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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:46 PM
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Aaron Brown "about five minutes" from showing Cheney lie
he just said he's about five minutes from showing that Cheney's claim never to have met Edwards is a lie. Heheheh.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:46 PM
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1. Was there ever any doubt?
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:50 PM
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2. There's more to come. This is just the easy lie to refute.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:55 PM
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3. I was watching MSNBC. Did he show the proof?
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:56 PM
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4. BFD
I'm sorry but this issue is completely irrelevant. So what if Cheney didn't realize they had sat next to each other once. So what if Cheney remembered and lied about it?

Cheney's lies about WMDs & Iraq/Osama ties are important, whether he had ever been in the same room with Edwards before is not.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:58 PM
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6. I think it's important. People who aren't privy to news other than
the talking heads on Faux News, CNN, etc., aren't aware that this administration lies about small things.
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CrowNotAngelGRL Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:59 PM
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10. I agree
It will make people think about who they're voting for if they can prove that Cheney lied. Bush and Cheney are supposed to be the gospel truth while Kerry and Edwards (mainly Kerry) are the flipfloppers. It will help bigtime I think.

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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:09 AM
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17. You are assuming that the media will make a big deal about this
5 mins on shows like Aaron Brown is all this will get. They will not "Gore" Cheney with this.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:53 AM
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24. You may be right, but I suspect the media will go with whichever
direction the wind blows at this point in the campaign. I think they're (slowly) beginning to see how much support Kerry has. Kerry should clinch the election solidly with the next debate, imo.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:58 PM
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7. The point is to establish a pattern of lies - remember Al Gore?
The right wing would take the smallest issue and blow it up to try to show that Gore was a serial liar - that is what we need to go with Bush and Cheney.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:06 AM
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16. Good point
except, if you haven't noticed, the media has a distinct double standard for these things... the media repeated the "Gore exagerates/lies" talking point ad nauseam but won't call these scumbags out on HUGE lies about, for instance, the non-existant Saddam-Osama ties. DO you really think they will pick up on this utterly trivial lie?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:58 PM
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8. I think the point is - it's another lie that Cheney made
He's trying to look all smarty pants with a zinger that "we've never met until tonight" when you knew in 5 minutes someone would find that picture out there on the net and show how they actually did meet.

I think this was a poor zinger and should be exposed along with the other lies. Pointing out this obvious lie in the media helps crackdown on Cheney's crediblitiy.

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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:00 AM
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11. It's a HUGE FD
Because it's a picture that tells the story that Cheney is a liar. Americans understand things they can SEE. If he lies about something like this, it's quite clear that he has the kind of character that would lie about anything.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:15 AM
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20. Especially since he

had practiced saying it as the sock you punch!

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I Lean Left Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:01 AM
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12. The point is
that if this becomes all everyone talks about in the upcoming days, that Cheney lied to take a personal shot, it will be all anyone remembers of the debate. If that's the case, it's good for us.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:01 AM
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13. it's important
because it was, by far, the biggest slam Cheney delivered. If it were true, it would've been devastating. But it's a lie. And Edwards spent all evening pointing out his lies.

Cheney "won" if you believe what he said. He was forceful, well-spoken, arrogant (which is not a negative to his fans).

If you believe Cheney, he kicked Edwards' ass. But this shows that you can't believe Cheney.
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Pax Argent Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:03 AM
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15. It is a big deal. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Most people are too lazy to research the lies themselves, but if you throw a picture at them they will largely just accept it as reality.

If the newsies play this up it will overshadow most other things he said, real or imagined.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:18 AM
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22. It is important... it lays out a pattern of lying
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:19 AM
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25. And it was UNNECESSARY.
And sloppy. They didn't fact check it.

Which is another nasty thing about this administration.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:22 AM
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23. It's important because it was his really big moment in the
debates; putting down Edwards for his record. If you can only make big points by using lies to emphasize your points, then you are just plainly a liar. Why would he say it at all if it wasn't to put down Edwards?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:58 PM
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5. LOL Brown just said "he's going to regret saying that...it's going to end
up in ads." ROFL.

Smart man, that Aaron Brown.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:59 PM
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9. Which? The "Never Meeting" or the "Never Said it"
Personally they both should be in ads
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:02 AM
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14. you already know what the republican spin on this will be
it's not hard to guess.

they will say meeting edwards was so insignificant that cheney just didn't remember him.
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ninainsf Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:11 AM
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18. It's really unfortunate Edwards did not remind him on stage
That would have totally turned it around.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:13 AM
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19. It was perfect that he didn't
Because he knew it was a lie, and that the evidence would come out immediately. And look how it's spreading; this is devastating to Cheney.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:16 AM
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21. Proabably because Edwards didn't remember either
These people meet hundreds a day on a regular basis.

I still think this is a non-issue, but I hope you guys are right and this lie has "legs". I just don't see the So Called Liberal Media making an issue of this as it might look bad for "Popular War-time President Bush."
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