[Hosnon]

51. I agree that he is a great role model for minorities (specifically, blacks).

However, I don't think you should support him no matter what simply because he is the same color as you. President Obama is great, but he's not perfect. And a good leader needs constructive criticism. If he messes up, let him know.

[Name removed]

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[goclark]

57. Welcome to DU from a Soul Sista

goclark

:bounce:

I'm with you all the way ~

[CitizenPatriot]

65. you're right, and he's a great role model for us all

as is his wife. I, for one, admire Obama's ability to deal in facts, be diplomatic, and think long term strategy. He's not an angry, emotional, reactionary person (like * or McCain). There's so much to admire about him.

I'm honored that we elected him and that he was willing to serve this country during this disaster. My biggest fear is that he just says, "no thanks" in 2012. I couldn't blame the guy.

[Fire1]

66. I wouldn't blame him, either, CP. n/t

[omega minimo]

68. That's a great flowery speech

taking a swipe at Dem comrades " the nutty right or the impatient far left" and forgetting all the compromises as "He worked his ass off as a black man to get to this office."

It is those compromises that are now problematic. None of it is black and white.

[CakeGrrl]

84. Since when is "impatient" taking a swipe at someone?

A little hypersensitive, IMO.

I agree with the OP. Quite a few "Dem comrades" around here have closed the book on him before he's finished his first damned year. Let's not forget the passion of the dedicated "Fuck Obama" Dem comrade demographic.

Anyone who claims that he hasn't done anything just because the biggest initiatives have yet to be completed, and I've seen a few who have made that claim, are just pig-ignorant.

[omega minimo]

88. ".... anyone trying to bring him down---whether from the nutty right or the impatient far left."

Context is your friend :hi:

[CakeGrrl]

91. I didn't miss much context

There are people here who are totally ready right now to put up a primary challenger to him. If the OP considers that one way to bring him down, I won't argue that point.

[omega minimo]

99. Then tell it to them. Your posts have naught to do with mine.

:shrug:

"It is those compromises that are now problematic. None of it is black and white."

[CakeGrrl]

105. I just happened to take issue with the notion that we are all "comrades" around here

Tell that to "them".

[omega minimo]

115. OIC. I'm sorry the word "comrades" upset you

I used it in the sense of having common cause. I would also argue the imagery of "the nutty right or the impatient far left" is a false construct, as is lumping them together as being critical of Obama.

Those cliches are silly.




"...and forgetting all the compromises as "He worked his ass off as a black man to get to this office." It is those compromises that are now problematic. None of it is black and white."

[akbacchus_BC]

69. 100% agree with you and if he veers from his promises, we are here

to keep him on track. He inherited a lot a bullshit and he is trying, he really has stamina. President Obama, I have your back! No matter who are ridiculing you!

[maxpower]

74. I couldn't agree more

I think he has a few more tricks up his sleeve. I think he is a lot smarter than the right gives him credit for. He is a great role model for all people. I was lucky enough to do my student teaching when he was inaugurated. I used him as example to all the children in the class that anything is possible as long as you try. I am proud he is my president, and I am as waspy as they come. Not that it matters.

Peace

[lib2DaBone]

86. White or Black.....How does he justify Torture and not Releasing pictures?

I support Mr. Obama ...but my finger nails are getting long from hanging on...

[donco6]

89. This is a little creepy.

I mean - really.

[CakeGrrl]

92. You scare easily. n/t

[donco6]

93. You're right, I should be used to it by now.

The quivering loins, the heart-rending sonnets, the protestations of love and adoration. It's all rather ho-hum - what's to be creeped out about?

[QC]

101. You said "loins." n/t

[donco6]

119. I meant pork loins . . . nothing I like more than roast loin. n/t

[QC]

120. I saw something at the store the other day called "cod loins."

Didn't know quite what to think about that.

But I guess it doesn't matter if they serve some purpose. Their very existence is enough.

[CakeGrrl]

104. WTF...OP is being positive about Obama from one perspective,

and in your cynicism, you just had to come shit on it rather than leaving it be?

Nice.

[ruggerson]

106. Maybe he remembers her

from this warm and welcoming post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8543421#8544014

[CakeGrrl]

112. OK, I'm stepping outta this exchange before it devolves into

another "who's more offensive/offended than whom" flameout.

[QC]

117. I remember her declaration that LGBT equality is a state's rights issue.

So progressive!

But hey, she's got hers, right?

[NYC_SKP]

94. k

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[Uzybone]

95. as the first black man to take the job, I expected nothing different

even his allies are looking at him as if he is about to rob the store. Its that Jackie Robinson phenomena, being very good is not enough. He has to be great because every misstep, real or perceived, will be blown completely out of proportion by friends and enemies alike.

[rury]

124. That's right, he has to be great because he's black

only white presdidents/candidates can be mediocre and still be considered "successful."
A black man who was as goofy, uninformed and intellectually incurious as "Dubya" or "McInsane" would never have gotten their party's nomination, much less the presidency.

[dem629]

97. You should always be suspicious about politicians....

their actions and motives. In fact, it's potentially dangerous not to be.

I voted for President Obama agreeing with him on probably 90% of the issues. I want to see him get something done, and I'll reserve judgment on whether he's making progress until he's been in office one year.

[treestar]

127. That's just as bigoted a sentiment as any

Sort of like hating lawyers.

Oh it makes you sound so cool. But you are still judging people as a group and with a stereotype.

[akbacchus_BC]

131. But he has done a lot of things for you to be proud of. Not his fault if

some Dems in the House are not backing him? The major reform in America after health care is electoral reform. Most of the House Dems depend on corporate funding, that has to change, if it does not, then the corporations will win!

[Autonomy]

98. K&R

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[meowomon]

102. I am proud that America voted in an African American Man

But I don't support him 100%. I am a gay American and I have been told I can't marry my "not wife" of 15 years just yet. "My people" (Gays, whether white, black or other) can't serve openly in the military. So those of us on the "far left" who worked our Gay little butts off to get this man elected will just have to wait our turn? We just need to sit back quietly until someone decides we are worthy? I don't think so.

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[Romberry]

108. The impatient far left?

What "far left" are you talking about? Would that be the "far left" that actually believed Obama when he said that a public option was absolutely necessary as a part of health care reform (or maybe Obama when he said it?) Would it be the "far left" that believed Obama when he promised to filibuster the gutting of FISA last year? Would it be the "far left" that believed Obama when he said he's re-open NAFTA? The "far left" that believed Obama when he said he would rein in executive compensation for firms that had received government bailouts? Is "far left" now a talking point for Democrats? Did you steal it from Republicans?

Take your "far left" BS and stick it in your ear.

[webDude]

114. Agreed.

[meowomon]

123. I Agree!

[QC]

138. He can't stick it anywhere: he's tombstoned again. n/t

[dorkulon]

111. "Extreme far left" -- are you sure you don't want to add any more marginalizing adjectives?

Like maybe you could call Obama's Democratic critics, say, "the super-duper ultra turbo maximum hyper uber extreme far left." Maybe that would delegitimize them into compliance.

Bottom line: Your argument is that we shouldn't demand as much from Obama because he is black. That is ridiculous. Extreme far ridiculous.

We're all proud and happy to see a black president, and it isn't lost on anyone the positive impact this must have on young black Americans. But I will criticize him just as much as if he were white, and presumably, he would have it no other way.

[polichick]

116. +1

[ima_sinnic]

133. +1++

[tabasco]

118. You and me both.

It ain't gonna be easy beating back the rotten republicans.

They have all the money.

But Obama is the man to lead the fight.

[Butch350]

122. I hear you Sir.

Think of all the frustration he's probably going through. The repugs are against him and members of his own
democratic party being difficult and now his base is bitching about one thing or another, mostly about something
that benefits them personally and not necessarily good for the entire country.

Man, he's got my respect and trust all the way. He's a rock. (In the words of the torch, "F.O.AH.'s")

[treestar]

125. I do too; I basically agree with his ideas and am just grateful enough

not to have President McCrook, and so happy to see that the rest of the world is relieved that we didn't put that geezer into office with a crazy Veep. The world seems like a rational place again - I'm going to let the President have all the time he needs to straighten as much crap out as he possibly can - he thinks like I do concerning the power of the Presidency and has no intention of leaving other branches out and disrespecting their role, like his predecessor and cabal did.

[burning rain]

128. "Extreme far left."

lulz. You're not even trying to fly below the radar, are you?

[opihimoimoi]

129. That Obama dude is fixing what Bush screwed up....damn him...If President Obama does

what I think he will do...This Nation will soon be stronger and much wiser....thats terrible of him...plays right into RW Hands.

The Depression threat seems to have been averted....The Pubs woulda loved that to happen...but Obama came into office just in

time to reverse the downward spiral...

Its all P Obamas Fault...The Nation is on the mend and we all hate him for it...

[akbacchus_BC]

130. You and me. Thanks for the post! May I say, we shall overcome?

[QC]

135. Ladies and Gentlemen, deep1 has been tombstoned again.

He is that same knuckledragging homophobe who registers every few days, makes a few "I love Obama more than life itself" posts, and then heads for the homophobic baiting like a horny teenage boy lunging for his date's boobies, only to get banned and immediately show up here again and repeat the process.

He sure fooled a lot of you, though.

[Uzybone]

136. You should have pointed out the asshole ASAP

instead of waiting this he/it was TS'ed. I doubt most people had any idea of their history.

[QC]

137. He didn't fully unmask himself until this morning

in this post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=144867&mesg_id=144873

That's his usual trope, the bit about hiding one's sexuality because decent people shouldn't be compared to filthy queers.

He really has become a much more skilled troll this go around. Usually the tombstone descends after no more than 50 or 60 posts, but this time he made it to more than 250.

[ruggerson]

139. I spotted her/him/it a month ago

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8543969#8544613

Where do I go to get my prize? ;)

[QC]

141. I missed that exchange. Funny how that troll stayed around so long after posting

its usual homophobic shit.

Not surprising, of course, but funny.

[LWolf]

142. If only his policies were as inspirational as his race.

:shrug: