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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 06:57 PM Original message |
Obama has two wars to clean up |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Kerry is a smart man. Thanks for the article. K&R nt |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Kerry's brilliant and I feel so |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Some people |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
4. Patience and resolve to get the strategy right will pay off in the end. I appreciate Sen. Kerry |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. Afghanistan has been an evolving conflict |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Evolving since 1979 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. You mean the U.S. was at war with Afghanistan before the war was launched, in 2000? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yeah, silly strawmen are for kids. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Talk about stupid. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. You are correct. context and history are meaningless |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Context and history are relevant, but they don't negate reality. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Seems a lot of people have unique convenient realities these days |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. We put the Taliban in power, and the Taliban has been funded by Saudi Arabia |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I saw it, but the ball was in motion beforehand |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Hamburg was a cell. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Hamburg was were the plot was hatched by Mohamed Atta |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Did you? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You and your wiki |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. The Architect of 9/11 (OMG, it's an article about urban planning) |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Did you even read the point the author was trying to make? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. You erroneously concluded that the title meant he was the architect of 9/11. n/t |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Atta's thesis in urban planning opens a window into his motives |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. It shows his motives for joining an anti-Western movement, but there is nothing in this |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Why not go back further than that to the creation of modern day Afghanistan |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. No time machine, but history to judge what subjegating them to our will may create |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Did you listen to the hearings? |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Depends on how you mean that |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Just to clarify... |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. Some people just can't understand that Obama didn't create this enormous mess |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Well, Lyndon Johnson might just as well brought the troops home from Vietnam in 1968 |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Too bad LBJ didn't have a crystal ball to predict the future for him. n/t |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 01:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Yes, hindsight is 20/20 and none of us know what we would have done |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. The better analogy would be the decision in 1965 to greatly expand the war |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. I had originally thought to write that. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. All true |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Bingo. n/t |
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rmp yellow (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
18. Do you guys think Karzai stole the elections? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Karzai stole the election. The evidence of massive fraud is incontrovertible. |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. It wasn't in self defense |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. "Afghanistan offered to turn over Bin Laden if the US proved his involvement in 9-11. " |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. The friggin resolution can state anything it wants |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Even Feingold, in the SFRC last week, rejected the idea of pulling out immediately |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. The Afghans did not provide a sanctuary |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 06:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. That is simply not true |
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jeffsupersaiyan (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
22. IRAQ PULL OUT FOR THE WAR ON TERRORISM |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Using all capitals does not lend coherence to these fragmented thoughts |
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RJDem (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
28. When he actually does it, I will congratulate him |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
42. The trouble is that he's not cleaning them up. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
45. Two wars to END. |
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