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Wed Sep-29-04 07:26 PM
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Atrios: "MSNBC Cans Luntz" |
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Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 07:28 PM by abernste
Media Matters ROCKS!
From Atrios:
"Looks like the letter had an impact. Although MSNBC did not respond to Brock, a spokeswoman for the network told HOH late Wednesday that the network has decided “not to go with Frank for the debate.” In fact, MSNBC won’t conduct polling at all now, she said."
**snip**
On Edit: The nation may not be better of then we were four years ago, but our side is sure a hell of a lot stronger.
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:27 PM
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1. Jesus Christ thank you! |
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This is the first good news I've heard from the media. Is it true?
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:27 PM
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OMG, you just made my week!!!!!
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:28 PM
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3. Wow, that is great news. |
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:28 PM
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4. What's this all about??? |
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:29 PM
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:33 PM
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11. holy crap, Brock rocks! n/t |
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:34 PM
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12. Hmmm...it seems that Luntz is a charlatan |
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wonder if the right will string him up now that he's been exposed.
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:42 PM
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:30 PM
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7. I heard Minority Report talking about it |
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Media Matters had a campaign going.
www.mediamatters.org
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:40 PM
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Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 07:41 PM by sonicx
It's not a Tom Cruise movie, damnit! :D
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:47 PM
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Thu Sep-30-04 11:48 AM
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47. And the liberal/progressive viewpoint I S . T H E . M A J O R I TY... |
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... in this country -- contrary to the Rethug spin. (Similar to "liberal media", the propaganda that the conservative viewpoint is the majority is total b-s.)
Thus... The Majority Report
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:30 PM
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I called them earlier today and left a message about luntz the putz. Great job everyone!
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:32 PM
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8. David Brock is making amends for his time on the dark side. |
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:48 PM
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and he knows it. But that he is an "ex" republican gives him a certain... credibility, since he's seen the beast from the inside. That also gives him a certain...insight in how to fight it.
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Wed Sep-29-04 10:05 PM
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43. Still conservative, but no longer an idiot. |
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You can at least listen to him now.
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:32 PM
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This is just amazing!..I had read earlier |
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on here that luntz was going to poll or whatever for msrnc after the dabate(sic) and I thought,"of course, he is!".
Wonder if ol' frank is torn up about it?
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:32 PM
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9. Too little, too late for Gore but great news |
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:35 PM
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Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 07:36 PM by PROGRESSIVE1
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THANK YOU ATRIOS!!!
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:36 PM
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:39 PM
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15. holy shit !!!! I am stunned and elated. |
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:41 PM
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I can't believe they ever trotted him out as independent or unbiased. He wrote the contract on america for goodness sake!
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:42 PM
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19. About friggin time, now we need to work on Schiender |
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:03 PM
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29. Schneider is very similar -- AEI affiliation is not disclosed on air... |
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just on his online bio. And he carries the title "CNN Senior Political Analyst"!
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:14 PM
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32. You should have seen the email I wrote to Blitzer. |
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:46 PM
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20. Lest any one of us doubt the power of the Blogosphere... |
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Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 07:48 PM by GainesT1958
And of non-profit websites legitimately "for truth", HERE IT IS, folks!:D
Apparently, even some of the media whores are starting to notice. Otherwise, why would USA Today feel the need to respond to massive criticism of Gallup's extreme bias in its polling demographics? Most of that criticism came from places--and people--like Atrios (Eschaton), KOS, DonkeyRising (Ruy Texiera), Josh Marshall, and, yes, right here from us DUers.
Because of the hell they--and we--raised about Mr. Repub Frank Luntz, he will NOT be a factor during, or after, the debate; we WON'T be subjected to his "push-polling" live on the air of a focus group, nor will they even do a post-debate poll.
Howard Dean may not have been my man during the primaries, but the Doctor was dead-on right when he said:
YOU have the power!:D
I'm lovin'it!:bounce:
:kick:
B-)
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:46 PM
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Frank Luntz is a Republican putz. He always drove me nuts with his stupid focus groups.
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:49 PM
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You're next.
"Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear."
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:21 PM
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34. Yes...CNN should fire Howie Kurtz or have him declare his Repug Wife |
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Sherri Annis works for a Repug PR Firm every time he appears smearing CBS and as Host of his show Reliable Sources...casting a "spotlight on the media."
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Thu Sep-30-04 12:05 PM
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49. Howie's "media reports" in the WaPo should have the same disclaimer. |
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It's like having their own little Fox "Fair and Balanced" reporter who's nothing of the kind.
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:55 PM
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25. Damn, I might have to start having faith again. |
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This is wonderful. truly. :)
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:56 PM
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26. Wow that is great news! |
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Wed Sep-29-04 07:57 PM
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27. that's excellent, but CNN might try to get Luntz |
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:02 PM
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28. "That would actually be pretty funny" n/t |
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:06 PM
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they have a marketing agreement with Gallup.. if this is true it must have just been decided: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58682-2004Sep29.htmlFRANK LUNTZ Occupation: Republican pollster. Thursday night he will conduct a nonpartisan focus group for MSNBC, gauging reaction to the presidential debate.
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:06 PM
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31. I'm looking forward to Friday's |
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WE WILL WE WILL BROCK YOU !!
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Thu Sep-30-04 10:26 AM
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This is a really great thing that Media Matters help spearhead.
Luntz was evil--trying to pass himself off as neutral when in fact he was a republican spin-meister! And MSNBC was letting it happen until they got called on it!
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:19 PM
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news I've heard all day.
Luntz is a slimy SOB and, if I recall, actually wrote the book on Neocon lexicon.........hence "death tax" etc.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:24 PM
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35. Atrios is on the Majority Report on AAR right now |
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speaking about Luntz's departure.
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:27 PM
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36. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! |
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Excellent, excellent.
Congratulations to all of us!
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:31 PM
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Dems are learning...getting stronger...it will make a huge difference!
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:34 PM
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39. This is GREAT news - Media Matters DOES rock! |
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Wed Sep-29-04 08:47 PM
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40. Wow, just two minutes ago I e-mailed my complaint to them |
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That is great news indeed. Here's Frank Luntz biography. Sickening that anyone would hire him as a pollster, who is SUPPOSED to be unbiased. http://www.harrywalker.com/speakers_template.cfm?Spea_ID=424
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Wed Sep-29-04 10:05 PM
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42. I fired off an email today per media matters suggestion!!!! |
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Of course, my email probably didn't have squat to do with this, but still it is empowering, isn't it?!
Wow.
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Thu Sep-30-04 12:19 PM
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MSNBC Cans Luntz
The watchdog organization Media Matters for America was none too pleased that MSNBC had scheduled GOP pollster Frank Luntz conduct on-air focus groups following tonight’s presidential debate.
In a letter to MSNBC President Richard Kaplan, Media Matters President David Brock (who used to call himself a conservative), said he hoped the network would disclose Luntz’s "partisan Republican ties and history of questionable scientific methodology."
Brock cited a number of examples, including Luntz’s work on the 1994 Republican "Contract with America," pointing out that Luntz was reprimanded by the American Association for Public Opinion Research for refusing to disclose data on how he surmised that 60 percent of Americans supported the Contract. Brock also noted Luntz’s published remarks counseling swing-state Republicans on what to say about Iraq and homeland security.
Looks like the letter had an impact. Although MSNBC did not respond to Brock, a spokeswoman for the network told HOH late Wednesday that the network has decided "not to go with Frank for the debate." In fact, MSNBC won’t conduct polling at all now, she said.
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