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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:37 PM
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Brand New Zogby Poll: Bush 46% Kerry 43%
The new Zogby poll conducted Sept 17-19 is out already:

Bush 46 (no change from 9/8-9)
Kerry 43 (up from 42)

Bush's approval rating is 47%, disapproval rating 52%

Country moving in "Wrong direction" 50%
Country moving in "Right direction" 43%
This is an improvement from 48-46 "wrong" in last poll.

Bush re-elect 47%
Someone new 50%

Kerry leads on four of five top issues, but Bush has a commanding lead on "who is best to fight war on terrorism" leading 75-19, Zogby says that Kerry has to stop the "bleeding" on this issue.

Per Zogby: "Kerry's problem continues to be he has not energized his base as much as Bush has energized his own..."

http://www.zogby.com/
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:38 PM
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1. Energizing the Dem base is something KE04 can do.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:40 PM
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2. I am fairly energized! nt
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:44 PM
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5. If I was any more energized my hair would burst into flames
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:43 PM
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3. Hell if I get any more "energized"...
I'm going to have a coronary!

Sorry Mr. Zogby but the Dems have never been more energized and motivated on one singular issue in a long time. Every single one of us want Shrub out with every fiber of our being!
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:45 PM
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6. Zogby is full of shit on that point
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:30 PM
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13. no, what Zogby is saying is...
dem support for Kerry isn't as high as it could be.

around 80-85% of dems are voting for kerry, while 90+% of repubs are voting for Bush. That is an area Kerry can improve on more easily than most others.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:44 PM
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4. I'm raising my hand as "energized"
I can't believe that only 19% of poll respondents thought Kerry was better at fighting the war on terrorism. I wonder how that question was worded.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:45 PM
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7. Approval ratings below 50% spell Bad News for Bonzo
Disapproval 52% isn't good news for them, either.

"Someone new" 50%, but Kerry's only 43%? That's bound to rise, isn't it?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:46 PM
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8. Wanna bet?
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:46 PM
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9. Energized since 2000
what the heck is he talking about? We just need to realized that Republicans do republicans a lot better than we do. We need to go back to being Democrats! We need to stop taking our base for granted by focusing only on the suburban,independent and undecided voters.
At this point in the game there is not such thing as undecided. You either know who you are voting for or you plan to keep your ass at home!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:52 PM
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10. I was at the "Willy St. Fair" today
a very progressive community on the Isthmus in Madison, Wi. It hate's Bush. Lot's of Kerry stickers and presence, but also lots of Green presence, even David Cobb attended. Many progressives that I spoke to say that they don't feel Kerry has reached out to the base and particularly anti-war supporters and the African-American community. One African-American Baptist minister I spoke to said that he doesn't see "strong motivation" for his members to vote for Kerry. I said, "what about Bush as a motivation." He said, "my congregation likes to vote for someone rather than against someone. We loved Clinton and Gore, but there is no connection with Kerry." He said that yes, most of his members who will vote will go democratic but the problem is that the African-American vote might not be as strong as it was in terms of turnout for Kerry as it was for Clinton and Gore.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:22 PM
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11. Good grief!
Voting this year isn't some damn philosphical excercise. It's a matter of life and death. And if Bush doesn't get booted out of office, I wouldn't be surprised to see him start tossing some of our nuclear bombs around. That's pretty strong motivation for me!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:24 PM
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12. I agree
just reporting what I heard. I think most people on DU are motivated. Otherwise we wouldn't be on a political website--we are concerned with issues. So just because we are motivated it doesn't mean everyone is.
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deckerd Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 12:23 AM
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16. Affluent, "progressive" communities
around the nation (including middle class black suburbs) have been very little that I have seen in terms of energy over the election. Methinks that Bush would make HUGE inroads in places like Madison if he dropped opposition to abortion and embraced further tax cuts or IRS abolition... aging baby boomers and young blacks and "urban tech elites" with cell phones, that the DLC considers the heart & soul of their party, are increasingly voting with their pocketbooks first and foremost. For now that means the yuppie fake greens and their CornCobb candidate, whom even Nader fans despise as a hypocrite.

Don't assume that just because everyone on the political blogosphere is energized means that anyone else is energised. Most of the people on the 'net with the inclination already visit these sites.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:22 AM
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17. I disagree
to a point. Those black people will not vote for bush. They just will not vote at all, because they feel the same old same old.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:33 PM
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15. Zogby just means a some of dems aren't voting for kerry
most polls say Bush is getting around 15% of the dem vote, while Kerry just gets 5% of repub vote.

that's what the polls say at least, real life seems different to me...
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:32 PM
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14. How would Zogby explain this discrepancy ??
"Bush 46 (no change from 9/8-9)
Kerry 43 (up from 42)

Bush's approval rating is 47%, disapproval rating 52%"
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If 46% support Bush and his approval rating is 47%, then how do you explain Kerry support at only 43% if 52% disapprove of Bush? If 6% more disapprove of Bush than support him, then is there a possibility or even a likelihood that that 6% will maybe support John Kerry in the election. If so, that would move Kerry up to 49%...

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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:08 AM
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18. Energized base= codeword for getting minorities
out to vote...

Kerry has failed to appeal to minorities in the same fashion as Clinton.

Bush will get his fundy base come hell or high water...
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:37 AM
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20. this is what I'm most afraid of
but it doesn't mean that Kerry can't do it.
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MisterGamut Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:12 AM
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19. Personally, I hope Kerry does lose the popular vote
Just so long as he wins the electors. And I hope he just barely gets teh electors. I hope it all comes down to one close swing state. That way, we can all hate the electoral college equally, and maybe we can finally get rid of the bitch.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:55 AM
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21. I am beginning to think it's possible.
I'd love it frankly.
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