We don't need this kind of crap

[EthanAllenVt]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

[jezebel]

1. The brat probably tore it up herself. ; ) NT

nt

[Demonaut]

84. wtf, its a friggen kid

are we being invaded again?

[yardwork]

110. Before anyone reads further - know that this is a fake

The photo has been shown to be a staged event. The father has done this numerous times before. The "attacker" in the union shirt is apparently the son of the father and older brother to the little girl. He's not in a painters union - he's an intelligence specialist in the National Guard. See other threads on this issue.

Don't be taken in.

[newsguyatl]

2. you mean parents raising freeper children?

you're right, we don't.

it's sad.

i feel more sorry for the little girl who's being brought up as a freeper than i do her sign was torn up.

her father should've known better than to take her in the midst of a kerry-edwards campaign stop.

if he wants to interrupt a stop like that, leave the little girl at home.

[codegreen]

3. definitely the wrong thing to do.

[geek tragedy]

4. What kind of asshole takes his kid in there?

And I would say the same thing about a Dem taking their kid into a pack of Freeptoids.

[Kahuna]

5. No we don't. And don't forget to rate it down.

:(

[salvorhardin]

6. Awww....

de widdle repuke had her liddle sign torn all up. :-( :nopity:

Seriously, I'm that jaded. Yeah, that was a pretty reprehensible act.

[Protected]

7. It was the wrong thing to do

but I'm a bit baffled as to why this Bush/Cheney supporting father would drag his daughter to an airport where Edwards is.

[AngryOldDem]

25. On the off chance her sign would get trashed

Then her sad, little tear-stained face and Daddy's shocked and upset expression would be caught by a photographer for the next day's paper -- as well as for posterity -- as living proof as to what heartless bastards these Kerry supporters are. That's why they get there really early to get front and center.

The kid probably has no idea who George Bush or John Kerry are. She's just there so Dad can make a point, whatever it is.

Having seen kids at rallies like this, I consider it to be a mild form of child abuse. Using anyone -- especially kids -- in this way is not "cute."

While I don't condone the ripped sign, what did the man expect by showing up at the opposition's event? And how else was he and the kid antagonizing those around them?

[Career Prole]

109. Hiding behind women and children like all "courageous" freepers. n/t

[Democat]

8. Who is we?

What do you think of Bill Clinton?

[EthanAllenVt]

12. We is me, my kids and whomever feels like I do

I think President Clinton did all he could with what he had to work with and he got a bum rap from too many people that hated him. What's your take on him?

[blondeatlast]

30. So what's your take on OUR candidate? nt

[EthanAllenVt]

31. He's all we have and we need to back him up

I was for Dean but now is not the time to argue that detail. We either support Kerry or die.

[Mr Blond]

9. Yes, there are jerks on both sides of the isle.

[newsguyatl]

11. both sides of the aisle, too

:hi:

[TexasUnderground]

67. LOL.

[blondeatlast]

10. Friendly tip for ultra-low count posters in GD and GD2004:

Let's be POSITIVE, kiddies, or risk the consequences.

Welcome EAV, DUers, but you better do it FAST!

[EthanAllenVt]

14. I am positive

But I'm positively going to call BS on those that are out of line.

[newsguyatl]

18. you're right

he was absolutely out of line to use his little girl as a shield in enemy water for his own political agenda.

outrageous!


but what do you expect from a freeper?

[blondeatlast]

33. Shame on daddy for exploiting his daughter!

I have no problems with him taking her to a B/S rally to support his guys, but to crash one of Kerry/Edwards and hide behind his little girl is despicable.

Shame, daddy, shame on you.

[jonnyblitz]

36. why would a newbie choose THIS for one of their first posts?

interesting...(((snicker)))

[LittleClarkie]

43. Paranoid darling

It's bad publicity. We don't need it.

And you can blame the press as much as daddio there for it too.

The people who had their tickets ripped up at a Bush rally didn't get nearly the press, did they?

[Cha]

13. I call Bullshit!

Prove it!

[EthanAllenVt]

17. Prove what exactly?

Unless someone hacked yahoo it's documented right here...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

[Cronus Protagonist]

22. The type style isn't correct. It couldn't have been a Bush Cheney poster

So it must have been a Kerry poster and the Bush Cheney people tore it up.

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[blondeatlast]

27. There's another "Kerry/Edwards" looking sign behind the dad

and girl, upside down.

I smell a plant or a fraud. Shame on Daddy--and I have a little one of my own, I would NEVER put him in such a situation.

[Cha]

37. I mean that yahoo has to prove the story

to me. I'm not going on some repuke's word that ..that's what happened! Too many dirty, nasty, tricks coming down the pike by the rove operation!!

[deutsey]

103. Check out threads here on Phil Parlock

Apparently has been pulling stunts like this since 1996.

[cheshire]

15. Her dad hit her to get her to cry I'll bet. Big deal a kid crying.

[yardwork]

16. Interesting

The women in the backround, wearing Kerry shirts, look horrified.

The man laughing and holding the remnants of the sign appears to be wearing a union shirt. There have been some other incidents in which union-shirt wearing men have been photographed bothering Bush supporters, while Kerry supporters look on in surprise and shock.

So interesting that the assailants are always wearing shirts with large union identifications, and photographers are always right there to capture the moment.

I'm not SAYING that freepers dressed up in union shirts might be deliberately attacking other people holding Bush signs while photographers happen to be pointing their cameras, but some people say....

[AngryOldDem]

35. There is some truth to this, but...

I was at an anti-Cheney rally that had a large contingent of union members. They were definitely not freepers, but they did do some things that were a little over the top -- but nothing malicious.

An elderly Bush supporter kept coming over to the crowd and taunting us. We tried to engage him in some dialogue, and then ignore him, but he kept up to the point of getting right in the faces of some of these union guys who have been out of work for months. Something was said, and the old man lunged toward one of the pipefitters. Naturally, the pipefitter pushed back -- guess which image made the evening news?

Later I found out that this old man had to be physically removed from Kerry HQ premises for harrassing the staff. But what image do you think remains with the public? Right -- the big, bad union dude picking on the senior citizen.

[dogman]

19. Hiding behind a little girl, just like Dubya hiding behind Laura.

I don't crash their events and don't appreciate them crashing ours. Rate a one.

[sonicx]

20. what are 'we' to do about it?

protest kerry's rallies?

[Name removed]

21. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[newsguyatl]

24. you're new here and already know what a freeper is?

errr, welcome.

i like the clinton avatar and sigline.


you must REALLY hate bush.

[blondeatlast]

28. They seem to be crawling out of the woodwork... nt

[LittleClarkie]

41. Hell, I knew what they were too

Just took me a minute to figure out freeper, and a poster at Free Republic, were the same thing.

Anyone who went to check out Jerome Corsi after the "Unfit for Command" book came out and the quotes from Corsi surfaced knows about Free Republic.

Sadly, sometimes I'm looking at their mirror image here. Rather like when I hung with the atheists as their token theist, and watch them be as extreme as their born-again counterparts.

Dang, people. Be reasonable. Even I squeezed out a few tears for Nancy when Ron died, mostly because it reminded me of my dad. John Kerry himself stopped campaigning for a week and went to pay his respects.

And one of the most staunch Repubs I know said that politics shouldn't stand in the way of human feeling. He'd feel bad if Clinton died, even if he doesn't personally support the guy. We still have a shared humanity. Let's not lose it. Don't destroy your village to save it.

Not all Bushies are Freepers. They're not that informed, alot of them. They still think Bush is a traditional Repub who likes small government, and that you support a prez in wartime, no matter how fubar it is.

That said, one thing I found odd in the story was how they said Kerry supporters (plural) ripped up the sign. How many people does it take to rip up a sign. And once again, we don't know the full story. How belligerant was the guy before the incident. Was the girl crying because of the sign, or because a bunch of people were yelling all around her.

I agree, dad shouldn't have brought the kid, and probably did it because it made a more poignant portrait, politically speaking.

[AmerDem]

85. WOW, new member you seem to have a pattern

to your posts! I love the way you try to show all of us here the kinder more gentler side of these fascist fucks!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=825682&mesg_id=826450&page=

[LittleClarkie]

98. What's with the hateration, dude?

I mean, daaamn.

Hey, my first political crush was on John Anderson, liberal Republican turned Independant. There's good in them thar hills, I tells ya.

[girl gone mad]

23. It looks like child abuse..

on the part of the father.

He is using his daughter for a photo op, and was probably trying to stir things up. Using his daughter to hold the sign for him because he was too much of a coward to do it himself.

[LittleClarkie]

99. I wouldn't doubt

the "union guy is a Bush plant" idea. That's not above the realm of possibility.

But yeah, that's just a little kid who doesn't know Dem from Repub.

[dogman]

26. Here's a sadder story.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x825102

[blondeatlast]

29. Yeah, I thought of that story when I saw this too. nt

[JI7]

32. it's not as if his kid was just killed in war and he was arrested after

as happened to one poor woman

[newsguyatl]

34. this picture will be on drudge

in 3............2..................




DEVELOPING....

[newsguyatl]

73. ......................1

already up.

[Generator]

38. Oh that's terrible!

I hope she doesn't ever have to cry tears because her Daddy died looking for WMD that never existed. I think that might be worse.

[matcom]

39. stupid motherfucker shouldn't have brought his kid

with a Bush sign to an EDWARDS appearance

serves HIM right

HIS problem he used his kid as a statement.

dumbass

[newsguyatl]

40. looks like he's done it before

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/2004/July/05/LNspot.htm

http://bellinghamherald.gannettonline.com/gns/iraq/20030719-26621.shtml

and made friends with karl rove along the way. :eyes:

[matcom]

42. even better

its HIS fault he got his daughter involved. lucky for her she didn't see ME punch Daddy in the f*cking head

[EthanAllenVt]

47. Is this what it has come to?

Punching each other in the head for peaceful protests? If I hold a Kerry sign (which I have done in Burlington) during a repub rally should I expect a punch in the head? I think your approach will turn off peaceful people.

[matcom]

54. yup. and you should punch back

'nuff said

*i suggest you punch hard too*

[Demonaut]

87. matcom , are you suggesting violence?

bty they luv you at conservative underground:P

[AuntPatsy]

56. I dont believe it at all, I would not be surprised in the least

that it was a setup, what would surprise me if that it was revealed to be so, I put nothing past the repubs at this time, the sickening way they have of attempting to win an election is documented, please don't act like we did this, I for one don't believe it...

[skygazer]

65. Would you be holding a three year old?

Perhaps people "shouldn't" act like that but there's a reasonable expectation that they might. Why in the world would you bring your three year old to an opposition gathering?

By all means, carry a Kerry sign to a Repub rally (I'm from Brattleboro, by the way. How ya doin?). Please! But don't take a kid.

[dogman]

45. He seems to have a publicity magnet in his pocket.

Makes it seem pretty obvious.

[frylock]

60. nice leg work newsguy!!

I'm sure it wasn't staged.. nope.

[MissB]

61. How nice (nt)

[qanda]

63. 10 Children

Good Lord, that's a lot of kids. He also was running for the School Board and is involved in the NAACP.

Phil Parlock

Age: 47

District: 3

Family: married; 10 children -- two at Marshall University, seven in Cabell County Schools and a 3-year-old at home.

Resides: (Removed)

Education: Attended high school in Pennsylvania; received a bachelor’s degree in science from Penn State in 1979.

Political experience: Fourth attempt at Board of Education.

Professional background: real estate salesman; worked in real estate appraisal, state and federal government.

Community service: Volunteer for Boy Scouts, NAACP, Junior Achievement, Huntington City Mission

[Kathy in Cambridge]

72. NAACP?

:shrug:

[MissB]

79. Go figure that one

I'm still stereotyping, so it isn't computing too well.

[Demonaut]

89. NAMBLA........maybe????

[yardwork]

94. Politics. He wants to be elected to the school board

so he's involving himself in community groups with large numbers of constituents. He hopes to get the African American vote.

I imagine he wants to be elected to the school board so that he can cleanse the curriculum of all references to biology, geology, physics, world history, current events, sex education (gasp), and - Satan's own handiwork - EVOLUSHUN!

[Demonaut]

88. and bush operative....................

[Sydnie]

96. Four tries to make School Board?

Obviously, he doesn't have a clue and can't read the writting on the ballot ... four times! His last attempt in 2004 shows him getting his ass whooped but good! Huntington is an education town. There is not much there but Marshall University. He is in real estate and I would bet, fairly frustrated as the last time I was there there were lots of properties for sale, but few buyers. Perhaps the market is better now, but I doubt it.

His last election returns are listed here.
http://www.wchstv.com/newsroom/vote04/cabell16.shtml

(the true irony is - when I loaded that page, the ad served at the top was for this -- http://ww11.e-tractions.com/truemajority/servlet/Gamelet;jsessionid=BA96827EB8FBC4EA5581A07146691EF3?req=BjEzO6PaM3E3tzM6bjEFtXM6B3Ef%2BWC3Q%2FmabjF9b9Z1ozMzGjEft2MzMjEFt3taB3Ef%2Ba5ZpiFkv4x%3D ) ROFLMAO!!!!

[Kathy in Cambridge]

71. 10 KIDS? Jesus Christ give that man a vasectomy

[yardwork]

93. Now I'm certain is was staged for the cameras

Thank you for finding these. How do you guys do this?

[Merrick]

44. -

[blondeatlast]

48. Not funny, clever, or even mildly amusing.

Sorry, indeed.

[Merrick]

55. yeah, you're probably right. consider it gone.

[blondeatlast]

58. Thanks, we're nothing if not reasonable.

I've got a 7yo, so things like that get my spine up fast.

[oasis]

46. Rethugs are hiding behind women and kids. Laura defends Chimpy's guard

service and this kid holds a sign for her freeper dad.

[mbali]

49. Shouldn't AP be required to reveal their source for this story?

I want to be able to assess for myself whether this story is authentic.

Maybe we can get Rep. Blount to widen his investigation to include this brewing controversy.

[blondeatlast]

52. Exactly--I want to know how it all came down at JUST the right moment. nt

[blondeatlast]

50. How many Iraqi children die every day? How many of our sons

and daughters?

Again I say, shame, daddy, shame.

[Carolinian]

51. I don't think a child that age has any concer for Bush/Cheney.

[Catherine Vincent]

53. Typical republican vermin...

using his kid. What if some scuffle happened in their midst and the little girl would have gotten hurt? Stupid father.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

57. Children are nothing but a chance for a photo-op for these people.

The sick bastard would have probably loved it if she had been kicked in the head. Republicans: picking on the elderly and hiding behind children.

[West Coast Democrat]

59. We don't need this kind of flamebait

And why did they need to bring a Bush-Cheney sign to greet Sen. Edwards anyway?

[gardenista]

62. What they should have done was give her a bright, shiny Kerry/Edwards sign

without her freeper/exploiting/asshat dad knowing about it.

Big smile, "Here, would you like another pretty sign?"

This was obviously a setup, and because there are assholes on both sides, one of them obliged and gave Rove a little bon bon.

[skygazer]

64. Big tough Repuke

Lets the little kid hold the sign. Man, they're more chickenshit than I thought!

[michigandem2]

66. that makes me sad.--rip up her dads sign

[PROGRESSIVE1]

68. A FReeper did this just to make us look bad!

[deutsey]

102. Check out the threads on Phil Parlock

Seems he has a looooong history of staging stunts like this.

My question is: Why are "non-professionals" like us able to find this stuff out and not the fucking "professional journalists"?

[LTR]

69. How's this for spin

From the Miami Disco Machine himself:

http://www.drudgereport.com/

GIRL CRIES AFTER BUSH/CHENEY SIGN RIPPED BY THUGS...

and...

Kerry supporter arrested in campaign-fueled air rage case...

Woman wearing 'President Bush You Killed My Son' T-Shirt disrupts First Lady's rally...

Ahhh...I can smell the bullshit.

[CornField]

70. Not that it really matters much I guess

I'm fairly new here & I'm pretty sure my opinion doesn't count for much here yet. Come to think of it, maybe that's the reason I'm willing to say this: Y'all are acting like fucking assholes!

I took my 4-year-old daughter to her first political rally this summer -- Kerry in Sioux City, Iowa. I'll never forget how excited she was when, as she sat on my husband's shoulders, someone handed her a sign. She still has it thumbtacked to the wall in her bedroom. Since then our family has attended rallies and protests as well.

Children don't understand Rove or Bush or Kerry or politics. The only thing that little girl knows is that someone pulled something she liked from her hands and ruined it. How dare they! How dare any of you even remotely try to defend this.

Tonight you've acted no better than the scum bag FReepers -- hope you're happy.

[Catherine Vincent]

75. "Y'all are acting like fucking assholes! "

Right back atcha!

[dogman]

76. Read all the posts and figure out what went on.

Her father was the only asshole. This was an obvious setup. It's hard to say what else this asshole might have done to trigger this. You didn't take your daughter into the other camp looking for a photo-op and trouble, there is a big difference.

[qanda]

78. I've been taking my children to rallies over the past two years...

However, I would *never* take them to a Bush rally and put them in harm's way for my own satisfaction. That is selfish and irresponsible. I do not condone what the person who tore up the sign did, but I think the father should explain why it was necessary to put his 3 year old daughter in that situation in the first place.

[Demonaut]

91. you took her to a bush rally?............you've seen what happens to

dissenters, getting kicked in the head and having her hair pulled is not my idea of a family outing

[yardwork]

95. I don't condone picking on children, but I'm not sure what really happened

right before this photo was snapped. First, it was poor judgment for a father to bring a tiny child to a Kerry rally and give her a Bush sign to hold. He knew it might attract trouble. He put her in harm's way.

Second, I've started to notice how many of these incidents involve people who don't seem to be real Kerry supporters. I suspect they may be plants, there to cause trouble and make Kerry supporters look bad.

Third, this man is no newcomer to politics. He's followed Bush all over the country this year, taking his ten children with him. He's run for his local school board four times. He's not naive. He knew what he was doing.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

74. Poor little girl-that wasn't very smart of her father to bring her there

why would someone bring their kid to a rally for a candidate that he didn't support, unless he was looking for trouble?

[seabeyond]

77. we are a better people than this. why would a dad do this

i dont know.

why would a mom put a kerry sticker on her car. and send her children to a school of fundamentalist that say all public kids are ungodly and are going ot hell. and have sons in a boyscouts where they are ostracized and feeling left out. where a father walks into parking lot of school and sees the kerry sticker, takes a second and third look and shuffles kid away in anger as if the devil himself was standing in front of him

who cares why that man took the little girl to the airport. how dare that person take the cheney sign and rip it up. how dare he stand there with tht ugly smile

[CornField]

81. Thank you -- exactly my feelings & you didn't even use "asshole"

BTW, sorry about calling everyone assholes... it's just that if we are going to be the folks who stand up for freedom of speech, we also need to be the folks who tolerate the speech we don't particularly like.

What the guy did to the little girl was wrong -- he should have been the bigger man and walked away from the situation.

[LittleClarkie]

83. Thank you seabeyond

Sorry about the preachy rant. You said it better than I could.

We're better than this!

I understand the anger. But I just don't want the hate to carry us all away.

[AmerDem]

80. pure stunt

they should string the father up by his balls for dragging his child into something like this!

[Catherine Vincent]

82. Did anyone actually see someone grab the sign from the girl

and rip it up? Remember, we're only reading what the reporter is telling us. We don't know the real story.

[Lefta Dissenter]

86. just another

girlie-man for bush :eyes:

Ya know, when I took my kids to rallies, I actually took them to rallies where I knew they would hear good things about the candidates I wanted them to learn more about - to see people excited about the political process and excited about having an impact.

Do we even know if that's the real dad? Have there been DNA tests done? Where is the birth certificate? Because any REAL DAD that I know would never deliberately endanger his own child in that way - taking her to a place where crowds can become overly zealous, and accidents can happen. Deliberately stirring up a hornet's nest, and hiding under the skirt of a child. MAN, these people suck.

[Scorpious_Maximus]

90. Bullshit!

This clown probably walked into a crowd of Kerry supporters with his asshole b/c sign and figured he would be "safe" because his kid was there.

Nice. Hide behind a kid.

The guy deserves a beating - COWARD!! Just like his fly boy drag queen prezzie.

Period.

[WI_DEM]

92. What about Pickles having that woman who lost her son arrested?

She could have shown a bit of sympathy? huh?

[mopinko]

97. she is still in jail

she was scheduled to be at a rally today in chicago, and they said she was still locked up.

[blondeatlast]

100. How it all came down at JUST the right moment: a set-up, as

clear as day. I'll summarize: Daddy's done this before, the "Union" guy is Parlock (daddy's) son, the girl is "Union" guys brother, the photographer and reporter have been at nearly every other one of the incidences.

Karl Rove, you really have lost your touch--way too easy.

Damn, DUers, you're good! Read through the posts though it's time consuming, LOADS of information in even the smallest posts.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x828458

[yardwork]

105. Where is EthanAllenVt this morning?

He/she showed up on DU and started posting this story all over the place, and attacking every Democrat in the world for being child-abusing bullies.

[girl gone mad]

106. I don't think we need to ask. n/t

[blondeatlast]

108. He is still among the "living," for now (6:30 AZ time).

But the early AM Mods will be getting to work soon...

[blondeatlast]

107. He's still "alive." I'm very interested in seeing his reaction.

I smelled a rat from the OP.

Bet he steers clear of the subject.

[doni_georgia]

101. If that kid had been holding a Kerry sign at a Bush event she would have

been arrested! It was wrong of someone to tear up her sign, but it was way wrong for that dad to use his 3 year old that way too.

[yardwork]

104. The whole thing was faked. Check the other threads on DU this morning