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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:04 PM
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Poll question: How many undecideds on DU?
I'm guessing the overwhelming majority of us have picked a candidate. Let's find out. If you are not absolutely sure who you would vote for today in the Democratic primary, please count yourself as undecided.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:08 PM
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1. ABB - and I will back it up
Yes, I am undecided; much to like about Dean, Gephardt, Clark, Kerry, Edwards. Sharpton, Kucinich and Moseley-Braun are a little too marginal; Lieberman too Republican. Our nation is at stake, here. Will decide by March, but will support anybody against Bush, enthusiastically and wholeheartedly, and hope other DUers will do the same.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:36 PM
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9. Ditto that for me, fay.
Exactly what I was going to say.
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:52 PM
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12. Exactly
I don't know what to do, who to pick. It sucks not being able to get energized like so many people on the board.

I think the Bushco 3+ years is sapping me dry...

:shrug:
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:42 AM
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26. Re: Exactly
I don't know what to do, who to pick. It sucks not being able to get energized like so many people on the board.

I don't know where you are so maybe you still time.

Hey, take as much as you need, don't worry about other people being so sure, just learn all that you can about all of the candidates and do the right thing for you!

And in the meantime go pick on a republican about bush's horrible record, it'll make you feel better :-)
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:09 PM
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2. I'll freely admit that I'm undecided. Actually "torn" is a better word.
Edited on Fri Jan-09-04 04:10 PM by XNASA
Deep down, Kuchinich is the candidate I want. But he can't beat Bush.

Dean is the candidate that I've supported, even before his popularity.

But the best ticket, in my opinion, would be Kerry/Edwards.

I'm secretly, or not so secretly now, impressed with Edwards.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:12 PM
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3. I'm pretty sure I'll be making a decision after IA/NH
and if everything goes okay, Kleeb will be pleased.
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GregorStocks Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:12 PM
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4. Well, sorta the second one...
The first part, at least.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:15 PM
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5. Undecided between two.
I'm happy to know that the decision to support a candidate is so tough! It means the Democrats have fielded a great crop of candidates, which I thoroughly believe. I wish they could all be merged together into an uber-candidate.
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adriennel Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:15 PM
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6. will vote in Dem primary for sure
not sure who I will vote for. since I change my mind a couple of times a day, I have a feeling I will not know for sure who I am voting for until Feb 7, the MI primary (not a major one anyway).
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:21 PM
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7. What, No Option for
"I've picked my candidate but Bush is sure to win reelection"? :smoke:
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:14 AM
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25. Nope, Bush winning is not an option.
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jeffcal005 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:26 PM
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8. dumb
dumb post... 2 options?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:38 PM
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10. Either
you are undecided, or you're not. What option are you looking for?

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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:49 PM
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11. I'm slipping into the undecided ranks.
My original candidate has been saying a lot of things that make me question his integrity and commitment and so I'm looking at another candidate who, leately, is saying things more along my line of thinking.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 04:59 PM
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13. Undecided amongst 3 (obviously)
Joe Gep DK Sharpton Braun are and always have been out of the picture. No chance to win the nomination let alone a Presidential race.

Edwards? He's there but he won't win either...either

Kerry (my original pick)
Dean(leading for the time being)
Clark( coming on strong)
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:06 PM
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14. There are more of us than people think
who are genuinely undecided.

For myself, I want the candidate who has the best chance to win next year. I'll support the nominee without hesitation, but I intend to vote for the one who has the best chance of winning.

I had narrowed the field to Clark, Gephardt, and Dean, but Kerry and Edwards have shown some signs of life lately, too. Results in Iowa and NH will have an influence on me, but I'm not just going to go with the winner by default.

I wish I had more time to see more of the real campaign - during the primaries, while votes are actually being cast - but my state (SC) is Feb 3, so I have to decide soon.

Good luck to all, and may the best canidate win - in November!
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:15 PM
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15. I've decided, but ABB, baby! n/t
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:44 PM
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16. You might have a biased sample here in the GD2004 forum
A lot of undecideds (myself, included) probably don't spend much time in this forum, which is dominated by partisans of particular candidates. So the true fraction of undecideds here at DU is probably somewhat higher than the results of this poll indicate.

:shrug:

--Peter
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 05:49 PM
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17. I thought of that, but I didn't think I could post it in GD.
Although I guess maybe since I didn't mention any candidates I could have... at any rate, there are clearly alot more undecideds than I thought.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 06:13 PM
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18. kick
:kick:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 06:28 PM
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19. I am still undecided
The person I would GLADLY give my vote to was the first to withdraw - Senator Graham.

I like 4 of the current candidates for various reasons...Kerry, Clark, Dean and Kucinich.

I like what both Sharpton and Mosely Braun have contributed to the debates but they won't be in the race by the time it reaches California (most likely)..If they are..my vote MAY very well GO to one of the two simply because I think it is BULLSHIT and UNAMERICAN that (especially in CMB's case) a qualified African American, let alone a FEMALE still is NOT taken seriously in presidential races

I am NOWHERE near being decided since while I see great qualities in the four I have named, I also see too many contradictions to rectify it for myself as of yet.

I like Dean's fighting spirit..I am not comfortable with some of his actions as governor, some of his statements and mostly his need to backtrack and explain himself.

Kerry IMHO has the most LIBERAL record of the four, but has run a poor campaign, put his foot in his mouth a few times as well and really DOES have trouble rectifying his vote with his other positions regarding IWR (that is a shift for me)

Kucinich again has good fight in him for the working folks and was the most instrumental in bringing the issues to light PRIOR to the war of any of the Dems but his votes where women's reproductive rights are concerned in the past are a problem for me in spite of his new found tolerance for a woman's right to self determination.

Clark again has many good points and watching him speak is probably his greatest attribute, but the SOA issue..combined (even though he did explain it to the satisfaction of SOME) with his support of Reagan and Bush 1 is BEYOND me given that he has an economics degree.


The only one I have given short shrift to is Edwards, NOT because he isn't quite inspiring in many regards close to my heart..he is plain old TOO inexperienced for my tastes.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 07:29 PM
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20. waiting 'tll after the dem and green party nominations before...
deciding anything.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 07:32 PM
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21. ABB here, too.
I'm leaning towards someone, but I picked undecided because I'm not yet firm in my decision. But I'll definitely vote against Bush no matter who wins.
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:44 PM
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22. Kick for the undecideds.
n/t
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:55 PM
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23. as I researched everyone early on, Edwards was clearly my guy
everything he's done since has supported that, everything everyone else has done further supports it.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 10:02 PM
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24. Yup ... Still Undecided
and i'm none too happy that the primaries are so front loaded this year ... i think this process needs to evolve ... democrats are not ready to crown anyone king just yet ...

my still in the runnings (in alphabetical order) are: clark, kerry, kucinich ...

dean is not in the running ... i like many of his stands on the issues ... but i have numerous, real problems with him ... i hope he falters sooner rather than later so we can get a stronger ticket ...
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:10 AM
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27. I am undecided on my 2nd choice, and since my 1st choice is Kucinich....
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 09:19 AM by cryofan
....well, I probably need to get a 2nd choice, as the top of the Kucinich campaign is a bit of an amateur playground, and that fact is obviously reflected in the polls. That is really sad, oonsidering the fact that Kucinich is clearly the best candidate we have had in recent times. Hell, maybe the best major candidate ever!

Edwards is out unless I can find good evidence he is a liberal. Just look at his donor numbers: he has a greater percentage of big money donors than anyone, even Lieberman.

As for Dean, his past words and actions show him to be an enemy of the left, an enemy of progressive taxation, and an enemy of the social safety net. He is obviously a cryptoRepublican (see www.mylinuxisp.com/~cryofan/dean.html for proof). And his deception makes him somewhat loathesome, in my eyes. And that is really a shame, because he is the most talented speaker I have even seen in politics. And his campaign is a wonder to behold--truly magnificent and groundbreaking...what a shame to have such a campaign built around a damn PseudoLiberal.

Lieberman is obviously a Republican, and not even a cryptoRepublican, like Dean. Nuff said....

Sharpton is a crook. Nuff said....

I really really like what Moseley-Braun has to say. She could possibly be a very good president. Unfortunately, I think that every black politician I have ever seen is looking out more for fellow blacks than everyone else in the country. Carole could be an exception, however. Also, she had an ethical cloud hanging over her when she was busted out of the Senate. However, given her somewhat leftist leanings, she could have been framed by the media. If CMB somehow rises in polls, I could go for her.

So, when it gets down to cold reality, my second choice comes down to Clark, currently running for first, right with Gephardt, closely followed by Kerry. Clark is starting to sound like a real lefty. I really like that, even though he could be lying. But it is good just to hear the things he is saying about taxation. Gephardt is well known for his pro-labor record. Can't go wrong there! Kerry supposedly has a solid liberal record, and he is talking a lot of progressive talk lately. I go back and forth between these three on a daily basis.

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:18 PM
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28. Once it's over 100 votes I don't think we'll see the percentages change
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 12:27 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
much. Wow 43% undecided -- not at all what I expected. For example, that's more than double the number of undecided in ARG NH poll. And I can't really think of reasons why candidate supporters would vote undecided to skew the results... interesting.
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