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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:19 PM
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My biggest problem with Mc Chrystal's London comments...
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 12:34 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
My biggest problem with Mc Chrystal's London comments is not that a military man publicly deviated from the President.

It is easy to imagine situations where some level of free public discourse by military leaders on military matters, short of out-right MacArthur-style insubordination, is desirable.

I wish some professional military had been a tad more open in expressing reservations about Iraq. An informed public ought to know if there are serious military objections to policy since military leaders do have potentially valuable perspectives. (Most of Hitlers generals were not Nazis. They were career military deferring to national politics in an exageration of "good soldier" mode. Not that I'm calling Bush Hitler or anything... :eyes: )

My big problem with Mc Chrystal's London comments is that this shit tends to happen only when a Democrat is President!

When a Republican is President the chain of command is a fetish.

When a Democrat is President the chain of command is a "serving suggestion."

The partisan culture within the military must be rooted out.


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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:23 PM
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1. The partisan culture AND the religious culture should be rooted out.
They are largely connected.

You make a good point.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:24 PM
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3. An ironic "Amen" to that
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:25 PM
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4. ...yeap, mostly right wing because EIB networds exclusives with military radio stations
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:24 PM
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2. Yeap, I'd make sure McChrystal was minimized and just had to follow orders. This isn't ...
...some random comment he was making or some suggestion he had already made known.

My trust needle would tend to tilt towards "don't" when folk do crap like he did
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:44 PM
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5. LOL! What sort of moran would unrec this?
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 12:52 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
The DU personality parade continues.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:55 PM
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7. yeah.... someone unrec'ed my inquire thread too...dam it was only a ? not a commentary....jerks
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:17 AM
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15. There are a certain number that will unrec you if they think you are
overly for Obama or against him.

Good OP.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:54 PM
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6. May I suggest a purge of, err... I mean budget cuts for the military
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 02:01 PM
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8. + a brazilion
let them submit a list of cuts and don't cuts then do the opposite. the m.i.c. is a cancer.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 03:03 PM
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9. Actually, what tends to happen under someone like Bush is that
he just fires everyone (Gen. Shinseki, Gen. Peter Pace, etc.) who doesn't agree with him, with help from the MSM (as in when Gen. John Batiste who was fired by CBS).

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:20 PM
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13. I was just thinking of Gen. Shinseki
when I was reading the OP. Thanks for the info on the additional bush Generals.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 03:05 PM
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10. Totally agree, there is no reason for them to be more conservative
than the general public.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:41 PM
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11. My problem is the movement of his lips in places where the words can be heard (nt)
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spaten Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:00 PM
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12. McChrystal needs to be in prison
and I am not exaggerating.
A private would be.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:47 AM
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16. How many privates have we imprisoned for disagreeing
with the President of the United States?
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:01 PM
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14. McChrystal needs to be fired.
His public propagandizing is outstepping the authority of his position.

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