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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:50 PM
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Who's your second choice?
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 04:56 PM by mzmolly
Mine is now John Kerry. I've gone back and fourth. But, I like JK in spite of the fact that I've sparred with some supporters.

How bout you?

Edited to be more *politically correct*
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DeanIsAPitbull Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:51 PM
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1. Mine's Carol Mosley-Braun
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kerryistheanswer Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:52 PM
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2. Kucinich
My heart says Kucinich but mind says either Clark or Dean. I'm not sure - I like and dislike a little about both of them.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:53 PM
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3. You're asking to be flamed in your title...
top 4 or 5 candidates, indeed.

Not ONE vote has been cast.
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pasadenaboy Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:30 PM
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12. he's not saying who the number one is.
He's asking people who they want for #2 after their first choice.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:54 PM
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4. if Kerry is still in the race, then him
but if not Dean

but Clark is still my first pick
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:02 PM
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5. My second is whoever takes the nomination.
I am with Dean. I figure he would be in until the end if someone else got it. I would stay with him until then and would gladly follow behind whoever beat him.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:03 PM
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6. Any of the other candidates
I guess that's the same as whoever gets the nomination like the person above me said.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:04 PM
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7. Clark
I'm really split on Kerry and Clark, I believe both could defeat Bush and both can attract moderates.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:06 PM
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8. Edwards first, Kerry second
next best choice and unencumbered with campaign funds restrictions.
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Marian Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:26 PM
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33. Okay.
Either Kerry or Edwards or Kerry or Edwards.

Thanks for asking.

:hi:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:10 PM
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9. Clark or Edwards
I was strong on Clark for #2, but I can't get any answers about his opinion of the Reagan years. Anybody who thought Reagan was a good President is very questionable in my mind. Which isn't the same thing as voting for him as a matter of course.

Edwards had always been my #2 before that and if I can't get my questions answered, he will be again.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:14 PM
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10. Dean - from a Clark supporter
It used to be Kerry, but his campaign has been terrible. Kerry does not have Clark's amazing biography and pretty good campaign, or Dean's pretty good biography and amazing campaign.

He's second tier.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:36 PM
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14. I Like Carol, But Her Campaign Has Been Non-Existant
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 05:38 PM by AndyTiedye
Second Place, Any Democrat who is not Joe Lieberman.

If Lieberman gets the nomination, we know the fix is in.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:41 PM
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18. she's beating Edwards and DK in national polls
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:30 PM
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11. Whoever gets the nomination.
Dean is my first choice.
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pasadenaboy Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:31 PM
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13. Edwards is number 2
than clark.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:40 PM
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15. John Kerry (Dean supporter)
:kick:
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:41 PM
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16. Clark/Kucinich, Kucinich/Clark
n/t
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:41 PM
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17. Clark (Dean supporter) n/t
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:42 PM
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19. CMB of all the candidates
Harkin is my choice for VP of non candidates.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:43 PM
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20. Dean (Kucinich is first, hope he'll be in play by the PA primary)
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:44 PM
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21. Kerry for me :)
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:47 PM
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22. Kerry (1) ABB (2)
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webkev Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:48 PM
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23. Edwards (nt)
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Progressive420 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:48 PM
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24. Kucinich
Clark is first for me but i really respect Kucinich
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:49 PM
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25. Clark (nt)
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:50 PM
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26. Clark = 1 ABB = 2
I will support Clark until the end of the primary and then support an unknown individual who shall be referred to as "the nominee."
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:53 PM
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27. Kerry -1 ABD - 2 ABB - 3
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 05:54 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:59 PM
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28. Clark
From a Dean Supporter
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:03 PM
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29. Kerry
He's very solid, and demonstrable in his BFEE opposition
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:33 PM
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30. Senator Kerry
He's well qualified for the job.

Julie
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:38 PM
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31. Kerry first, Clark second.
But since this is the "loyalty oath" forum, let me make it clear that I will vote for ANY Democratic candidate running against the smirking frat boy.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:45 PM
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32. Edwards, after Dean (n/t)
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:37 PM
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34. Edwards
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:41 PM
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35. Dean (from a Clark supporter)
I think either of them could "take it to bush" and win, my preference is based on who I want as my President.
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:45 PM
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36. Tie between Edwards and Clark
Used to be just Clark, but Edwards did grow a lot in my view in the last debates.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:48 PM
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37. Not sure today.
Since Kucinich will be in it for all 50 states, I don't have to have a second choice; I get to vote for my first. :bounce:


Who would I want to win if Dennis didn't? That changes on a daily basis. Today, I would want to see CMB.
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eileen from OH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 08:04 PM
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38. Edwards, absolutely. Used to be Clark
you can thank a few Clark supporters here for that, particularly one. Between the turn-every-thread-into-a-Dean-trasher to the tasteless Photoshopped pictures of Dean and it was one-bash-over-the-line-Sweet-Jesus.

For my #1 candidate, I'd take this stuff with a grain of salt cuz I'm focussed on my candidate. But for second choice it does matter. Hell, I can't even listen to Clark without thinking about it and getting pissed/upset all over again.

Even though Dean is my candidate, I've always liked Edwards and will probably throw the few bucks his way that I was gonna toss to Clark.

Fair? Nah, probably not. But that's the way it is for me.

eileen from OH

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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:18 PM
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42. I know what you mean
A lot of the Dean supporters make me feel exactly the same way about Dean with their senseless, baseless, and incessant bashing of Clark. So far, I've been able to overcome my revulsion of their tactics, but I can't guarantee that I will continue to be able to do so.

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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:14 PM
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48. I know what you are saying......
And have said the same thing as recently as yesterday...but I am trying to remember that some of the worst so-called Clark supporters are probably trolls, and in any case do not sem to represent the candidate's own views or tactics.

I am still struggling with the whole Reagan-vote thing, though....
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 08:09 PM
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39. Edwards.
Kucinich/Edwards would be a good team.
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 08:46 PM
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40. John Edwards.. n/t
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Toronto Ron Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 08:52 PM
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41. Edwards & Kerry (tie)
Clark supporter, in case avatar not recognized :silly:
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:26 PM
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43. Gephardt and Edwards (tied for second)
n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:28 PM
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44. I have no second choice
Seriously, nobody comes close enough to Dean to be in second place.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:52 PM
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45. Must be Nader then...right...
n/t
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mikewriter Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:48 PM
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46. Dean number one til the end
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:06 AM
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50. Hi mikewriter!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:11 PM
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47. Clark or Kerry (from a Dean supporter)
I can't decide between the two.

Clark has been a better campaigner.

Kerry has the record and expereince in politics.

I rather like Edwards too--my favorite for Dean's VP.

The only one I really don't care for is Lieberman--but I'd vote for him twice against the Shrub, if I could.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:15 PM
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49. Mine is Clark. He is the next closest thing to Dean.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:09 AM
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51. Kerry
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:21 AM
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52. Actually, my first choice is so large in my mind, I can't see who my #2 is
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:22 AM
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53. Edwards
.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:24 AM
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54. Kucinich is a great guy, he's my number 2 was tied with Kerry n/t
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:27 AM
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55. I didn't think I'd be saying this, but my second choice is now Kerry.
Up until the dirty politics I've seen from Dean and Trippi I always felt #2 for me was Dean. But no more. Of course I'll vote for Dean, if he wins the nomination, but I don't like his tactics and what it implies about his character and judgment.
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iowapeacechief Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 02:45 AM
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56. I'm between Dean and Kerry...
...and drawn more toward Kerry right now. Following is part of what I posted earlier today, on a fast disappearing thread at
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=107152&mesg_id=112653

I welcome constructive comments.



Since last spring I've been supporting Kucinich. I've been fortunate to see much of him and to work with some very fine people in his campaign. I'm not blind to his imperfections, but my admiration for Dennis only increases as he persists and grows stronger despite incredible odds. I am doing all I possibly can to make him The Big Surprise of the Iowa caucuses.

Nevertheless, I could face a quick decision about needing a second choice in my own precinct Monday night. Planning for that possibility has nothing to do with disloyalty or inconsistency and everything to do with responsible participation.

I have not committed to my Number 2 (and might not unless the need appears unavoidable), but I am openly negotiating and reasoning with members of the other campaigns. In these conversations, I've stated clearly that, the Iraq War Resolution, important as it was, is only one of many considerations for me. Although I never agreed with viewing IWR as a litmus test, I argue today that it matters less and less for any of us who would contemplate supporting anyone other than Dennis at some point. Present and future leadership matter more, and values and overall career records are what count in my calculations.

So I've been looking hard at all the candidates, especially Dean and Kerry whom I've listened to and spoken with during the past week.

I remain open to the prospect of joining "antiwar" Dean sometime--I've been giving him (and his formidable movement) the benefit of the doubt for about a year. I should say I give the movement its due. But I don't mind saying I am less satisfied with Dean himself the more I see of him. I do find myself feeling more drawn to Kerry (which is where I'd expected to be before IWR and before Dennis entered the race) and am giving him my most serious second look.

I welcome your help!
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 03:18 AM
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57. Just About Any of Them, Really
There's only two I couldn't vote for, and it doesn't look as though I'll have to make that decision. I've been surpried at just how good some of Gephart's speeches have been, and there's a lot of good to Kerry and Clark. I don't know that much about Edwards, but what I have heard is good.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 03:27 AM
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58. Clark Supporter
# 2 Edwards: he is running a very positive campaign
or
#2 Dean: great campaign; goes after Bush just like Clark


I used to like Kerry, however his campaign has really gone after Clark, & he looks desperate.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 03:54 AM
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59. Edwards...
he was my first choice before Clark entered the race and he remains a very close second with Kerry as third.
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 03:58 AM
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60. Clark
Followed by Gephardt, then Braun
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 04:25 AM
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61. Kucinich ! -nt-
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