Pub Report: "We shouldn't even be having an election during wartime"

[LittleClarkie]

said the bartender.

My comment back was, "But when does a war on "terror" ever end?"

I'm sure he was thinking Iraq though.

I also asked about the possibility that a corrupt president would just make sure he was at war come election time. The bartender thought that the President would never do that.

Another girl heard us talking, and mentioned that last time she voted, she discovered that her boyfriend had voted Bush to her Gore, and she felt that they cancelled each other out.

This time around she toyed with the idea of not even bothering. Luckily the college kids yelled at her, saying that how important every count is, that she is an American and should exersize the right that so many don't have. So she did indeed sound like she would be voting. I hope so.

We talked about how intense this year felt, and that every vote really does count. Oddly enough, she also mentioned that some of her friends had found a passage in Revelations that made it sound like Dubya was the anti-Christ. Told ya ;) She sounded like she half-believed that.

But it was that "We shouldn't even have elections" comment and the idea of leting Bush have a total of 8 years in the White House to do what he pleases that really got me.

I've heard that twice now, that we shouldn't be having elections during war. This time, the same bartender added that he didn't think Kerry knows anything about terrorism and how to fight it, and that we should just stay the course with Bush. I started to say that actually Kerry knows alot and has even writtn books on the subject when the bartender had to go wait on someone. Rat farts!

"We shouldn't even be having elections" == a Bush blank check.

How can someone say that. How can they think we're doing well, or even well enough, in Iraq.

Does Kerry have any experience in dealing with terrorism? Yes, yes he does. He understands that part of fighting terrorism is getting these pocket book, so to speak. He understands that the drug trade funds alot of these people.

[Downtown Hound]

1. God what a moran

We've had elections in wars much more bloody than this one. I love it how they think that you have to shut down democracy in order to save it.

[aquart]

2. Were elections suspended during World War II? World War I?

The Civil War? The VietNam War? The War of 1812? When have we ever suspended elections for war????


That IS what you said, right?

[LittleClarkie]

3. Yes

I brought up World War II. We've had elections before in wartime.

Where is this talking point coming from? I know the local morning talk guys have said this, but usually these talking points come from Rush or somebody, so that the dittoheads can repeat it. So who, aside from ol' Zig Zag, has been going around saying we shouldn't have elections?

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Next time ask the keep

were elections cancelled during the Civil War?

NO

Were elections cancelled during WW I

No

How abuot WW II

NO

How about the Cold War?

No

so how can he justify this since this is NOT WW III (I know wooseley has said otherwise, I suspect your keep does not read the New Yorker or read obscure stories at CNN... )

[VOX]

10. Perfectly stated, nadinbrzezinski.

100%.

:toast:

[saracat]

5. Ask the bartender why if Bush knows so much about terrorism, why did he

ignore his terrorism Czar? Why did he let him quit? And why has he created new terrorists by ignoring his own intelligence report stipulating that terrorism would be exacerbated by invading Iraq? Sounds to me like Bush only knew how to create terrorism not how to end it!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. Terrorism gives shrub a reason to be. Otherwise, he is looking at

approval ratings below 40%. Could explain his behavior.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Oh their internals are absolutely horrible

by the way rumors of martial law are floating again

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. Good.... they will have to deal with the consequences of their own

actions... only on a grander scale... remember who settled this country... it wasn't a bunch of pantywaists....

"Marshall Dillon.... stop your killin'....."

[StrongbadTehAwesome]

6. This always cracks me up.

Did we cancel elections during the Civil War, when major battles were taking place ON AMERICAN SOIL? Nope.

[AnIndependentTexan]

7. Remember Bush said it himself that a dictatorship would be easier.

so does this mean the GOP are brainwashing people to believe we don't need a election at all?

[Dem2theMax]

12. You can also say

'It's not a frigging WAR, it's an INVASION!'

Pisses me off so much when it's referred to as war. We invaded the country for crying out loud. Iraq considers themselves to be occupied, not 'having friends over to take care of them.'

[secular_warrior]

13. If politicians stop having to answer to the people during war,

never ending war becomes an incentive for politicians to remain in power.

The classic method dictators use to retain power is to create war in order to squelch dissent by accusing the dissenters of being unpatriotic. Hitler did this.

Elections, dissent and holding our leaders accountable are essential to democracy -- ESPECIALLY during wartime. It is what separates us from dictatorships.

ps. Thank goodness for our founding fathers !!! As the saying goes: "a government created by geniuses to be run by idiots".