okay here's one for you folks. sent to me by my god fearing

[okieinpain]

wife. she received it in an email that is being passed around the plant that she works at.

>Subject: Kerry~
>
>> >HMMMMMM!!!!!!
>> >
>> > > The Lord has a way of revealing those of us who really know him, and
>> those that don't! Think about it! Kerry gave a big speech last week
>about how his faith is so "important" to him. In this attempt to convince
>the
>American people that we should consider him for president, he announced
>> that his favorite Bible verse is John 16:3.
>> >
>> > >Of course the speech writer meant John 3:16, but nobody in the Kerry
>camp was familiar enough with scripture to catch the error. And do you
know
>> what John
>> >
>> > >16:3 says? John 16:3 says; "They will do such things because they
have
>> not known the Father or me." The Spirit works in strange ways.
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > >
>
>

[JimmyJazz]

1. OMG - I got the same e-mail only it said

GEORGE BUSH said those words!!!!!!!

Someone is pulling a fast one here!!!!

[never cry wolf]

2. Ahhh, tis easy when you know where to look

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/bibleverse.asp

Apparently Cal Thomas wrote in his book it was poppy.

[MsTryska]

16. *lmao*

send it back to your god-fearing who ever, with the real snopes story and say "god..the real passage sounds kinda like 9/11 doesn't it? And it was said before 9/11 even happened to Dubya's Daddy! that's creepy...."


and leave it at that.

[okieinpain]

3. never mind, checked snopes. it's false

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/bibleverse.asp

thanks god for the folks at snopes.

[stlchic]

4. That's an old one - it was circulated about Gore too.

Snopes rocks!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/bibleverse.asp

[Claire Beth]

5. Afraid not....

don't let let whoever sent you this get away with it. Here is a link that debunks the story. It's been around awhile but not true at all.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/kerrybible.htm

The Truth
This is one of those eRumors that gets circulated every election year...with the name of your least favorite candidate inserted.
It's a hoax and never happened to John Kerry.

The story has also been spread using the names of Al Gore and George W. Bush.

Christian author Cal Thomas, however, says he was present at a convention in Washington, D.C. when that slip of the lip did occur...but to then President George Bush, not Al Gore.

[stlchic]

6. Whoa - that didn't take long

DUer's know where the sources are!

:toast:

[Fridays Child]

7. Snopes debunked this.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/bibleverse.asp

[Walt Starr]

8. Have your wife publically humilate the originator

Do a Reply to All and add the following:

DEBUNKED IN LESS THAN TEN SECONDS VIA SNOPES!!!!!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/bibleverse.asp

[LisaLynne]

10. Yeah! Good idea.

That would rock.

[cheezus]

13. PS Thou shall not bare false witness

so make sure what you say isn't a lie before you say it!

Love and Jesus,
Yournamehere

[sui generis]

9. well I sure as hell don't want to be living somewhere

that I have to fear the local deity.

Those bible-studying-verse-spouting versions of christians fixate on people's faith and knowledge of the bible and use their own self-referential arguments to "prove" that the world is by gosh black or white and absolutely no color in between ever. So what if they hate Kerry. Bush has successfully targeted them and we would be wasting time and money to no avail to court them ourselves.

If they want to "prove" that god works mysteriously by flipping numbers around in a candidate's speech, I'd just have to fire back that I'd certainly hope this almighty all powerful god they subscribe to probably has better things to do than remind you where you left your keys or play charlatan's games with silly human words, otherwise it all seems kind of petty.

On Edit: groovy debunkedness but the kind of people who pass this crap around and believe it are what I'm talking about.

[sui generis]

11. and about the debunking

isn't it ironic that the same people to whom truth and godliness matter so much are willing to spread this crap around?

[OneBlueSky]

12. ya know . . . I've never understood the concept of "god-fearing" . . .

would God want us to fear him? . . . I think not . . . the God I know is all loving and all compassionate, and the last thing he wants is for his creations to fear him . . . that would be a cruel and vindictive God, and that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me . . . when people say that you have to be god-fearing to be saved, I kinda scratch my head and go "Whaaa?" . . .

[theHandpuppet]

14. I've found this to be an effective response...

... to the throngs of Bush-loving fundie hypocrites out there:

http://userpages.umbc.edu/~greagl1/sermon-on-mount.html

[gohawks]

15. Send them back this: "If George W. Bush would just pray......

this is what he would say....."

For these sins, oh forgiving God, forgive me, pardon me, grant me atonement.

For the sin I have committed before you by promising to be a compassionate conservative, but showing no compassion.

For the sin I have committed before you by waging an unjust war in Iraq in the false name of fighting terrorism.

For the sin I have committed before you by waging a political campaign built on fear, not hope.

For the sin I have committed before you by cynically exploiting the horrors of 9/11 for political gain.

For the sin I have committed before you by ignoring the plight of the poorest and weakest among our citizens.

For the sin I have committed before you by the unnecessary deaths of 1,000 young Americans, the injuries to thousands more, and the deaths and injuries to untold numbers of Iraqis.

For the sin I have committed before you by lying about my record of service in the National Guard.

For these sins, oh forgiving God, forgive me, pardon me, grant me atonement.

For the sin I have committed before you by dividing rather than uniting our people.

For the sin I have committed before you by ignoring the loss of over one million jobs in the U.S.

For the sin I have committed before you by doing nothing to provide health insurance to millions of Americans, and to stem rapidly rising prescription medicine and other health care costs.

For the sin I have committed before you by systematically weakening environmental and pollution regulations, thereby endangering public health and destroying precious wilderness resources.

For the sin I have committed before you by promising to leave no child behind, and then failing to adequately fund educational programs.

For the sin I have committed before you by allowing the assault weapons ban to die, allowing these grotesque weapons to return to our streets.

For the sin I have committed before you by bearing false witness about the reasons for going to war in Iraq.

For the sin I have committed before you by perpetuating the falsehood that increasing homeland security requires a weakening of civil rights.

For the sin I have committed before you by imposing a veil of secrecy on government decision making processes.

For these sins, oh forgiving God, forgive me, pardon me, grant me atonement.

For the sin I have committed before you by allowing the ends to justify any means.

For the sin I have committed before you by lowering taxes for only the very wealthiest Americans, enriching the few at the expense of the many.

For the sin I have committed before you by running a cynical and destructive presidential campaign, designed to destroy rather than just defeat my opponent.

For the sin I have committed before you by fighting a war in Iraq to divert attention from failures in the just war on terrorists, and from failing to act against the looming nuclear threat from Iran and North Korea.

For the sin I have committed before you by failing to make any progress in achieving a just peace between Israel and the Arabs.

For the sin I have committed before you by turning a massive government surplus into a massive deficit in less than four years, thereby burdening future generations with untold debt.

For the sin I have committed before you by unnecessarily damaging relations with American friends and allies throughout the world.

For these sins, oh forgiving God, forgive me, pardon me, grant me atonement.

For the sin I have committed before you by promoting a personal ideology rather than the interests of the people.

For the sin I have committed before you by arrogance and swagger, speaking with a forked tongue, and for the haughty exercise of power.

For the sin I have committed before you by appointing arch-conservative judges to the federal judiciary.

For the sin I have committed before you by irresponsibly damaging the reputation of the United States throughout the world.

For the sin I have committed before you by enriching my friends in the conduct of government and military affairs.

For the sin I have committed before you by encouraging xenophobia on the part of the American people.

For the sin I have committed before you by attempting to impose my extreme religious and moralistic values on the entire nation, and weakening the separation between church and state.

For the sin I have committed before you by characterizing all who oppose me as evil, and all who agree with me as good.

And for the sin I have committed before you by failing to acknowledge my responsibility for all these sins, for attempting to blame others for them, and for all the injury and damage they have caused to individuals, the Nation, and the future.

For these sins, oh forgiving God, forgive me, pardon me, grant me atonement.