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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:54 PM
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We didn't lose the Olympics, Rio won them
As a former midwesterner, I would have loved to see Chicago get the Olympic games. Chicago is a world class city that would have shown us in a great light. But South America has never, not one single solitary time, in the modern olympic era hosted any Olympic games. No summer games, no winter games, nothing. Rio deserved the games. They had a good, technically strong bid from a region that wasn't just under represented, it was unrepresented. That region deserved the games, they got them. It wasn't some anti Obama conspiracy, it wasn't hatred of Bush's foreign policy. It was a world class bid, from a world class city, from a place that waited over a century to get the games.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:55 PM
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1. That's a perspective that I can support.
:-) :hi:
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:58 PM
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2. It would look bad if Chicago got them after the President's visit, anyway
Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 08:58 PM by LittleBlue
Considering the lukewarm response Chicagoans gave the idea, it would look like some bad bias.

Congrats, Rio. :)
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 08:32 AM
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20. It's probably just as well we didn't get the bid to host the Olympics.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:01 PM
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3. Indeed.
Good post. :thumbsup:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:03 PM
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4. Certainly you speak to a piece of the puzzle and Chicago could be in the driver's seat for 2020
if inclined on the old sympathy vote which I think may have been the overriding factor. I think the committee was pretty much compelled to be inclusive of S. America, especially after Rio illustrated their exclusion so clearly and publicly.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:41 PM
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12. Mayor Daley has already said the city will not apply for 2020.
With Rio getting them in 2016 they will change hemispheres in 2020 so Chicago would not have a chance and will not waste the effort applying.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:04 PM
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5. You're a rock of sense, dsc.
Great post - and spot on.

:toast:
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:05 PM
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6. Exactly. The selection of Rio isn't a put-down of the US...........
It's a compliment to the citizens of Rio and Brazil.

I say, "Let's Samba!"
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:06 PM
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7. A nation at war should not host any Olympics. nt
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:12 PM
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8. There's some good reasoning to be had...
over at 538.com as to why Rio might not deserve it. Personally, I don't really care.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:27 PM
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9. Absolutely!
I pay very little attention to sports of any kind, but as a native Chicagoan, I did give this whole Olympics thing some notice. However, once I saw Rio was on the list, I figured there was no way ANYONE else had a chance.


:yourock: Rio!




Tansy Gold
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:35 PM
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10. i certainly don't hold it against them
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:37 PM
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11. If Obama had not gone it would have cheated Brazil out of competing against the "A" team.
I'm sure Obama knew we were not going to get the games. But to show we respect the games enough to deserve consideration in the future, he had to go.

It had to raise the spirits of Rio folks to know that they won in an even competition. And, we are not sore losers. I'm good.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:46 PM
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13. wisdom (nt)
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:47 PM
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14. Agreed, and the heads of state of Spain and Japan went too.
Did they lose "political capital" too?

Probably not in any significant way. It's just something you DO if your country has an Olympic bid in the works.

Better for Obama to go and lose fairly than to NOT go and lose fairly.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:53 PM
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15. Yay, I got the 5th rec!
Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 09:54 PM by Withywindle
I'm honestly really tired of the American exceptionalism at work that suggests we were somehow entitled to the Olympics (AGAIN?) and if we lost them, it MUST be something to do with US or OUR PRESIDENT.


No, it was simply Rio's time, not Chicago's. Brazil is an up-and-coming power; it's the fifth largest country in the world; it most certainly has a proud sports history; it's beautiful and has a pleasant climate; and of course it's also no stranger to throwing ginormous parties full of millions of foreigners on a regular basis. Not only that but its time zones are very similar to that of the US, so hello, prime-time live broadcasting!

Not only was it their time, they just *wanted* it more.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:04 PM
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16. Everyone expected it to come down to Rio and Chicago as the final two
It was off putting to have Chicago shut out in the first round of voting, but Rio was a favorite for the win all along.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:07 PM
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17. Your reasoning has as much entitlement in it as the people you argue against.
Your argument is that they are due to have them, not that they won them.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 07:32 AM
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19. what part of technically strong bid was unclear?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:46 PM
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18. a most sensible view.
quite frankly, right now I am sick to death of the olympics. the usoc is screwing this community big time, thanks to the spineless cretins who run it to the detriment of the citizenry.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:14 AM
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21. kick
nt
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:08 PM
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22. K&R
These people implying we "lost" it, assume it was ours to lose in the first place.

I'm thrilled for Brazil. :-)
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