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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:10 PM
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Oh...we have been very bad...
Democrats May Steal Election as Voter Registration Grows A Despite Kerry's lagging polls, the Democrats still plan to win this November.
How?
Perhaps by the old fashioned way: stealing the election.
Insider Report reported weeks ago that the 527 groups supporting Kerry, and backed by the likes of billionaire George Soros, were earmarking most of the $160 million they have raised toward voter registration and "get out the vote" efforts.
Approximately two-thirds of the 527 money - or a $100 million - will go toward these efforts.
Republicans believe many of these voter registration efforts open up the door for qualified and multiple voting schemes on Election Day.
Worse, the 527's are now claiming they will spend three times what has been previously reported to "get out the vote."
One pro-Kerry group, America Votes, told the New York Times that its backers - "labor unions, trial lawyers, environmental groups, community organizations - will spend $300 million on registration and turnout in swing states, a sum that dwarfs the $150 million in public financing the two candidates together will receive for the entire fall campaign."
NewsMax has also reported that only a handful of states were being targeted for this avalanche of cash, notably Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
However, Republicans believe this will lay the groundwork not for a Democratic electoral victory on November 2nd, but for election theft on November 2nd.
NewsMax reports were confirmed this Sunday in the New York Times, which headlined its story "A Big Increase of New Voters in Swing States."
The paper said, " A sweeping voter registration campaign in heavily Democratic areas has added tens of thousands of new voters to the rolls in the swing states of Ohio and Florida, a surge that has far exceeded the efforts of Republicans in both states, a review of registration data shows."
As it turned out in 2000, Bush won Florida by less than a 1000 votes, and Ohio by about 30,000 votes.
Republicans have been shy about raising the voter registration and fraud issue because of the race issue; Democrats have been quick to say the Republicans are "racist" for challenging voter registration efforts in minority and inner city areas.
But the Times notes that's exactly where the Democrats have been focusing their resources.
The paper reported: "The analysis by The New York Times of county-by-county data shows that in Democratic areas of Ohio - primarily low-income and minority neighborhoods - new registrations since January have risen 250 percent over the same period in 2000. In comparison, new registrations have increased just 25 percent in Republican areas.
"A similar pattern is apparent in Florida: in the strongest Democratic areas, the pace of new registration is 60 percent higher than in 2000, while it has risen just 12 percent in the heaviest Republican areas."
Of course, the Kerry campaign says it has nothing to do with the 527 efforts, but they appear to be happy with the results.
"We know it's going on, and it's a very encouraging sign," Steve Elmendorf, deputy campaign manager for Senator John Kerry, told the Times. He added that these efforts "could very much be the difference" for Kerry.
Steve Rosenthal, the head of another 527 group - Americans Coming Together, or ACT - told the Times, "I think what's happening on the streets, below the radar, is what's going to make the big difference on Election Day."
Rosenthal claimed that by Election Day the 527 groups will have registered two and a half million new voters.
A chart in the Times showed that the Democrat registrations are outpacing Republicans in Ohio and Florida by five times or more.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:13 PM
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1. Please insert some
paragraph breaks in there...

That's really hard to read all the way through.

Thanks!
FSC
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:13 PM
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2. Link?
Or is this your very own jumbled analysis?
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:15 PM
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5. newsmax
If I remember correctly
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:17 PM
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8. Just what I suspected
Very similar to another post about African Americans allegedly voting for Bush in large numbers.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:30 PM
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15. Well, hold on, there Deuts
All's my friends are gonna vote for Massa Boosh!!!
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:50 PM
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23. Ooooh, lawsey me!
I ain't a-sayin' nuffin' ta get Massa mad, now!

:hi:
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:13 PM
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3. What's the problem with registering voters?
Do you have to be a rich white guy in the suburbs to vote?
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shrub chipper Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:15 PM
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4. How dare the Democrats...
actually try to get people to vote!!!

How un-American!!!!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:16 PM
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6. How dastardly!
Registering people to vote and getting them to the polls! Will Democrats stop at nothing to win? Don't the Democrats know that only Bush supporters are allowed to vote?

By the way, for the doofus wringing his hands in the original post (I know it's not PDX Prog), ACT stands for "America Coming Together." Please strive for accuracy in your lunatic ramblings.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:17 PM
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7. Getting more people to vote for your candidate is "stealing"?
:wtf:
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:18 PM
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9. Now that's how intellegent people steal. Unlike dumbasses. LOL
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alonso_quijano Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:19 PM
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10. This is from Newsmax, right?
It's like they don't even read the stuff they quote:

"A chart in the Times showed that the Democrat registrations are outpacing Republicans in Ohio and Florida by five times or more."

So, the Get Out The Vote effort is a ... Get Out The Vote effort! Quelle horreur! (for lurking Freepers, that's pansy-surrender-frog-speak for "Get the fuck outta here!")

(Oh, and that "Democrat registrations" is a dead giveaway that it's written by a knuckle-dragger. Newsmax: Who needs journalism?)
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:19 PM
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11. Am wondering if this "under the radar" registration effort
could make all the difference in the election?? Thanks for this report and for raising my hopes!
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:35 PM
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18. I think it will!
Add in all of the cell phone users who do not get polled, and I am hoping a landslide is lurking....
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:26 PM
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12. It's the Orwell, stupid!!!!
legally getting out the vote is stealing the election.

questioning the conduct of the war is aiding the enemy.

cutting back the tax breaks is increasing middle class taxes.

thinking about issues before acting is flip-flopping.

a wartime AWOL'er is better than a wartime hero.

Just take any issue, turn it 180, skewer to the right, and you have the next Repug talking point.

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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:34 PM
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17. I think you have hit on something!
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 02:29 PM
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25. and if you don't believe that
a short stay in the Ministry of Love will fix your attitude :)
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 02:33 PM
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26. You do Yoda proud !
:thumbsup:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:27 PM
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13. Funny, isn't it?
Registering folks to vote is theft - installing bad ballots and removing folks likely to vote against you from voter rolls is defending democracy.

We live in one fucked up world.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:28 PM
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14. Where did the number $160 million come from? I'm curious.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:34 PM
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16. I got this from an idiot RW'er...
Just kind of rubbed it in....exactly WHAT is illegal about registering voters? I also threw in some of the Gore 2000 statistics for him.

I get SO much crap from this guy....last week alone I found out that the freemasons were taking over the world. The Jews and homosexuals were taking over the world, and the all famous "communists" were taking over the world.

The opening line in one of his emails was, "you REALLY don't know what's going on in the world DO YOU?" I replied, "I know what's going on in mine, but I have NO IDEA what's going on in your little narrow minded world!"

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:37 PM
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19. I am sorry, but getting people to register
so they can vote is not stealing the election. Stealing the election would be preventing people who are eligible to vote from being able to register and to vote.
:spank:
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:41 PM
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21. If you want a good laugh, here is the opening line in the email...
THOU SHALT NOT STEAL !!!!

Republicans will not raise the felon issue in Florida for fear of riots by blacks.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:38 PM
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20. At least we haven't asked churches to send us their directories
Nuff Said.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:42 PM
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22. Republicans know how to win.

Let me explain. They have taken almost every negative and turned it around:

Bush war sucks? Spin it positive everyday, accuse negatives of undermining troops morale and lending support to terrorists. Accuse challenger of having NO PLAN to do any better.

Republicans steal the election? Spin it-Democrats are going to steal it. How? George Soros (who's been dragged throught the RNC mud for months)he's bad remember? We accuse them, they accuse us - it's diffused. He said/she said.

* was AWOL? Kerry threw away medals!, he lied to get them. Hell he onlt serverd 4 months in Vietnam. I hear Kerry went to Paris and met with the enemy, and stayed with Jane Fonda!

Healthcares a mess? It's the damn trial lawyers. It's their fault. John Edwards is a trial lawyer? Ugh. If it wasn't for these trial lawyers - women could get decent healthcare. Damn democrats.

Economy / outsourcing? Pssst, Teresa Ketchup outsources tons of jobs for her damn ketchup! John Kerry's rich, he doesnt understand. He windsurfs while our great leader WORKS on a farm! Awol* speaks American - not f-in French! Now, what were we talking about?

That's how they do it. They don't care they've failed for 4 years. Doesn't matter. When you have the administration in line, and 80% of every news organization (on Television) repeating it....it doesn't matter.

Awol hasn't been in DC for more than 4)% of presidency - he's been campaigning. He's been spinning and making speeches. What was the SOTU? A commercial for *.

However: He's at 50%, he should be at 70%. It's not over, but we need to keep telling our side, and wake the people up.

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 02:23 PM
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24. with last 4 digits of social or Drivers license #
how can people vote more than once?
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