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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:48 AM
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The Nobel committee was trying to make up for the Olympics going to Rio.


:shrug:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:53 AM
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1. Nah everyone knows Scandinavians are socialists and O loves Muslims
This was all worked out during the plot to fake his birth certificate.

It's the end of America. The END I'm Telling YOU !!111!!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:18 AM
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12. Finally, someone who got the joke. n/t
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:35 AM
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21. I knew it was a joke, pnwmom.
:hug:

Either that or the message would contain a link to Freak Republic! :rofl:

And I agree with Whistler162's post regarding lottery numbers! :D
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:59 AM
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2. That's not very likely. Just because it's "Europe" doesn't mean it's the same group
It is highly unlikely there is any coordination or consideration of each other.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:14 AM
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7. I was just kidding. n/t
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:39 AM
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15. Sorry. Haven't had my coffee yet.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:02 AM
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3. No, they just want to see Beck and Limbaugh explode
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:14 AM
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8. Me, too. n/t
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rmp yellow Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:04 AM
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4. We have some strange theories today here n/t
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:15 AM
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9. Just a joke, really. By the way, the nomination was back in February!
He had barely taken office. The Rethugs will have a field day with this.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:37 AM
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14. Who gives a flying fuck what the repubs say about this?
or anything for that matter
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:07 AM
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5. Oh please--don't try and diminish this award. He DOES deserve it
and it has nothing to do with the Olympics.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:16 AM
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10. He was nominated back in February. What had he done to deserve the nomination
other than winning the election?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:41 AM
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17. Oh, I don't know, try for nuclear disarmament?
:eyes:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:39 PM
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24. He did that before they nominated him? n/t
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:43 AM
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38. US presidents are always nominated. The voting took place earlier this month. nt
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:43 AM
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37. He's the first person of color to lead an industrialized Western nation.
And that nation is recognized internationally as having been plagued with racism for over a century.
Remember the Civil Rights era with the little black kids being jeered at as they are escorted to school by President Eisenhower through the National Guard?
Yeah, the rest of the world has that little movie stored in their heads, too.
Our legacy of racism is a huge part of who we are in the eyes of the world.
Children in the Soviet Union would watch footage of race riots in school.
I taught some of these people when I lived in Russia.
My Russian students as young as 17 and 18 knew who Martin Luther King was.

The election of the first black President of the United States is huge to the rest of the world and I can understand the Nobel Committee wanting to acknowledge it.


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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:48 AM
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39. Sour grapes eh?

In many instances it's awarded to people who are working towards a goal rather than to those who have achieved one. Gorbachev took office on March 15th and was given the award on October 15th.

Desmond Tutu was given the award in 1984 shortly after he began his work to end apartheid and apartheid didnt end until 1994.

Arafat, Perez, and Rabin were awarded their prize for working towards peace in the Middle East even though it ultimately was not achieved.

Gore was given it for his work towards ending global warming yet an article showed yesterday that we have the highest CO2 levels in millions of years.

Sometimes the award is given solely on the idea and working towards changing the public opinion on a matter, Obama has already done extensive work in the past 2 years towards the idea that this is one world and we are one country and we need to work together, collectively with other countries rather than have the F you, we're America and we can have/do whatever we want. The truth is most moaning about him winning the prize have zero concept of how the prize is in fact awarded and it's much easier to moan, whine, and pout about it rather than do some research on the history of the Prize and it's recipients.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:10 AM
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6. That's the corporate whores' take on it too!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:17 AM
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11. Really? I wasn't serious. But I do think it strange that he got nominated
last February (that's the firm deadline for nominations) when he had just barely stepped into office. Couldn't they have waited another year or two?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:19 AM
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13. Maybe it was the 250,000 who gathered in Berlin......
Perhaps they were listening.....and since, they have seen a lot more
than they had ever dreamed. Certainly it is a work in progress,
but it is going in the right direction, and actually faster
than most give him credit for.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:09 PM
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31. Maybe it was the fact that it wasn't just the million in Grant Park
who were cheering and sobbing with joy the night he was elected.

The world wanted to claim Obama as its own too.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:40 AM
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16. You're being sarcastic right? You read this at Freeperville, right? n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:00 AM
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18. I'm not seeing the Committee with having all that many relatives in Chicago.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:40 PM
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25. Did you see the little smilie in my post?
I wasn't being serious.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:04 PM
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30.  I know, pnwmom. I was just joshin' and truth is I didn't do it on my
end as well as you did it on yours.

I'm sorry.

All good wishes.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:13 PM
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33. Thank you saltpoint. I'm glad
you weren't among those who'd thought I'd lost my mind or had been a freeper all along.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:19 PM
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34. No, I'm tangential as hell but I've followed your DU posts with respect
and enjoyment.

Most recently I loved your remarks in the thread on Autism diagnoses among children who were struggling in school and at home.

:thumbsup:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:02 PM
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35. Thanks, saltpoint. If you're interested in the general topic
of autism, have you run across the interview with Dr. Herbert of Harvard that I've posted here before? You might be interested in this:

http://www.alternative-therapies.com/at/web_pdfs/herbert_long.pdf

SNIP

In my own imaging-based anatomy research I was looking at
MRI scans from autistic children aged 5 or 6 to 11 years, and they
had big heads. When I analyzed the data further I found that it was
white matter that was big—and on yet further analysis I found that
the enlargement didn’t involve all the white matter, but it specifi -
cally affected the white matter right under the cortex that develops
its white myelin coating the latest, well after birth, and not the
deep white matter that myelinates earlier. There were more consis-
tencies with other fi ndings: the areas of the white matter that were
bigger were the areas that were myelinating during the time that
retrospective studies were identifying the brain growth spurt—and
also during the time when “autistic regression”—the loss of skills
like language and social interactivity and the onset of autistic
behaviors like rituals and hand-fl apping—tends to occur.

More recently my group’s fi nding regarding the distribution of white
matter enlargement has been pursued by my colleague Carlos
Pardo, a neurologist and neuropathologist at Johns Hopkins, who
had already demonstrated activated microglia and activated astro-
glia in brain tissue from autistic individuals—these are signs of
innate immune activation. After reading my paper localizing white
matter enlargement, he went back and stained tissue in the same
distribution as the areas I’d measured, and he detected cellular
changes consistent with immune activation in the same parts of
white matter where I had detected volumetric enlargement. This
suggests that this white matter enlargement may be related to
immune activation, which may be driving brain enlargement and
impairing brain function.

Dr Pardo’s fi ndings of brain immune activation completely
change the playing fi eld of what is relevant to how autism works. In
other words, if that’s going on, then you have an ongoing chronic-
disease process. There may or may not be early wiring changes, but
you have an ongoing chronic-disease process. And that’s a totally
different ball game from what we’ve been thinking about autism—
it adds a whole extra axis to the dimensions in which we need to
characterize the condition.

To flesh out the implications of these chronic changes in
autism, I wrote a paper called “Autism: A Brain Disorder or a
Disorder That Affects the Brain?” More recently I coauthored an
article with my neurobiologist and neuropathologist colleague,
Matt Anderson, about this called, “An Expanding Spectrum of
Autism Models: From Fixed Developmental Defects to Reversible
Functional Impairments,” that will come out next spring in a vol-
ume edited by Andrew Zimmerman, a close colleague of Carlos
Pardo’s and an important pioneer in immune system research in
autism. It’s premature to say that the earlier model of fi xed wiring
defi cits is wrong. But it is not premature to say that there are things
going on later that could actively infl uence the level and type of
functioning of the brain—all kinds of cellular changes that would
affect the synapses and the blood fl ow and other things that can
manifest as problem behaviors, either in addition to or even
instead of early wiring diagram alterations.

SNIP
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:04 PM
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36. I had not seen it before just recently. 'Will do some Googlin' here and
there to follow the trail.

Thank you for that link.

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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:21 AM
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19. I want the Nobel committee to send me the next
lottery numbers! If they perdicted in February that the Olympic committee would chose Rio they are good!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:42 PM
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26. LOL. n't
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:22 AM
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20. "They" will use this as excuse to compare him to Jimmy Carter, who also won Nobel Peace Prize,
and is thought of historically now as a weak President.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:58 PM
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29. Good point
And they have kept that theme up and repeated it until it is true.

We need to counter with Wilson and Roosevelt who more similarly got the NPP while in office.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:47 AM
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22. One thing is for sure, the Scandanavians really whip our butts in skiing.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:44 PM
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28. Finally, an answer in the spirit of my post. n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:26 AM
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23. Teh Stupid: Strong and Flatulent on DU Today.
FR is our mirror, only they have more solidarity.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:43 PM
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27. No.
They thought Obama deserved it. I respect their decision.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:09 PM
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32. Because the IOC and the Nobel Committee are THE VERY SAME PEOPLE
It's a fact. The world is ruled by only 14 people.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:49 AM
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40. Hey, Castro agrees!

Fidel Castro lauds Nobel prize for Obama



HAVANA (Reuters) - Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro lauded the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to U.S. President Barack Obama, saying on Saturday it was "a positive measure" that was more a criticism of past U.S. policies than a recognition of Obama's accomplishments.

Castro said the prize made up for the blow Obama suffered last week when the International Olympic Committee awarded the 2016 Summer Games to Rio de Janeiro after Obama had flown to Copenhagen to pitch for Chicago, his adoptive hometown.

The Nobel Committee announced on Friday that Obama had won the peace price for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

The decision prompted surprise in many quarters and anger from Obama's conservative foes in the United States.

<more>


http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5991C120091010
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:49 AM
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41. Yeaaaah No.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:57 AM
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42. They were trying to force his hand in Afghanistan
Now it's going to be next to impossible for him to pull off a "surge" in Afghanistan by sending an extra X thousand troops there.

It will be entirely possible for him to say "We've had enough in Afghanistan" and pull the troops out.

It's the perfect out.

I applaud them for their manipulation in this regard.
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