Tim Robbins: "We have to reclaim this election"

[Iwillnevergiveup]

On Stephanie Miller this morning, Robbins saying we need to counteract the lies and fear being put out by the Repub think tanks, RNC, insurance companies, teabaggers, etc. and the phony polls that result with a huge march on Washington in support of health care reform. He sees an outpouring like that as undeniable representative proof that that is what Americans want...it would get lots of coverage.

Yes, we have to reclaim this election!

[Iwillnevergiveup]

1. So simple, so well put

Wish Tim would go on Bill Maher's show - he always calls it right.

[Schema Thing]

2. True....

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I'm disappointed that the "stars" who worked to get Obama elected don't seem to care to lend their voice to healthcare for the people.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

3. Yeah, instead we get

crazies like Jon Voight snarkin' and lying it up!:thumbsdown:

[pattmarty]

40. It's weird about Voight. Early in his career he stared in a lot of....................

...........socially poignant films and I would have guessed him a liberal. Did he have an accident and hit his head doing a movie later in his life??? Still an excellent actor though.

[Enthusiast]

43. He must have a racist streak.

There is no better explanation that I've heard.

[lib_wit_it]

13. I had been thinking the exact same thing.

[lib_wit_it]

49. Single Payer for all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv4Aos-TBH8

[IcyPeas]

26. most of them are rich and might be out of touch with the issue?

[Iwillnevergiveup]

4. "Citizen informationizing"

was another phrase thrown into the discussion - more demonstrations throughout the country perhaps in smaller numbers, but with the goal of getting the facts out.

That Coburn video needs to go viral - neighbors helping neighbors is gonna solve the health care crisis???

[santamargarita]

5. Absolutely!

!

[debbierlus]

6. Fine - I 'll come - for HR676 - not for some phony ass ever changing public option

Name the date.

I will fill my car.

But, I ain't driving hundreds of miles to mindlessly chant 'public option'.

I want REAL health reform. SINGLE PAYER.

[Cha]

9. We'll do it without you..we

always have.

[lildreamer316]

37. EVERYBODY in , NOBODY out. n/t

[pleah]

11. +1

[geckosfeet]

21. A letter to send to your congress critter -

Dear Congressman XXX

I write to urge your support for the Weiner Single-Payer Amendment to HR 3200, which will receive a floor vote in September.

The Weiner amendment would replace Division A of HR 3200 with the text of HR 676, the “U.S. National Health Care Act,” sponsored by Rep. John Conyers. This would effectively transform HR 3200 into single-payer legislation. Single-payer is a superior reform to HR 3200 in many ways:

* Single payer would provide universal and comprehensive coverage for all medically necessary services. Unamended, HR 3200 would leave millions uninsured or with skimpy coverage.

* Single payer allows patients free choice of doctor and hospital. Under HR 3200, insurance companies would continue to deny care and restrict access to services.

* Single payer pays for itself by eliminating $400 billion in insurance company administrative waste and redirecting it to care. HR 3200 requires $1 trillion in new revenue in the next decade.

* Single payer establishes proven and effective cost-containing mechanisms to ensure that benefits are sustainable over the long run. HR 3200 lacks effective cost controls.

The Weiner amendment presents an historic opportunity for Members to register their support for single-payer national health insurance as the best way to solve the U.S. healthcare crisis. It additionally will provide a vote that Members can stand by when approached by constituents.

While we recognize the political imperative to pass healthcare reform, it is important to remember that the purpose of reform is to ease the burden for all Americans. Only single-payer healthcare meets that goal—both medically and economically. The Weiner Amendment deserves your vote.

Your Name

[Apollo11]

30. Sure - why not? You can always make your own sign.

I guess we can all agree on the need to provide quality affordable healthcare for all Americans.

If someone wants to hold a sign that says "SINGLE PAYER NOW" or "MEDICARE FOR ALL" I'm sure nobody would mind one bit.

[lildreamer316]

36. I'm with you. n/t

[Dave From Canada]

7. Help me understand. If the Dem senators and congress people know that the healthcare lies are lies,

and that if the healthcare plan passed, people would like it, and it would help with many current problems, why do they care what the liars are saying? Why don't the 60 Dem senators vote for it, and the 250+ Dem congress people vote for it?

[Jackpine Radical]

10. Good questions, actually. Let me try to match them with answers

that are not necessarily equally good.

First, those politicians are getting a lot of campaign money from the Dark Side that they use to but expensive TV advertising, and that has always been the surest ticket to re-election.

Second, many of them may be looking forward to lucrative lobbying jobs--i.e. becoming paid agents of the Dark Side--once they leave office, so they are making their bones.

Third, there seem to be significant numbers of Americans who for a variety of reasons are impervious to evidence, rationality, etc., and will continue to accept what they are told by their corrupt churches and mass media and to go along with the lies (maybe because those lies feed their addictions to their own internal anger chemistry), and in some places these unreasoning hate-heads are numerous enough to swing elections.

[Usrename]

14. Trying to figure these people out can cause psychotic episodes.

Don't try!

Obviously the party leadership is populated with a lot of corporatists that believe in K Street. In the primaries, during the DailyKos debate, Clinton actually expressed the opinion that K Street bribery is how the voice of the people gets heard in Washington. She actually believed that, at least I have no reason to believe she was being dishonest.

For the most part, these are not stupid people. They have trained themselves to see things a certain way because they know it is necessary to do so in order to be in office. Most of them seem to be motivated by authentic altruism, which makes them believe their presence in Washington is actually helping. They might not ever get the actual reality of what is going on, even if a very large group of angry people with pitchforks starts poking them.

Asked if she would continue to take money from Washington lobbyists:


“Yes, I will. I will. You know, a lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans. They actually do. They represent nurses. They represent, you know, social workers. They represent _ yes, they represent corporations. They employ a lot of people. The idea that somehow a contribution is going to influence you — I just ask you to look at my record. I have been fighting for the same thing, my core values have not changed. But I do want to be the president for everybody.”


video> http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/clinton-and-the-lobbyists/

[Sebastian Doyle]

17. Most of the ones opposing reform are whores of the insurance industry

(no offense to sex workers)

[edc]

8. The main advantage of being

a right winger is that television and radio will go 24/7 with anything you pull out of your ass. "Saddam attacked the twin towers" and "Death Panels" are good examples of this. By the time the same media that trumpets this shit initially gets around to refuting it belatedly(except for FOX of course) half the people believe it. Mission accomplished. This free pass does not apply to liberals. They are held to a higher standard, and if they do anything foolish they become the targets of instant media ridicule until they apologize.

[Enthusiast]

46. You said it, edc!

I receive many e-mails from left wing activist groups requesting that I donate for any number of worthy causes.

Of course I can't donate to ALL the worthy causes. But there is one cause that should be the most important and number one on our agenda. That cause is media reform or media fairness. If we can't get significant media reform we had best create our own network that presents progressive ideas with as much vigor as Faux News promotes corporate interests.

[mudstump]

12. YES!, a march on Washington..

exactly what I have been thinking. Where's all the community organizing? What's the date?

[LuckyLib]

15. A can't ignore DC march where the crowds are overwhelming.

I'll be there.

Welcome to DU!:hi:

[Sebastian Doyle]

18. For YOUR crowd? 9/12

Don't forget to dress for the occasion.

[Myrina]

38. OMG

How embarassing!!! She must have had an extra dose of stupid when she was a child.

:wow:

[MasonJar]

16. Thank you, Tim Robbins, for always being on the right side of any issue IMHO.

Please speak out often and loud.

[zeemike]

19. Yes I am all for a march...but don't delude yourselves

That the media will cover it like you think they will just because it is big.
They are masters at marginilization...you should know that from all the past anti war rallies.
But it is not Washington that is the problem...It is K street and the corporation's that are calling the shots.
When you just look at say Fox news...Why are there not major demonstrations outside of Fox HQ?...I mean if they can get away with the racist crap they are dealing out on a daily basis and we do nothing as a group to stop them.
To me the question is why does the leadership of liberal organizations do nothing but raise money and scare us with the boogie man just like the right wing does?

[Iwillnevergiveup]

20. Well then, we take a page from the teabaggers' playbook

YOUTUBE.COM

:hi:

[NBachers]

23. 400,000 liberal marchers + 250 screaming fascist loonies on the other side

and it'll be portrayed in the media as half-and-half.

And also and whats the carbon footprint to get all them libruls to Washington anyway???

But I got some actual vacation time coming. I might even make the bus ride from San Fran.

[zeemike]

50. I would go too, but not with any illusions.

The only kind of protest that will do any good is civil disobedence in a non violent way.
Let us all go and plan to camp out their untill we have results or they call in the military to remove us....like they did with the Bonus Army in the 30s

[ChiciB1]

48. I Agree... Been To Many Marches & They Are Heady Experiences, BUT

in the past couple of decades... DEMOCRATS, or Anti-War, or now perhaps Pro-Health care may NOT GET COVERAGE!!!

What gets coverage are CRAZY LOONY, Gun Toting IDIOTS!! MSM flames the fire, but forgets REALITY!!

[Historic NY]

22. This election was settled in Nov at the ballot box some are now proposing the bullet box..

it was clearly decided by a landslide that they just can't seem to justify.

[rhett o rick]

24. Tim and some of his friends should buy a network. nm

[MomforObama]

25. Here are some answers:

5 Myths About Health Care Around the World

"As Americans search for the cure to what ails our health-care system, we've overlooked an invaluable source of ideas and solutions: the rest of the world. All the other industrialized democracies have faced problems like ours, yet they've found ways to cover everybody -- and still spend far less than we do.

I've traveled the world from Oslo to Osaka to see how other developed democracies provide health care. Instead of dismissing these models as "socialist," we could adapt their solutions to fix our problems. To do that, we first have to dispel a few myths about health care abroad..."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/21/AR2009082101778.html

[PBS Poll-435]

27. Ummm... What?

Tim Robbins? He's a dick.

http://www.tim-robbins.com/RalphNader.htm

[tkmorris]

32. You might disagree with the reasons put forth in that essay

But it would be hard to argue that he is insincere, or that his choice of action was made with bad intention. Calling him a "dick" for that is juvenile at best.

[grahamhgreen]

28. How bout Obama calls for a march for single-payer?

[Apollo11]

31. The President is the one person who cannot organize a march on Washington.

But there are organizations who could and should do it.

Like MoveOn.org and Democracy For America

[grahamhgreen]

45. Of course he can. It's called leading.

[Myrina]

39. How 'bout Obama just Executive Order's single payer?

Period.

[zeemike]

51. I suggested that some time back

Just issue an EO that tells the HHS to enroll anyone in Medicare that cannot afford health insurance....game over

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

52. How about Obama just dissolve the Senate?

Fear of this battle station will keep the regional governors in line.

[DesertDiamond]

29. Tim, you're one of my heroes!

[NecklyTyler]

33. We won the election

We won the White House

We hold the Senate with a filibuster proof 60 votes

We hold the House

It is time to just steamroller the Republicans, and get on with fixing this country

[Christa]

34. K & Highly rec'd nt

[tabbycat31]

35. yes (having come from a screaming match towhhall last nite)

[Jackeens]

41. Kick

[Enthusiast]

42. I agree with Tim 100%, that said

there is no way to reclaim the election. The M$M is colored by tea bagger insanity while reasonable points of view are entirely ignored. The media is UNDER CONTROL. Too late.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

44. O.K., now SERIOUSLY

The Ted Kennedy Health Care for All Bill (2009).

[ChiciB1]

47. Shout It LOUD Tim!! We Have MISSED You AND Your Wife! Start The March...

Light The Fire...WE WILL FOLLOW!

[ChiciB1]

53. GLAD TO SEE THIS THREAD RE-SURFACE!! We Need More Tims!

Hollywood has been seriously quiet for the most part! RISE UP and give us a shout!!!