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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 05:54 AM
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Why isn't more being made of the Eisenhower and Buchanan endorsements of
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 05:54 AM by saracat
Kerry? I think they are noteworthy.I wonder what Bayh thinks as she has been whoring for Bush.And imagine a joint endorsement by the Reagans. Patti and Ron, John and David Eisenhower and Julie Nixon Eisenhower, and what about Tricia? Such a conference would be really fun!
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 05:56 AM
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1. when did buchanan endorse kerry?
I thought he was undecided
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:47 AM
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21. He has made it pretty clear that his vote will be an ABB vote.
I thought he said he is voting Constitutional Party. He's made his unhappiness with Bush quite evident.

But I think he'll fall over dead before he would endorse Kerry.

Hi, I'm blondeatlast, and I STILL love the McLaughlin Group. Never misss it!

:hi:

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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 05:57 AM
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2. Buchanon is the guy who still insists Richard Nixon
was an honorable man. Not much of an endorsement...'course he did win a few votes and we need everything we can get.
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Quetzal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 05:57 AM
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3. Did Buchanan really say that he was going to vote for Kerry?
When I was in NYC, he said on the radio that even though he disagreed with many of Bush's policies, he was probably going to vote for him anyway.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 05:57 AM
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4. Buchanan endorsed KERRY?
Which Buchanan - Edgar?

Not last night on Tweety he didn't.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 05:58 AM
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5. I'm not aware of a Buchanan endorsement
He has praised Kerry and attacked Bush, but Patty Buke is still mostly with Bush on the domestic issues.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 06:00 AM
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6. Please search DU. They said he endorsed him yesterday.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 06:12 AM
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8. the poster got it wrong,it wasn't an endorsement
he was saying kerry was right on iraq. but he isn't endorsing him and he said even though bush is wrong on iraq and other foreign policy he will vote for bush because of the supreme court appointments.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 06:28 AM
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11. But neither the media or the Campaign is making much of the
Eisenhower endorsement? Why not?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 06:43 AM
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12. agree, it should be made into bigger news but
it's because they want bush to win so they don't report much positive stuff on kerry. the day before kerry was endorsed by a newspaper from the place Bush's ranch is at and they didn't make big news out of that either.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:32 AM
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36. Haven't you been observing the Amerikan Coreporate TV Pravda these last 4
years?

The Republican son of a famous and well-beloved ex-Republican President publicly and loudly endorsing Kerry is NOT suitable material for Corporate TV Pravda.

Now, if he had properly endorsed his EMPEROR, instead of going against THE PARTY and being a traitor to the Empire, then he would be permitted to Pravda coverage.

Media-wise there is very little substantive difference between our Bushevik Pravda and Soviet Pravda, except ours dissembles and diverts more efficiently and with better marketing slogans

(don't forget prettier and more blow-dried Pravda Whores, we kick the damned Soviets' asses on that one!)

Now I have to vomit.

:puke:
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 06:07 AM
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7. Here's the DU thread about Buchanan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=921793

Not quite an endorsement of Kerry, more like a condemnation of bush. Still, "Politics Makes Strange Bedfellows" is in effect, so I wouldn't be half surprised to see Pat Buchanan in the Kerry camp before November 2. If he is, then it confirms damn near everything we've been saying about the split between paleo- and neo-conservatives.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 06:16 AM
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9. Pat Buchanan has not endorsed Kerry
& will not endorse Kerry.

Buchanan was against the war, & has been cheering Kerry on, as he has criticized Bush & the war.

But Buchanan would be more likely to vote for the Constitution Party, if he does not vote for Bush.

As far as the rest of them, don t count on them. They all keep a pretty low profile, except for Ron Reagan.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 06:23 AM
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10. I know .It was a wish conference. It would be great though wouldn't it?
I like to picture repugs nashing their teeth!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:07 AM
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13. Why Would It Be Great For A Declared Homophobe And Anti-semite To Endorse
Kerry?


He would have supported the Iraq invasion if there were Jews and gays to be killed there...

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:19 AM
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14. Sorry .I meant the repug royalty would be neat.
John and David ,Julie, Patti and Ron and Tricia!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:24 AM
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15. John Eisenhower's Endorsement Is Great...
If Ike was alive today Republicans would call him a RINO....
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:53 AM
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24. Thank you. I was beginning to think our folks had already
sampled the Kool-Aid!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:52 AM
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23. No self-respecting Democrat should have any interest in
Buchanan's endorsement.

:puke:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:51 AM
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22. He has said as much on "McLaughlin Group,"
although he has made it clear that his vote may very well be a protest/ABB vote.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:29 AM
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16. Buchanan did NOT endorse Kerry
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 07:29 AM by npincus
The Buchanan piece is at: http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan14.html

He gave a fair assessment that John Kerry is finally on the right track about Iraq, speaking the truth, and as a result the Bushies are going for the jugular and attacking his patriotism. Buchanan's most compelling point was at the end:

"So, America is going to find out what the candidate they call "the Frenchman" is made of. And, frankly, we should, before we go to the polls. Stop the whining. Let's get it on."


It's NOT an endorsement, but as close as we may ever get.


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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:31 AM
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17. Wow... We Can't Claim The .05% Buchanan Got In 00
What shall we do?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:35 AM
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18. BuWAhAAAA!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:40 AM
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19. His Campaign Collapsed In 00
It shows that Pukes are more pragmatic than Dems...


If Nader got .05% we wouldn't be in this mess now...
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:42 AM
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20. A Buchanan endorsement could only help
peel off Conservatives who don't like Bush but were going to hold their nose and vote for him anyway- perhaps they would stay home on Nov. 2. And, it might challenge Republicans soft on Bush to re-examine their choice.

This election may be so close, I wouldn't turn my nose up at this endorsement if it could throw even one (net) vote our way.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:56 AM
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25. But it ain't gonna happen. B's vote will probably be ABB (Constitutional
Party) but sure as hell not for Kerry.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:59 AM
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26. The Constitutional Party Is Scary...
They make the Pukes look sane...
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Mike L Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:21 AM
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27. Buchanan has been all over Kerry since the 1971 "troops raped, cut off
ears, etc" statement was played by the Swift Liars. Buchanan worked closely with Nixon and John O'Neill to try to discredit Kerry back then. I think he had flashbacks and now equally hates Bush and Kerry.

I would also guess he votes for the Constitution Party guy.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:24 AM
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28. His "America First" Foreign Policy Is Not Much Better Than AWOL's
nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:18 AM
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33. Hitler Youth--all growed up, true.
Fortunately, they are less relevant than even Nader.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:25 AM
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29. PAT BUCHANAN endorsed KERRY? WTF? Is this true
Did he actually come out and endorse Kerry?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:24 AM
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34. Not even close. To paraphrase:
He basically said that Kerry had finally sized up the situation in Iraq (in the NYU speech) and that that was a strength he had over Bunny.

He did "endorse" Kerry's stance on the issue. He came nowhere close to endorsing Kerry as a presidential candidate.

More's the better, IMHO. The day we start courting folks like Buchanan is the day this proud yellow dogs leaves the party for good.

:puke:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:26 AM
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30. Buchanan will vote for *....
At least that is the way I heard him tell it a while ago. For him it is all about abortion and getting a Total Reich Wing supreme court.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:34 AM
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32. Actually on the Daily Show
Pat was pretty disgusted with BushCo and felt his party had been hijacked. He didn't mention who he'd vote for, but he said in his state it didn't matter where his vote went. I took that to mean he was in a solidly blue state. (I think he mentioned Maryland?)
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:26 AM
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31. F*ck the Media. Get the word out yourself.
I keep a running lsit for all my "alleged" republicans and conservatives of every republican/conservative that will not be voting for bush. (those people may not be voting for kerry, but they have made it plain, they will not be voting for bush)
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:25 AM
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35. Becaues he is not Zell Miller!
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:35 AM
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37. The so called Buchanan endorsement is a mistake....
Buchanan has especially gone off the deep end in his anti-Kerryism of late since he's been give a number of extra spots on late nite TV. Evidently he's been propped up especially because of his "twilight spin zone" appeal.

I watch McLaughlin religiously...and Buchanan is extremely outspoken against the war....which is refreshing....but totally against Kerry....because the man simply can't sort through his ideals. Here's a guy that historically has been for US trade success, possibly through containment...but overall success oriented...so you have to completely say WTF is he for Bush for?#$@&!

In recent nitely shows he's been so bad in terms of his theory that Bush provides us security and peace that it's nauseating. You just gotta believe that there is a Zell thing going on here.

I had been semi-pro Buchanan for quite a while, at least in the sense of hoping that he could be part of a GOP revival...but now that I've seen his true side I say...get him the hell off the McLaughlin group....get him the hell off TV in general...this guy is a complete freekin screwball.

His claim to fame is his so called expertise in history...but now I've come to find that his overall misinterpretation of history is key to how he's warped his ideas. He's a hopeless screwball....end of story.
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