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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:51 AM
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Does Clark think Reagan good for America?
What does Clark have to say about Reagan generally? Are there any quotes from the last ten years about Reagan? What does he think about the 80's proxy wars? I don't have a problem voting for Clark because he voted for Reagan, as long as he knows Reagan was a disaster for this country, particularly militarily. Which I do have to remember he was a big part of at the time. Have we got any info in this regard?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:52 AM
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1. I don't
But I am sure that a Deanie will oblige in your research.
Nite!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:59 AM
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2. I really wanted YOURS
Not just random out of context quotes!
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:32 AM
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3. Of course he does.
There's not an inch of difference between Clark and Reagan. Neither is qualified to be the president of the united states, both are conservatives and both apparently, are competent actors.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:51 AM
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6. There's no evidence there
Does he think Reagan was a good President and if so how. Specifically. Have you got any real evidence or not?
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Clark Campaigner Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:47 AM
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4. Reagan was a very popular President
FACT: No other president in history has recieved more votes than Reagan did in 1984.

Going after Clark by attacking Reagan isn't going to get any traction.
It's a non-starter.
In fact, it only looks petty.


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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:50 AM
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5. Your 'fact' is wrong.
Albert Gore, Jr., received more votes for POTUS than a-n-y candidate in history.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:56 AM
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9. Padraig...
you're mistaken.

Look it up before you make such a bold claim.
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Clark Campaigner Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 06:12 AM
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12. wrong!
Gore recieved more votes than any DEMOCRAT in history.

Reagan still has him beat.


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:54 AM
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7. We're electing a President
Edited on Fri Jan-09-04 05:55 AM by sandnsea
I want to know what Clark really thinks of the Reagan Presidency, specifically. I don't care if he voted for him, I want to know what he said about his policies since then. And not just since he decided to run either. Since we know so little about Clark, it's legitimate to try and figure out who he is by what policies he's agreed with in the past.

And I've been a strong defender of Clark on this board. Asking questions doesn't mean somebody is attacking. In fact, if Clark has said Reagan was a rotten President, my questions could help. The questions are going to have to be answered sooner or later, Clark supporters need to get their facts together.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:55 AM
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8. yes...
Edited on Fri Jan-09-04 05:57 AM by Dookus
abalone snackbar cheese- fries can't.

Furthermore, Hubert Humphrey lapdance snackadoodle pee.

Makes just about as much sense.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:58 AM
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10. Don't care what he thinks?
Now this is sounding like certain other supporters. Every vote and utterance of Kerry for the last 30 years has been micro-analyzed on this board and in the press. And I can't expect an answer to one simple question??? What did Clark think of Reagan's Presidency?

We should just elect somebody because he's handsome or the word "General"??
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 06:01 AM
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11. Looks like the Kerry supporters are now targeting Wes Clark
Why? Are they worried that Clark will end up in second place in New Hampshire, while their hero Kerry continues to fade into a well-deserved sunset?

I will remind the readers that Wes Clark did not support Bush's reckless and criminal invasion of Iraq, unlike the pro-IWR fools that are now running for the Democratic nomination.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 06:20 AM
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14. Don't question anybody???
The only pure anti-war candidate is Dennis Kucinich. Every other candidate has made varying statements at varying points supporting holding Iraq accountable to comply with UN resolutions and disarm. Throwing out the IWR Card as the only thing against Kerry has become a sick obsession with some people.

Do you want a Democratic candidate who thinks Reagan was a good President? It's just a question. One anybody ought to be asking, including Dean supporters.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 06:17 AM
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13. I'm sorry your question is not
being treated with the seriousness that it deserves. I don't pretend to know all the details about Clark's position on Reagan.

According to my best understanding of the issue, Clark probably did not buy into the overall ideology of Reaganism. Since at that time the military was his life, he has said that he voted for people that he believed to be strong on defence and the military. This would simply indicate that his voting was based on somewhat provincial concerns, ie what was in the best interest of the military.

I feel very confident that whatever he may have felt about Reagan in the past, he has reevaluated, even though he may still feel that Reagan had an important role in ending the cold war. I believe that his views on domestic policy are diametrically opposed to Reaganism.

He has said that his perspective began to change and enlarge after the threat of the cold war ended, and he became more aware of larger social issues. That's the best I can come up with right now. Maybe someone who knows more can fill in more details.

I hope this is some help and I'm sorry people are treating your valid concerns as an attack, since I know you have often come to the defence of Clark.:)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 06:24 AM
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15. Thank you
This is an opportunity to dispel anti-Clark "he voted for Reagan" attacks which I think are pointless and immature. It isn't important whether he voted for Reagan or not. What's more important is his opinion over the years on what was right and wrong about that Administration. For me, particularly, the proxy wars because I think they were a terrible mistake. I'd like to know, that's all.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 06:39 AM
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16. Clark's rise in the polls. Clark's rise at DU!
Clark eases to second place in New Hampshire...

but.... Clark voted for Reagan....

Clark gains nationally...

but... Clark .... spoke at a Republican fundraiser!

Clark continues to lead in DU polls. Anti-Clark polls continue to disappoint he/she who created the polls....

But here's a picture of Clark in Ratko Mladic's hat!

Dean had secret energy meetings like Cheney did...

But ... but... Clark's a WAR CRIMINAL! Milosevic says so!

Dean and supporters get busted for dirty campaign tricks...

But... But... Clark ... (sniff) Clark voted for Reagan!

You've already said that!

So? I'm saying it again!

Dean's handlers reign in his "shoot from the hip" style in so they don't have to keep surgically removing his foot from his mouth...

But.. hey... did you see this picture of Clark wearing Ratko Mladic's hat?

Yeah, the first 50 times you posted it...

Dean wanted to make Vermont a corporate htax haven for corporations

...but... did I already say Clark voted for Reagan? uhhh... I don't care that Dean said Cheney is a model VP. I don't care that I side with Milosevik against Bill Clinton and Wesely Clark and the Hague. I don't care if Dean thinks Bush is doing a fine job on terrorism. I don't care Dean had secret energy meetings like Cheney and sealed his records like Bush. I don't care that he is A+ rated by the NRA and had a lousy environmental record in Vermont! All these polls are WRONG! You can't trust them! Clark isn't really popular! The media is pushing Clark. The media hates Dean! DU has been inflitrated by Clark supporters and their 1000+ post count is a ruse! It's ROVE I tell ya! ROVE! I'm going to show everyone OVER AND OVER what kind of man Clark REALLY is... blah blah blah...



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 07:10 AM
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17. What does Clark THINK??
That's the question. I don't give a shit if he voted for LaRouche. I want to know what the man thinks about the Reagan Presidency and specifically the 80's proxy wars. These are legitimate questions and you can't hide behind attack whining to avoid answering them.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 07:18 AM
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18. GREAT post.
DU 2004 primary GD..... in a nutshell!
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