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Wed Oct-07-09 07:35 PM
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How many Senate Democrats will join the republicans in filibuster of the health care legislation? |
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Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 07:47 PM by AlinPA
Some on DU (weeks ago) have said that it would make it through filibuster but we could get 51 votes. What's the thinking now? I'm thinking Lieberman (I) joins the republicans as well as Democrats Lincoln and Nelson (NE). Any more?
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:37 PM
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1. Lieberman isn't a Democrat, he is an independent |
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:40 PM
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3. ..as well as a total asshole.... |
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:44 PM
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6. And I would bet my right eye that he will join the Republicans in a filibuster. |
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Wed Oct-07-09 08:39 PM
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19. Will he risk his chairmanship? |
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Per Rachel, the Dem leadership will move to take chairmanships away from any dem who filibusters. I believe that they are free to vote against the bill, but they may be in trouble if they join the R's to filibuster.
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Wed Oct-07-09 08:42 PM
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21. She said that two power brokers on the left were encouraging this strategy. |
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Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 08:43 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
It's not iron clad.
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Wed Oct-07-09 09:10 PM
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22. At this point, I would like to see him removed from his chairmanship soooooo much.... |
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Wed Oct-07-09 08:37 PM
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Unquestionably an asshole |
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:49 PM
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11. I edited in (I) for him, had him separate from the two Democrats. Thanks. nt |
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:37 PM
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2. The Democrats will vote for cloture. |
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Along with a few republicans.
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:44 PM
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7. That's up in the air, isn't it? Blue Dogs are not on our side on this. |
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:48 PM
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But since this post is about prophecy, I though I would do some prophesying.
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:53 PM
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13. No Blue Dogs per se in Senate n/t |
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:56 PM
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16. Rather they are Blue Cross Democrats. |
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Wed Oct-07-09 08:37 PM
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18. Evan Bayh is in the back pocket of Wellpoint |
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Bayh's wife sits on the board of several health corporations.
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:55 PM
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15. Ben Nelson said he doesn't think the bill should be passed through reconciliation and he did not |
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rule out joining the Repubs. AGAINST cloture.
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:41 PM
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4. What a Debbie Downer. You mean: How many Republicans will break ranks and vote for health care |
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:45 PM
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9. Dole wants watered down bullshit legislation. |
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:54 PM
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14. I can't argue with that approach to it. nt |
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:43 PM
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5. The Dems will fall in line on this one and vote for cloture. |
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The "bill" will garner 51 on the final vote.
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:45 PM
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8. I have little confidence in Harry Reid |
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I don't think he can deliver.
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Wed Oct-07-09 08:41 PM
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20. Per Rachel, he is threatening chairmanships if they filibuster |
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He is OK with them not voting for the bill, but not filibustering. Hear that Baucus and Lieberman?
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:52 PM
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12. None. Sanders votes nay. Lieberman ditto... |
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...his chairmanships are at risk.
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Wed Oct-07-09 07:57 PM
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17. Ben Nelson said he doesn't think the bill should be passed through reconciliation and he did not |
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say he WOULDN'T vote against cloture.
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Wed Oct-07-09 09:12 PM
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23. My gut of truthiness increasingly says yes. |
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With the increasing support for the public option, even the conservadems are realizing that they'll be tarred & feathered if they vote against health care reform.
When it comes to a floor vote, there will be an all-out push to get the Dems voting unanimously for cloture, and as Rachel mentioned, there's the threat of losing chairs for those who don't vote for cloture.
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