Would you be supportive of an automatic trigger bill by Congress (Public Option debate)

[Divine Discontent]

Would you be supportive of an automatic "trigger" bill by Congress, that would enact a Public Option if insurance companies failed to meet requirements over a couple years?

[Mojambo]

1. No. I will not support being compelled to deal with these vultures.

No public option, and I'm out.

It's a deal breaker. Period.

[Divine Discontent]

3. Yes.

I didn't want to put my opinion in my OP. I agree with you, fully.


and on a different note,

[waiting for hope]

2. Who is to say that there will be any oversight

of such a plan? I can see it now, they will bitch, moan and whine that they can not cover their bloated costs, therefore they have to keep their costs high - maybe even holding out their fat, chubby little hands for a bail out. I chose Other, for by that time I may be living in another country.

[Divine Discontent]

4. exactly, they will complain they can't meet guidelines & push for changes to the bill, and, frankly,

the more this is delayed - the more likely the coporations get their way - all of us, MUST contact our senators & challenge them to vote for a public option or NOTHING, or if they already are for it, push someone else's senator. Bill Nelson hasn't replied back to my requests for an explanation of whether he's for or against it (and based on MadFloridian's posts, his comments to corporation luncheon guests is that he's against it).

[Enrique]

5. I don't believe for a second it would be automatic

I think we'd be right back in two years having this same debate, this time it would be "should we pull teh trigger?" :eyes:

[stray cat]

6. Would you prefer no changes at all made to health care as it is currently?

I want a public option. However, the other choice may be no change and lets keep things as it is and hope something better comes along some day and that the GOP doesn't get to change it in 2012.

[Mojambo]

9. Actually yeah.

I'd rather not be forced to give insurance companies my money.

A bill passed with a mandate and without a public option only strengthens these insurance companies power and makes it harder to get real change down the road.

You think their lobby is strong now? Just wait until they've got premiums coming in from every single person in the country. That's a lot of dough to pour into the pockets of politicians in any future attempt to reform.

[Better Believe It]

12. Yes. That would be better than adopting the insurance industry and drug cartel health care plan.

Haven't we been ripped off enough by them?

[Dawgs]

15. A 'trigger' means no changes at all. What's the difference?

The health insurance industry still wins.

[Divine Discontent]

22. hmm, well, you have an argument. but we have to draw the line in the sand at some point or

generation after generation of us are just going to die one after another, as we have for decades now on this fight for health care instead of corporate profits. We have the largest majority we're more than likely going to ever get in our lives with a big Democratic majority in the house, and nearly 60 seats in the senate and a Democratic president - if they can't be arm-twisted to do the public option, LET ALONE Universal Health Care, then we're screwn!

[polichick]

7. I'll say it again - the trigger was pulled decades ago. nt

[dflprincess]

13. That is so true.

[NYC Democrat]

8. depends on how the trigger is structured.

[Dawgs]

18. Doesn't matter. Won't be hard for Republicans to block any attempt of using it.

A bill with a trigger will be looked at as a loss by the left and the media. Obama needs to start acting like the guy we all wanted in the white house...the guy that promised a public option last year.

[Jennicut]

10. Well, insurance companies would fail anyway....they are failing now

It would not take too long for the "trigger" to take place.
Hence, why not just skip it and go for public option.

On the other hand, I want something to pass. I hate that the WH has to play games with the idiots in Congress but what are we gonna do with them?

[Better Believe It]

11. As in the Bush drug prescription benefit plan, the trigger will never be pulled

[Dawgs]

14. Hell fucking NO!!! A 'trigger' means nothing changes, and insurance wins.

I'm not worried though, because the real progressives in Congress will not vote for it...at least they better not.

[IndianaGreen]

16. I answered OTHER because my real answer is a simple 'No'

without the editorial commentary in your poll. Triggers and a 2-year delay are nothing but a gimmick to kill the public option.

[Dawgs]

17. I voted for a public option; not a trigger that will never be used.

We could pick up seats, or stay where we're at with a public option. A bill with a trigger will be like 1994 all over again.

[IndianaGreen]

19. No one voted for insurance reform. We voted for universal health care!

The one promised by the likes of FDR, Truman, and Clinton.

[Joe Bacon]

20. Look at the trigger that was in the Pill Bill!

Oh the trigger was there, but golly gee, it just never came into play. I wonder why.

Now they want a trigger in this bill

Well, FOOL ME ONCE...

[Divine Discontent]

21. damn straight! not again. if we don't get real reform - Pres. Obama will not win re-election &

we'll be stuck with Mittens because of his and Congressional Democrats failure. There are FAR too many comments coming from the WH that they're willing to not have the Public Option if they can have bipartisan agreement on cost containment & other guarantees - and sorry, that's NOT what many people voted for - and they will be very very bitter.

Rightfully so.

I'm very interested to see what FINALLY comes down with all of this, but I hope that the WH doesn't think that at least SOMETHING being passed is useful, because if real reform doesn't occur the Dems will lose everything we've worked very hard for the past 4 years.

[Union Yes]

23. Instead, let's trigger the removal of profitability from the failure known as for profit HC..

with a strong PO to start and by pushing for Single Payer after.

Health Care reform is testing the morality of this nation.

So far, America is failing that test.

But I believe that if we remain strong in this fight, WE THE PEOPLE WILL WIN THIS FIGHT for the soul of our nation.

Peace

[Sky Masterson]

24. I'll believe in a trigger

actually going into effect when this trigger re-animates.

This trigger thing is a bullshit way to pass something without changing anything

[Sebastian Doyle]

25. No Public Option. No reform. NO DEAL.

No more enabling criminals. :grr:

[Divine Discontent]

26. exactly, and I'm seeing these comments that Weiner & Pelosi are saying that a trigger may pass

BARF! If they wanna kill the party, go right ahead! 3/4 of the comments on other threads, and 3/4 of the votes here are for firm NO votes on the trigger bullshit!