cthrumatrix
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Thu Sep-16-04 01:38 PM
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Memo gate question - IF Burkett had the originals and recreated them.. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 01:38 PM by cthrumatrix
how did Rove know they were fakes and had the "Buckhead Bob suad" ready to debunk fonts within 10 minutes?
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Thu Sep-16-04 01:43 PM
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1. I believe the originals were destroyed at Administration's orders. |
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That is how Rove knew they were "fakes". Burkett may have "reconstructed" them from memory.
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Thu Sep-16-04 01:45 PM
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2. Got a copy of that "order"? |
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YOu see, unless there was an order to destroy those docs, then there's a problem.
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Thu Sep-16-04 02:00 PM
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7. I've never done a link. Hope it works. It is not a copy of the "order" |
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Thu Sep-16-04 01:47 PM
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4. and Rove had advanced knowledge of the CBS "story" and prepared |
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the "hit team" and font angle w/ Buckhead Bob?
If that is the case...then Burkett gave Rove a "golden apple" to spin vs CBS, Dan rather...and more
I don't think Burkett would do that...he would have to know Rove had copies originals (and kept them this whole time-- shocking).
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Thu Sep-16-04 01:45 PM
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3. Rove didn't need to believe they were fakes |
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Rove found whatever he could to raise questions.
The questions raised about the memos are mostly b.s. They were dubunked here on DU. It's clear that a typewriter of that era could have typed those memos.
Nobody has proven them to be forgeries. Nobody has proven that they couldn't have been typed.
All Rove has done is succeeded in raising questions and by getting the rest of the media to repeat that they are forgeries over and over again - he's succeeded in getting most people to believe that they are forgeries.
But there's no proof of that at all. Just because Rove says it doesn't make it true.
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Thu Sep-16-04 01:51 PM
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5. ok - but using that logic , Rove is on defense...not offense and this is |
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a "offensive plan".
Rove would be playing with SERIOUS fire and could blow the whole campaign - if those were real.
It seems like it was a scripted offensive ploy by Rove and comp....not a "defensive" plan.
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Thu Sep-16-04 01:55 PM
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6. I think that the memos are real |
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I know I am in a minority on this. I honestly believe that the memos area real, or else are recently retyped versions of real existing memos.
I think that BushCo has been worried about something like this happening, and they had contingency plans in place. There's nothing new in their "kill the messenger" strategy. Rove's defense is always an attack.
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Thu Sep-16-04 02:03 PM
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9. Really - thinking the memos are genuine is the minority position? Well, |
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count me in the minority then.
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Thu Sep-16-04 02:51 PM
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10. I agree - typed in 72 or between 79 and his death in 84 if the Secr memory |
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is correct.
There is no reason to think they are not real - except LATimes, and Fox and ABC are selling that line.
Even GOP whore NBC is not going too far beyond "there are questions".
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Thu Sep-16-04 02:55 PM
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11. did CBS say they are not authentic... or not comment? |
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Thu Sep-16-04 07:59 PM
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13. their experts continue to say no reason to suspect - but they are looking |
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Thu Sep-16-04 02:02 PM
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8. If Rove says it - it's NOT true. Has Rove ever been caught in a truth? nt |
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Thu Sep-16-04 08:14 PM
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14. Absent actual proof they are forgeries |
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they must be assumed to be authentic. The who, what and where are plain and simple. I must have missed the part were they were actually proven to be forgeries.
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