Bush has a temper - what can Kerry say to get him to lose it ??

[kentuck]

:) Do we really want someone with such a short fuse leading our nation at this time?

Personally, I don't think Bush can take criticism at all. If Kerry criticizes the war on terror or the way Bush has handled the war in Iraq or how he forgot about bin Laden or how his taxcut plan has been an unmitigated disaster for our economy or that he has been a miserable failure, then Bush will not be able to contain himself. He will lose it and smirk and stutter. It's a silver bullet for Kerry.

[punpirate]

1. Hmm...

... given the history of the Bushes (as recently revealed by Kitty Kelley and others), I would say that all Kerry would have to do would be to walk up behind Bush before the start and whisper something about his mother, minorities and fellatio and that would do it.... :think:

[napi21]

2. Find a way to slam his father!

It's worked in the past and he's lost it with reporters over criticism of Poppy.

Also, what was it that got him made enough at reporters that he stalked off the podium just a few weeks ago?

[Skidmore]

5. Criticize his father AND

tell him he's just like Poppy in whatever issue is used. He spends all his time trying to prove he's not his father's son.

[kentuck]

7. Excellent !

:) I think that will work. "Just like his father, Mr Bush is out of touch with the American people.." :)

[Cassandra]

14. Or, "why didn't you learn from your father...

about going into Baghdad?"

[annabanana]

65. post # 14 HAS IT EXACTLY

This will work without seeming like an unfair attack. His father SAID not to go there.

[LittleClarkie]

82. YES! Why didn't he follow his own father's advice

Don't go in unless you know how to get out. Exactly what Kerry has been saying, so Kerry can claim correctly that even Bush's father agrees with Kerry.

Excellent.

[Vincardog]

86. Of course * listens to a Higher Father CHENEY

[ClassWarrior]

52. Even better... tell him he's like his father and criticize his mother.

He's supposed to be Bab's Boy... and he seems to have this ENORMOUS Oedipal relationship with Poppy. After all, he picked a fistfight with the old man. What could me more obvious?

23.

[LiberalFighter]

84. You mean a mommy's boy??

[LiberalFighter]

83. His daddy was worthless and...

still better than gw*

[Pirate Smile]

11. But his father was right about why not to go into Iraq. How about using

his father's words against him so he has to slam his father?

[polmaven]

43. I agree

Criticizing Bush Sr. may be seen as a low blow to many people. Commenting that his father was right, so why didn't he learn from that example, or ask for his father's advice regarding invading may be more effective, and not leave Senator Kerry open to charges of being unfair to Bush Sr.

[emulatorloo]

57. Praise his father for working w allies and building coalition

From what I see, GWB has tried to do everything opposite from his father.

[Kahuna]

17. Actually drawing the comparision to him being lesser than his ..

father is more likely to make him lose it than insulting his father.

[sadiesworld]

23. Absolutely.

Also, if Kerry lauds Poppy instead of attacking * directly, it will be much more difficult for the media to criticize Kerry for being "hateful" or "disrespectful".

[napi21]

33. Good point! Pubs can't beat him up either for praising another Pub.

I just remember how angry shrub got when the media picked on his Poppy, and how he always complained about "Saddam tried to have my Daddy killed?"

You have the better approach though, by far. It's best not to open the door to Kerry being mean and hateful.

[SayitAintSo]

32. Good point .... then call his pop a "Wimpy Girly Man" ...n/t

[salin]

93. Or making comparisons to the father's LOSING campaign

given that so much of Ws presidency seems to be devoted to not making the same mistakes...

let's see... use the phrase "STAY THE COURSE" (repeat it - it was poppy's catch phrase, but repeat it in a derogatory way... ala... "Mr. Bush, we simply can not afford to STAY THE COURSE on losing jobs; Mr. Bush, we simply can not afford to STAY THE COURSE in Iraq; ...

Add indicators about how "OUT OF TOUCH" W is (was another memorable point in the father's campaign... esp the whole grocery store/scanner thing.)

Then - for the piece de resistance - point out the big lie about taxes... that BUSHjr, like his poppy, is presiding over a period where the TAX BURDEN has increased by thousands of dollars for each tax paying citizen of the United States (I believe that the per capita debt has risen from around $20,000 per citizen to close to $25,000)...

Tie ole Geogie to Poppy - making clear the parallels.. that son is going to lose - just like dad.

[progdonkey]

28. actually, I think he should praise Poppy

One of the problems that's been dogging Bush throughout his life is his failure to live up to his father's accomplishments. HW was a scholar/athlete; W was a C-student/cheerleader. HW made a lot of money in business; W failed at every business venture he attempted, always getting bailed out by HW's friends. HW was elected president; W lost the election and needed his daddy's friends to bail him out yet again.

I think if Kerry praises HW's appreciation of the problems that would have arisen had the Desert Storm continued on to depose Saddam Hussein, Bush will not be able to control his anxiety. Kerry won't simply be saying Bush is wrong on Iraq, he would be saying (in Bush's mind) that W has proved once again that he is a failure who can't hold a candle to Poppy. It will also provide a chance for Kerry to show he is not a partisan idiot like Bush: he'll give praise where praise is due, and HW is due praise for not carrying out his own Iraqi Freedom.

The one problem is that, if memory serves me right, Kerry voted against Desert Storm. If Kerry then goes on to praise Desert Storm and Poppy, the media will harp on it as another flip-flop. Hopefully, though, Kerry's praise will instigate Bush to lose it in some form during the debates, and that will be the undeniable news made by the debate.

[Cocoa]

38. questions about Enron?

I remember a picture of him walking off after someone asked him about some development with Enron.

[radfringe]

3. ask him

if he supports the troops so much then why is he cutting benefits, extending tours of duty and did not take the time to plan an exit strategy BEFORE invading Iraq

[A_Possum]

4. That's a good idea

I hope he calls him incompetent. Some thread here suggested that when Bush pulls the "You think the world is less safe without Saddam," Kerry should say, "The terrible truth is, in spite of removing an awful dictator, you've actually screwed Iraq up so badly that the world IS less safe without him."

I thought that was good.

[Gin]

9. something needs to happen to unnerve him before the debate....

and during the debate......I imagine him sputtering and stammering...particularly without his aids...no teleprompter...no secret mike in his ear...no cheny to hold his hand...just pure bush-shit.

[kentuck]

12. He's very impatient...

as the world knows. Make him wait...and wait...

[LiberalFighter]

88. I agree...

"Being better off without Saddam" needs to be rebutted.

[Pirate Smile]

6. It needs to be something * doesn't expect to be slammed on because

during his debate prep they are trying to provoke him by saying things Kerry might say. They are trying to get him to learn to keep his cool and give him a few one-liners to try to slam Kerry with when he goes after *

Yesterday, they reported (CNN or MSNBC) that Bush's debate prep was getting pretty heated or testy with some hard glares being thrown around. Of course, the * people are probably leaking this info for their own purposes.

It needs to be something * isn't expecting.

I hope Kerry has some good people coming up with his zingers.

[Contrary1]

8. He doesn't have to say a thing.

All Kerry needs to do is to cough, clear his throat, or make a few funny facial expressions while Shrub is getting his audio feed from Rove and/or Cheney.

[buff2]

10. I've been thinking the same thing

If Kerry can get bu$h to lose his temper it will be all over for the idiot. I'm outraged that these stupid news anchors and pundits don't mention his awful temper......if someone is trying to make a point he always interrupts them with "LET ME FINISH".....JUST LET ME FINISH....and you can tell by the way he says it and the look on his face he is clearly irritated and could explode if he doesn't get his way. Kerry needs to rattle bu$h's cage in a way that won't backfire on HIM,but the best thing that could ever happen in these debates is for Kerry to make that dirt bag EXPLODE.....show the people who bu$h REALLY is. We can all see it......but we need to get the people with blinders on to see it too.

[kentuck]

15. If he says, "Let me finish..!."

Calmly respond: "You are finished." :)

[Pirate Smile]

18. I like that one. He gets so pissy if he isn't treated like a little King.

He would flip if a cell phone rings during one of his answers.

[Cha]

31. Perfecto!

How many times have I read that bush has used that command..

"Let me finish.."

[Scairp]

71. Yep

Interrupt IT constantly; that really pisses the Shrub off big time. He likes to talk and talk and talk trying to use up minutes. He should not be allowed to get away with that shit in the debates. It will be interesting to see if he does.

[Cha]

13. "bush has a temper"..all right..but will probably be

on meds to control it at the debates, eh?

[Pirate Smile]

22. That is why his doctor has to be waiting in the wings. That is in the

debate agreement.

Bush and Cheney both get their personal physicians right off stage.

Does Kerry or Edwards? No, but they don't want or need them there.

[Cha]

30. Really, Pirate?

Dr.s in the wings? This should tell some factions of the US something!!

[Pirate Smile]

42. I'll go find it in the Agreement. I can only find the full agreement on

B/C website and I always feel nauseous after going there.

http://www.georgewbush.com/media/debateagreement.pdf

bottom of page 19 (xiv)

I can't copy the section for some reason - I did a few days ago but I'm not very familiar with Adobe.

"In addition to Secret Service personnel and the President's physician and the Vice President's physician, each candidate will be permitted to have one (1)pre-designated staff member in the wings or in the immediate backstage area during the debate at a location to be mutually agreed upon by representatives of the campaigns at each site. All other staff must vacate the wings ..."

[LiberalFighter]

90. It should be publicized more.

If physicians are needed off-stage for gw/dip then the voters should have grave concern about voting for them.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Ask him if Barbara and Jenna have enlisted yet.

THAT will piss him off! I know Kerry would never say that because the next question would be...have YOUR girls enlisted? but the thought is nice.

[Vincardog]

24. Have your daughters enlisted yet? NO it is YOUR war.

[Hippo_Tron]

39. Ask him why he didn't go to Vietnam...

If he's so willing to fight optional wars, why didn't he put his life ont he line when it was time. Forget the whole AWOL thing, Bush used family connections to get into the national guard and avoid the draft. That's fact and doesn't have to be proven.

[jrthin]

19. Call him what he is: a coward

and a wimp.

[Vincardog]

20. Kerry should talk about * in the third person. Act as if he was not even

there. He should talk about Cheney's policies and plan for Imperial America that the shrub is executing. He should talk about Ashcroft's rear looking KKK policies that the shrub is embracing. He should talk about the fact that the economy has been in the dumper because of Greenspan's low-wage conservatism. He should not try to convince the shrub and barely even treat him as if he had an original thought. He has not had one since he Thought COKE and Jack Danial's work well together. By talking to the people in such a way that it is clear the shrub is a sock puppet the shrub will explode.
The facts Kerry need to list are.
The Economy is in ruins we have to get good jobs back in the USA.
The Environment is becoming more toxic by the day.
The incompetence in the WH has increased Terrorism.
We are less secure today than before 9/11 do to Laziness incompetence and Cronyism.

[Skidmore]

29. Sometimes when Kerry

speaks about *, he simply refers to him as "HE", with an emphasis on the word and does not use his name or his title at all. I like it when Kerry does this because I can't bring myself to utter his name and certainly will never use the title of President before his name.

[Chichiri]

89. Per the debate rules, I don't think they're supposed to address each other

...directly anyway.

[dumpster_baby]

21. like they pointed out on Matthews today--Interrupt him, correct him

But you better bet he will be on guard against it.

I don't think it will happen. Bushco set up the debates so that face to face confrontation could not occur.

Kerry will not get the chance to face down Bush.
Kerry is just going to have to be more charming and more incisive with his attack on bush's policies.

[Francine Frensky]

25. Dole tried to do this with clinton

Or atleast, given clinton's famous temper, that was the advice of rightwingers, to try to anger clinton.

I don't think it ever worked, and I don't think kerry will be able to do this.

Although bringing up his father gives an interesting "fork", to see if he is loyal to his father, or to his neocon advisors.

"if you had listened to your father and not gone into baghdad, we would be better off today."

what would shrub say?

[Kahuna]

26. If you google "bush blames, " you'll get 144,000 hits.

:D

[Cha]

35. Not surprised!

:D

[Kahuna]

37. Would you like to see the pissy look on *'s face if he heard that?

:7

[kentuck]

40. That would be a great point to make in the debate...

If you google "Bush Blames..", you get 144,000 hits !

[Kahuna]

41. I love it. I was saving it for Wes if he got the nomination. But I'd

love to see Kerry use it.

[SayitAintSo]

27. ".....Peeance.... Freeance .....''' n/t

[kentuck]

34. It's important that Kerry not initiate the perceived criticisms...

Bush is an aggressive person. He will give Kerry several openings. That is when Kerry shoots him down. Then he will not be seen as the bully or trying to make Bush "look bad" if he responds from a defensive posture.... I think that would be the best way to handle Bush.

For example, Bush will say something like, "My opponent doesn't know which side he is on - for example, he says he voted for the $87 billion before he voted against it. He says it was a complex question. It's not a complicated question whether or not to defend our troops..." Kerry must have a response for this. He knows it is coming.

Kerry could respond, "Mr Bush likes to toss around the "flip-flop" label when he was the person that was against creating a 9/11 Commission before he was for it. He was the one against creating our Homeland Security Dept before he was for it. And just a few weeks ago, he said the war on terror could not be won before he came out the next day and changed his mind. And as far as the $87 billion vote goes, my vote did not determine whether the bill passed or not. However, Mr Bush threatened to veto the same bill. He was willing to kill the $87 billion dollar if his wealthy friends were asked to contribute by giving up a little of their taxcuts. So I think Mr Bush is being a little hypocritical on this issue."

[Borgnine]

36. Even though he shouldn't, Kerry could drop the W bomb on Bush.

'Wimp.'

It sets off every man in this pathetic family.

[JackintheGreen]

44. Simple

Just ask:

George, who WOULD Jesus bomb?

[Radical Activist]

45. I'm Rick James, Bitch!

[Kahuna]

46. Since bush didn't know who Stevie Wonder is, I doubt he knows who

Rick James is either.

[rocktivity]

94. Bush knows who Stevie Wonder is

That's why he once tried to wave at him!

:headbang:
rocknation

[AntiFascist]

47. The war is increasing terrorism

Kerry has done a great job of coming to the conclusion that it was a mistake to start the war in Iraq. Now he needs to go all the way and point out that we are making worldwide terrorism worse, not better. All he has to do is ask Bush if he is aware of what President Musharraf, an important American ally, recently said on the subject: "it has aroused actions of the Muslims more." "it has ended up bringing more trouble to the world."

[GingerSnaps]

48. Ask a question that isn't scripted

Bush will be on psychotic drugs so that he won't fly off the handle.

[Quixote1818]

68. You cant ask the other candidate a question. This format sucks!

[EndElectoral]

49. Here's the BEST way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kerry should Start the debate by saying -

"Mr. Bush, there's been a lot of talk about the rules for these debates by the Presidential Commission, including a rather lengthy list of restrictions. In respect of the importance of these elections, AND the need for the American people to hear the truth about each of our positions, let's open up this debate and agree to remove these silly rules and permit direct questions of each other and direct dialogue. I think America wants to see us go toe to toe on these issues, and I'm ready to commit to that if you are. And therefore my first question is would you please take that earphone out and talk to me with your own words?"

I would love to see Chimp's face. He'd be done after that.

[ClassWarrior]

53. Wow, that'd be awesome.

23.

[Pirate Smile]

56. No opening statements during the debates - only closing statements.

[EndElectoral]

60. So do it on the first question..or break the rules, make a statement!!!

Like anyone is going to stop him....

[autorank]

77. Absolutely brilliant!!! n/t

[Southern Patriot]

91. OUTSTANDING!!!!

NFM

[Lex]

50. Smirk is particularly defensive/sensitive about his father.

Any slight slap at his father's presidency will set him off big time.

It would be neat if Kerry could work that in some way.

[Cocoa]

51. he should break the debate rules

Bush looked really petty when he whined about Gore breaking the rules.

[Pirate Smile]

58. That would be good. He would look like a little whiny wuss.

You are not supposed to even ask each other direct questions. Kerry needs to pick a strong question that would put Bush on the defensive and ask it to him directly.

[Stephanie]

54. "George, Tell the TRUTH about Iraq."

Tell the TRUTH about ignoring the 9/11 warnings.

Tell the TRUTH about the WMDs

Tell the TRUTH about the forged Nigers docs.

Tell the TRUTH about Cheney's energy panel.

Tell the TRUTH about your Guard records.

Tell the TRUTH about your arrests and convictions and why you erased your Texas driver's license record.

Tell the TRUTH about your insider Harken trading.

Tell the TRUTH about the medications you are on and whether or not you are drinking. Tell the TRUTH about how the pretzel and the bicycle caused you to fall so hard on your face.

Tell the TRUTH
Tell the TRUTH
Tell the TRUTH
Tell the TRUTH
Tell the TRUTH

[Stephanie]

55. Call him GEORGE

Remember how snippy he's gotten with reporters who say Sir instead of Mr. President. Calling him George will really piss off the little prick.

[misterphelps]

59. Ask him how many lines he did to prepare

[IronLionZion]

61. get him drunk first,

But I would love to see Cheney explode and start dropping F-bombs on live TV. That would Rock!


Bush can just stumble over words and babble incoherently like a drunken buffoon. And Kerry will come across as very competent and well-spoken. It's shocking to see the huge difference between the two Yale men.

[seabeyond]

62. call him a wimp,......challenge his manhood

tell him he has a little penis. wink

[progressivebydesign]

63. Subtly refer to his height.. or insult the Texas Rangers. n/t

[A-Schwarzenegger]

64. Accidentally call him "Brain-damaged Cokehead".

"Now, as Brain-Damaged Cokehead just said -- I mean, as George just said..."

[DoYouEverWonder]

66. Just ask him, oh by the way, where's Osama?

Or ask him a question where the answer is Abu Ghraib and then laugh at him everytime he pronounces it wrong.

[Quixote1818]

67. McCain got him mad when he brought up the Veterans attacking him

When Bush knows he has done something unethical he feels guilty and when he feels guilty I think thats when he gets mad. Why? Because it reminds him he does not like himself or that he is not a good person. This is human nature and people often get angry when they feel guilty. Remember how McCain looked at Bush and said "That really hurts". Think of how we feel when someone tells us that something we did really hurt their feelings? We feel GUILTY! Kerry should look for things like this.

[randr]

69. Ask him if his booster chair is comfortable

[merh]

70. Ask him to say the name of that prison in Iraq . . .

Aboo Giraff, Abboo Grab, Aboo Go "f**k yourself", said the chimpy to the moderator.

[kaitykaity]

72. That would be the Gerald Ford "Poland" moment.

What a great idea.

[Zen Democrat]

73. Bush has developed some unnerving facial tics and weird expressions

lately -- more so than before, that is. In some of his recent speeches he's been licking his lips and moving his clenched jaw back and forth like a crack fiend.

In order to prevent this, Team Bush may have him shot up with tranquilizers. We've all seen him in those somnambulant performances with eyes glazed over, looking all for the world totally bored and disinterested.

Whichever one shows up is good for us. This guy isn't NORMAL.

[AntiFascist]

78. ummmm.....

I wish I could have had that question beforehand so I could've prepare for it...

[Pepperbelly]

74. an obscene, lean-in whisper when they shake hands saying ...

something like, after I kick your stupid ass, I'm going to fuck your old sow of a mama in her puckered asshole, boy.

That would get things started in a good way.

Shhhhh ...

[hyphenate]

75. Good idea

Unless he's got an earpiece on, waiting for Master Rove or Dickhead to tell him to calm down.

[autorank]

76. Say 'Bush spends too much time thinking about homosexual marriage.'

[Lefty48197]

79. Dis pappy Bush at the first debate

Mention that his dad pulled troops out of Iraq basically leaving that terrible dictator in power to do as he pleases. Watch Jr. blow a gasket!

[underpants]

80. Kerry:"I have ALWAYS been a devout Christian"

Do you think that would work?

[POAS]

81. WHile discussing Iraq War

point out that some ppeople don't want their "beautiful minds" bothered with images of death in Iraq, hence no images of fallen hero's remains being returned home.

Provided the dimwit realizes the reference to Mom he might lose it there.

[LiberalFighter]

85. Eat pretzels and then offer one to him

[Jim__]

87. I think bush will be in full robotic mode.

Mostly, he'll just stick to his talking points; be told not to respond emotionally to anything Kerry says. Possibly he'll be on his most calming meds.

It would be great if Kerry could rouse him. But, personally, I expect the debates to be a great big nothing.

[dave502d]

92. Spell

Ask him to spell potato