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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:15 AM
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I want to thank the paranoid, hate-filled, fearful right-wingers.
Through their blind hate and paranoia, they have highly publicized President Obama's speech to the school kids. When the transcript is released, parents and other adults will grab it and read it. Many of these people wouldn't have even realized a speech was going to take place. They will see it is sensible and good advice. They will hear stories of children who feel invested in this presidency. And, because of the rights perpetual foaming at the mouth, more of the older school children will be eager to hear what has caused so much fuss.

The children whose parents censor the message, will get the gist of it through second hand accounts and will wonder what their parents are so afraid of. Like FDR said so long ago, I welcome their hate.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:34 AM
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1. Blowback is the silver lining
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 10:35 AM by CakeGrrl
though it won't be as visible to us as I'd like. I know that's what will occur in some corners.

Thanks to the MSM aiding and abetting the hatemongers and paranoiacs, a lot of people know that they've got their panties in a bunch over the President. And since this society is primed for trainwrecks, a lot of people will be curious to know what it's about.

And it'll be a whole lotta nothin'. Joke will eventually be on them.
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veritasvg Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:35 AM
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2. But...
...this isn't FDR's world. This isn't the Great Depression. It isn't even close.

This isn't the United States of northern California and Massachusetts!
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:45 AM
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3. What is your point?
:shrug:
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veritasvg Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:50 AM
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5. My Point Is...
...that Obama will, no matter what happens in 2010, have to govern more from the middle or what happened to Van Jones will inevitably happen to most of his appointees. Eventually, it will happen to Obama himself. Paterson was talking about this several weeks ago.

We govern between the forty yard lines. This is how it works and it's not gonna change.

We can disagree if you want but I've been around this game for a few decades and I'm telling ya...I know how it works.

This is not Europe. Trust me.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:12 AM
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7. Oh really.
I was sure this was Europe. :eyes:
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veritasvg Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:21 AM
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8. Yes...
...and that's my next point. If you want to live in a place in which government controls a large portion of people's everyday lives and has confiscatory taxation to pay for it, move there. No one's stopping you.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:34 AM
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10. How are confiscatory insurance premiums better? nt
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:40 AM
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11. SO you prefer
taxation (premiums) and then denial by an insurance company???

Somalia is the republican utopia ya know.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:22 PM
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21. Go back to freeperville
You may have been around a long time but we've all been online long enough to know where right-wing talking points like that come from.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:24 PM
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22. But, see, I have actually lived in Europe. I lived in both France and Spain. The government did
NOT control a large portion of people's everyday lives.

All taxation is, by definition, confiscatory.
Its sounds intellectual and scary to your friends, but "confiscatory taxation" is just another way of saying taxation.

By the way, many people would love to move to Europe, but someone actually is stopping them.
Europeans.
Immigration to Europe is very difficult.

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Chef Eric Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:33 PM
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24. Nobody is stopping me from staying and fighting for small, incremental change.
And THAT is what is good about this country.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:43 PM
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25. Oh, fuck off and get lost.
Go back to Freepland.

Oh, and bite me.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:28 AM
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9. What does VanJones have to do with governing from the middle?
You're sounding fringy there veritasvg. Do you listen to Beck?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:03 PM
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14. What does that have to do with the RW nutjobs being their own worst enemies?
How does that even relate to the topic of this thread?

:crazy:

NGU.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:06 PM
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15. Who Is Paterson
and since you're so good at predicting the future, who will be the next appointee to resign from the administration?

"We govern between the forty yard lines" - How do you explain the Bush administration?








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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:09 PM
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16. Oh please. Paranoid much?
:tinfoilhat:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:33 PM
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18. Did Reagan or Bush "govern between the forty yard lines"?

No... your heroes governed at the right-end of the field.


... and it has led this country to the brink of financial ruin.



THAT'S the America that people that think like you created.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:25 PM
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23. "We govern between the forty yard lines." Not bad if the goal posts weren't shifted 35 yards. n/t
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:49 AM
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4. The surefire
way to make sure a kid does something is tell him he can't do it. To wit: we had a creek running near our property. My mom told us over and over again to not go there. Guess where we spent ALL of our time as kids? The creek.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:52 AM
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6. It is Karma my friend.. Karma...
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:42 AM
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12. My only problem is
FDR hate-ted them back... Obama seems to consider their hate as opinion.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:02 PM
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13. They always overplay their hate
into the blood sucking zombie zone.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:33 PM
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19. Here's the full transcript of the speech
It's even better and more inspiring than I had hoped it would be. :bounce:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/
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Old Studentka Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:13 PM
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20. Kinda reminds me of Grover Cleveland
"They love him most for the enemies he's made."
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:51 PM
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26. K & R
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